MO - Megan Meier, 13, Mentally Abused, Commits Suicide

[calidreamin]

LORI DREW!!!!!
LORI DREW!!!!!
LORI DREW!!!!!
LORI DREW!!!!!
LORI DREW!!!!!
LORI DREW!!!!!
LORI DREW!!!!!
:loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser: :loser:
OK now I feel better....

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[Lola]

what a crock!

No charges in MySpace suicide case


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A police report said that a mother from the neighborhood and her 18-year-old employee fabricated a profile for a teenage boy online who pretended to be interested in Megan before he began bullying her. The police report indicates others gained access to the profile, and it is not clear who was sending Meier messages just before her death.

Banas said based on additional interviews, the fake MySpace page was not created by the mother of one of Megan's friends. He said the page was created by the 18-year-old employee, though the mother and her 13-year-old daughter knew about the page. He said he was unable to speak directly with the 18-year-old, whom he said has been hospitalized for psychiatric treatment.

 

[hockeymom]

There you go-Laurie Drew, her "unidentified 18 year old employee" and her daughter dodged a bullet. They have to live with what they have done, but unfortunately so do the Meier's. This one will continue to be tried in the court of public opinion however...

The sad thing is, Laurie Drew will probably never feel real remorse. She will justify her actions by thinking the girl was unstable to begin with.An adult capable of what she did,if she hasn't "got it" by now,never will. Thats ok,what goes around comes around.

 

[nanandjim]

The sad thing is, Laurie Drew will probably never feel real remorse. She will justify her actions by thinking the girl was unstable to begin with.An adult capable of what she did,if she hasn't "got it" by now,never will. Thats ok,what goes around comes around.

What parent would do something like this? How sick, especially when you have children of your own? Would you want someone to do this to your child? It's one thing to have children bully one another. They have fully matured. It's quite another to have grown adults instigate something like this. I just don't understand why this woman wouldn't be charged. I think that her photo or her name should be posted in every window in that town. If they can't do that, post Megan's photo with a little story about how she killed herself due to Internet bullying and to ask Laurie Drew who bullied her.

 

[reb]

this is not going to be what people want to hear, but here goes (for what it's worth):

from what i understand about the case, there should not be charges filed. i'm very sorry about the girl's death, but you just cannot blame everybody and everything in a situation where a person (even a young person) commits suicide.

parents need to teach their children to toughen up a bit and also to NOT get lost in the world of myspace. it is a decieving thing to get involved with, and parents need to TEACH THEIR CHILDREN to be SKEPTICAL, to not believe that everything is what it looks like on there (or anywhere else in life!!).. and to spend their developmental years working on REAL live relationsips instead of myspace 'friendships'. and guess what-- people are going to say mean things to you in life. people are going to upset you. people are going to be jerks and you are going to meet sociopaths and sick people. you are going to have 'falling outs' with people. people are going to lie to you and be deceitful and cruel. YES in some cases, people should be held accountable for their actions... but you can't sue everyone for every little thing. if someone is on the verge of committing suicide, then obviously things are already bad enough that they are probably going to do it anyway. if a few comments (especially, from a fantasy 'character' someone made up on the internet) pushes a person over the edge.. then they are probably already AT the edge and should be already getting some help. it's not necessarily the person's fault (or, rather,, the *idiot's* fault- in this case).
i have a hard time calling this 'mental' or 'verbal abuse'. mental/verbal abuse is when a parent tells their child, you're a worthless piece of crap. or a husband tells their wife, you're a stupid b*tch. or a boss tells their employee, you're a stupid idiot. but if someone says 'the world would be a better place without you' and it makes you go kill yourself... then, there is something wrong their already. parents need to teach their kids- HELLO--- if something is upsetting you,, just turn the damn computer OFF!! no one's forcing you to sit there and read the stuff!!! and just because someone says something, doesn't make it true.
now the other relationships i mentioned, those are a bit different. also,, REPEATED verbal lashing is what makes it more a situation of abuse, when it settles into an established pattern. but when anyone (i.e., a stranger) says anything negative to someone else-- now that's mental abuse? esp when they have the freedom to walk away and ignore it? i don't think so.
this being said, if someone sent a specific THREAT-- i.e., i know where you live and i'm going to kill you-- then YES that is breaking the law and those people should be prosecuted. but is someone says 'you're bad, you suck and i don't like you'-- is that breaking the law? of course not. if an adult is masquerading as a minor and says it-- is that illegal? not as far as i know. stupid, but not illegal. this is different than masquerading as a minor and being a sexual predator.

