MO - Megan Meier, 13, Mentally Abused, Commits Suicide

  • #261
I surely respect and get your point. I am no apologist for Ms. Drew who will, as we all will, reap what she sows.

I think a lot of people are interested in the "who deserved it because of their actions" way of looking at violence and brutality. But that way of looking at things doesn't interest me because it will never lead to the end of violence and brutality - something that interests me very much!

There will always be someone (or some group) who thinks the persecuted (whoever they may be at the time) bring such woes upon themselves. This will never change the fact that cruelty met with cruelty solves nothing and, in fact, perpetuates the chain of pain.

I agree with you that continuing violence doesn't help anyone and only perpetuates the problem. The only thing I would add is that it does indicate the level of anger, frustration, and empathy for the victim people in the community feel--particularly when legally, the Drews will walk away with no legal consequences for their actions.

I don't believe the Drews should suffer physical violence because that is always wrong. But if they are shunned by the community, if they have no business clientele, if they feel despised by everyone around them...perhaps they will begin to feel a little bit of what Megan experienced.
 
  • #262
I agree with you that continuing violence doesn't help anyone and only perpetuates the problem. The only thing I would add is that it does indicate the level of anger, frustration, and empathy for the victim people in the community feel--particularly when legally, the Drews will walk away with no legal consequences for their actions.

I don't believe the Drews should suffer physical violence because that is always wrong. But if they are shunned by the community, if they have no business clientele, if they feel despised by everyone around them...perhaps they will begin to feel a little bit of what Megan experienced.

Your point, a good one, is taken.

But do people who feel shunned and abhorred by society often grow towards a deeper, more-loving understanding of their fellow human beings? Or is it more likely that such shunning and rage just teaches and reinforces what these people obviously already believe - that it's a dog-eat-dog-world where other humans are out to get them?

Brutality comes in many forms and fashions, not always physical, and some would say that emotional and social brutalization is the cruelest form of violence. Surely Megan knew that.

I know it seems a lot to ask for gentle compassion to be shown towards someone like Ms. Drew (or others who do terrible things), but I think it's worth pointing out that two wrongs don't ever make a right. Why would those of us heartbroken by the emotional cruelty aimed at Megan be secretly or not so secretly supportive when such cruelty is aimed at someone else?

I posit that it's because we see Megan as innocent and Drew as guilty. But thinking we know who deserves to be treated poorly and who doesn't will never assist us in stopping human cruelty towards one another. Which, as I said before, is more important to me than distinctions of victim and perp.

I pray daily for Megan's family and the Drew family to have peace, healing and growth from this horrible event.
 
  • #263
You know in reading about this more and more I am beginning to pity Lori Drew. They really is something emotionally not right about a grown woman who behaves in this way. I guess I feel sorry not for Lori as an adult but, as a child. What awful thing maybe happened in her youth to cause her to be almost narsassistic. It is almost as if she is emotionally broken.
 
  • #264
You know in reading about this more and more I am beginning to pity Lori Drew. They really is something emotionally not right about a grown woman who behaves in this way. I guess I feel sorry not for Lori as an adult but, as a child. What awful thing maybe happened in her youth to cause her to be almost narsassistic. It is almost as if she is emotionally broken.

Broken? Or, born a psychopath? They can be quite narcassistic.
 
  • #265
....... It is almost as if she is emotionally broken.

No "almost as if" as far as I am concerned - Lori Drew is definitely emotionally broken. And to KatK's point - so are people who suffer from personality disorders.
 
  • #266
Broken? Or, born a psychopath? They can be quite narcassistic.


I don't know there is just really something wrong with her.
 
  • #267
so was it ever determined if this is really her site?
 
  • #268
so was it ever determined if this is really her site?

That's a good question, reb. I don't have the answer - just wanted to say HI.:)
 
  • #269
Hi SCM! ;)
 
  • #270
so was it ever determined if this is really her site?

Don't think it has been determined. The "person" posting as Lori has not posted today.
 
  • #271
The thing that bothers me about that site is it could easily be written by anyone who's been following this story on the news.
 
  • #272
The thing that bothers me about that site is it could easily be written by anyone who's been following this story on the news.

Doesn't seem too logical for a prankster to go on and plead to leave her daughter alone tho.
 
  • #273
The thing that bothers me about that site is it could easily be written by anyone who's been following this story on the news.

I truelly can't believe this can be Lori Drew. Nobody can be this stupid.
If it isn't her ,she should be trying to get to the bottom of it,and shut down the blog.
If it is her,she is extremely sick.
 
  • #274
I truelly can't believe this can be Lori Drew. Nobody can be this stupid.
If it isn't her ,she should be trying to get to the bottom of it,and shut down the blog.
If it is her,she is extremely sick.

Don't you think it is a little odd that their attorney has been so forthcoming regarding so many things, yet there has been no statement regarding the blog? Like, "my clients do not condone it." or "Anyone speculating that this is Lori Drew is insane." You know, attorney spin. I find that pretty suspicious.
 
  • #275
Don't you think it is a little odd that their attorney has been so forthcoming regarding so many things, yet there has been no statement regarding the blog? Like, "my clients do not condone it." or "Anyone speculating that this is Lori Drew is insane." You know, attorney spin. I find that pretty suspicious.

Thats the only reason why I wonder if it is her,because I would think her atty.would be all over this if it wasn't.
Whoever it is,needs serious help.
 
  • #276
so was it ever determined if this is really her site?
I've heard reports that it was - but I don't have any real link. Something about a post on the meganhaditcoming site being identical to one on Lori Drew's acknowledged public site or some such. But it could be a hoax. You'd think they'd have said so if so - why would Lori Drew take the abuse when she can just say it's not her?
 
  • #277
Your point, a