yes i understand that teenagers are unbearably sensitive (i was the same way)... but is it going to get to the point where everyone is walking on eggshells around everyone, lest they be held liable for hurting someone's feelings too much they commit suicide?? and yes of course this moron should have had better things to do with her time. but if we prosecute every person who does a thing like this,, well.... all i can say is,, welcome to a serious police state. basically that is legislating morality. i wish we COULD prosecute every dimwit who pretends to be someone else and says mean things to someone. but can you imagine, what point we would have to get to, in order to do that? we might as well install police monitors inside everyone's brains, and in their homes.
bottom line.. what these guys did was wrong, and puzzling... and obviously they are very stupid people with nothing better to do. but is she liable in this girl's suicide? no (although she certainly didn't help matters). obviously megan had very serious issues going on already.

however.... i wish megan's parents had been more aware of what was going on and gotten the support of counsellors or school officials, if the harrassment from this girl (and her mother) had been happening for a while.

 

[Paladin]

I'm curious what this "psychiatric treatment" is all about for the 18 year old. I wonder if she's getting a dose of her own medicine from the citizens of St. Louis because it's well known who she is.

 

[sleuthin4fun]

what a crock!

No charges in MySpace suicide case


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A police report said that a mother from the neighborhood and her 18-year-old employee fabricated a profile for a teenage boy online who pretended to be interested in Megan before he began bullying her. The police report indicates others gained access to the profile, and it is not clear who was sending Meier messages just before her death.

Banas said based on additional interviews, the fake MySpace page was not created by the mother of one of Megan's friends. He said the page was created by the 18-year-old employee, though the mother and her 13-year-old daughter knew about the page. He said he was unable to speak directly with the 18-year-old, whom he said has been hospitalized for psychiatric treatment.

OK it does not matter to me if Lori Drew was actually responsible for creating this page or not. I believe that she knew about this and encouraged it. Not only did she change the lives of the Meier family but, what kind of damage did her lack of judgement do to her own daughter as well as the 18 year old employee.

 

[philamena]

Drew and her cohorts may not have charges against them but they'll pay one day for what they did. Karma is a bi*ch!

And the public won't forget the Drew and what she did!

 

[STEADFAST]

Banas said based on additional interviews, the fake MySpace page was not created by the mother of one of Megan's friends. He said the page was created by the 18-year-old employee, though the mother and her 13-year-old daughter knew about the page. He said he was unable to speak directly with the 18-year-old, whom he said has been hospitalized for psychiatric treatment.

Now when would it ever enter this 18-year-old employee's mind to create a MySpace page to find out what Megan was saying about her boss's daughter? Could it have been when Ms. Drew asked her to create it? Lori Drew may well not have known how to create a MySpace page herself. I don't know how either.

 

[southcitymom]

this is not going to be what people want to hear, but here goes (for what it's worth):

from what i understand about the case, there should not be charges filed. i'm very sorry about the girl's death, but you just cannot blame everybody and everything in a situation where a person (even a young person) commits suicide.

parents need to teach their children to toughen up a bit and also to NOT get lost in the world of myspace. it is a decieving thing to get involved with, and parents need to TEACH THEIR CHILDREN to be SKEPTICAL, to not believe that everything is what it looks like on there (or anywhere else in life!!).. and to spend their developmental years working on REAL live relationsips instead of myspace 'friendships'. and guess what-- people are going to say mean things to you in life. people are going to upset you. people are going to be jerks and you are going to meet sociopaths and sick people. you are going to have 'falling outs' with people. people are going to lie to you and be deceitful and cruel. YES in some cases, people should be held accountable for their actions... but you can't sue everyone for every little thing. if someone is on the verge of committing suicide, then obviously things are already bad enough that they are probably going to do it anyway. if a few comments (especially, from a fantasy 'character' someone made up on the internet) pushes a person over the edge.. then they are probably already AT the edge and should be already getting some help. it's not necessarily the person's fault (or, rather,, the *idiot's* fault- in this case).
i have a hard time calling this 'mental' or 'verbal abuse'. mental/verbal abuse is when a parent tells their child, you're a worthless piece of crap. or a husband tells their wife, you're a stupid b*tch. or a boss tells their employee, you're a stupid idiot. but if someone says 'the world would be a better place without you' and it makes you go kill yourself... then, there is something wrong their already. parents need to teach their kids- HELLO--- if something is upsetting you,, just turn the damn computer OFF!! no one's forcing you to sit there and read the stuff!!! and just because someone says something, doesn't make it true.
now the other relationships i mentioned, those are a bit different. also,, REPEATED verbal lashing is what makes it more a situation of abuse, when it settles into an established pattern. but when anyone (i.e., a stranger) says anything negative to someone else-- now that's mental abuse? esp when they have the freedom to walk away and ignore it? i don't think so.
this being said, if someone sent a specific THREAT-- i.e., i know where you live and i'm going to kill you-- then YES that is breaking the law and those people should be prosecuted. but is someone says 'you're bad, you suck and i don't like you'-- is that breaking the law? of course not. if an adult is masquerading as a minor and says it-- is that illegal? not as far as i know. stupid, but not illegal. this is different than masquerading as a minor and being a sexual predator.

yes i understand that teenagers are unbearably sensitive (i was the same way)... but is it going to get to the point where everyone is walking on eggshells around everyone, lest they be held liable for hurting someone's feelings too much they commit suicide?? and yes of course this moron should have had better things to do with her time. but if we prosecute every person who does a thing like this,, well.... all i can say is,, welcome to a serious police state. basically that is legislating morality. i wish we COULD prosecute every dimwit who pretends to be someone else and says mean things to someone. but can you imagine, what point we would have to get to, in order to do that? we might as well install police monitors inside everyone's brains, and in their homes.
bottom line.. what these guys did was wrong, and puzzling... and obviously they are very stupid people with nothing better to do. but is she liable in this girl's suicide? no (although she certainly didn't help matters). obviously megan had very serious issues going on already.

however.... i wish megan's parents had been more aware of what was going on and gotten the support of counsellors or school officials, if the harrassment from this girl (and her mother) had been happening for a while.

I agree with a lot of this post, reb.

I think it's sad and sick that this adult was so enmeshed in her juvenile children's social games, but I don't think it was criminal.

 

[Lola]

Now when would it ever enter this 18-year-old employee's mind to create a MySpace page to find out what Megan was saying about her boss's daughter? Could it have been when Ms. Drew asked her to create it? .

EXACTLY!

 

[angelmom]

Reb, I do agree with a lot of your post. However, I really thought that LORI DREW had crossed some sort of legal line (the moral one was way back there in the dust...see that speck? Yeah, that's it.) when she deliberately engaged a minor in online conversation that turned sexual, while pretending to be another minor.

If a man had done this to Megan and it had ended in her rape or sexual abuse, or even her running away to be with him thinking he was another teenaged boy, we would be calling for his head. And I think he would have been arrested for it.

We all need to work at teaching our kids not to put too much stock in the internet. It is a tool that can be incredibly helpful or horrifically abused, like almost anything.

 

[Texana]

Reb, I do agree with a lot of your post. However, I really thought that LORI DREW had crossed some sort of legal line (the moral one was way back there in the dust...see that speck? Yeah, that's it.) when she deliberately engaged a minor in online conversation that turned sexual, while pretending to be another minor.

If a man had done this to Megan and it had ended in her rape or sexual abuse, or even her running away to be with him thinking he was another teenaged boy, we would be calling for his head. And I think he would have been arrested for it.

We all need to work at teaching our kids not to put too much stock in the internet. It is a tool that can be incredibly helpful or horrifically abused, like almost anything.

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Agreed.

 

[believe09]

Reb, I do agree with a lot of your post. However, I really thought that LORI DREW had crossed some sort of legal line (the moral one was way back there in the dust...see that speck? Yeah, that's it.) when she deliberately engaged a minor in online conversation that turned sexual, while pretending to be another minor.

If a man had done this to Megan and it had ended in her rape or sexual abuse, or even her running away to be with him thinking he was another teenaged boy, we would be calling for his head. And I think he would have been arrested for it.

We all need to work at teaching our kids not to put too much stock in the internet. It is a tool that can be incredibly helpful or horrifically abused, like almost anything.

Agreed angelmom. I also agree with reb in part that parents should get back to the "sticks and stones" thing, but having been a teenage girl let me tell you it is all highs and lows when it comes to emotions...almost in a psychotic way. That is what makes the bullying done by other girls so brutal-they know how to hit you so it really, really screws with you. The fact that an adult is involved in the picture by giving others the power to hurt this vulnerable child is what makes this scenario very serious. If it had been Lori's husband who was running the show, I bet there would have been some kind of charge filed because of the nature of the chats.

 

[golfmom]

http://meganhaditcoming.blogspot.com/2007/12/im-lori-drew.html

Anyone who's been following this story might want to take a look at this. This is supposed to be Lori Drew's blog. I'm almost done reading ...

 

[IdahoMom]

http://meganhaditcoming.blogspot.com/2007/12/im-lori-drew.html

Anyone who's been following this story might want to take a look at this. This is supposed to be Lori Drew's blog. I'm almost done reading ...

She is a sick woman. She inserted herself right in the middle of her daughter's teenage drama and it escalated from there. Scary person.

 

[KatK]

Now when would it ever enter this 18-year-old employee's mind to create a MySpace page to find out what Megan was saying about her boss's daughter? Could it have been when Ms. Drew asked her to create it? Lori Drew may well not have known how to create a MySpace page herself. I don't know how either.

If you know how to make an e-mail account, you can figure out how to make a MySpace account. It isn't that much different then an e-mail account or a message board membership.

 

[golfmom]

After really reading it carefully, I'm so sickened. This woman just has no clue. There's just not one ounce of contrition. She completely lacks the understanding that no action by Megan or her parents justify what she did. She is still trying to prove that "Megan had it coming."

 

[KatK]

This is what I am posting to the confessional/Unmasking. I hope people continue to clamor to have Lori Drew charged. We mustn't let this go!

That's some nerve, asking for mercy for your daughter, after what you did to Megan! You will never, ever escape the returning negative energy you sent out with your actions, it will find you. You have tied yourself to Megan for the rest of your life, and sadly you have also tied your daughter, your husband, your 18 year old employee, that other child, and anyone else who participated in the MySpace exchanges to Death. This isn't glitter and lollipops. Your life is marred by your own actions. I firmly believe that even if you don't feel guilty, the Cosmos itself will take the price of what you did out of your life, out of any Joy you might have had, any prosperity you all might have found will be much less due to those actions.

 

[nanandjim]

http://meganhaditcoming.blogspot.com/2007/12/im-lori-drew.html

Anyone who's been following this story might want to take a look at this. This is supposed to be Lori Drew's blog. I'm almost done reading ...

You have to be kidding. Anyone adult who would even create a website about a kid who committed suicide (especially due to harassment) shows just how sick and depraved his/her thinking is. Sad and pathetic.

ETA: I won't even go to read at this site. The title says it all to me.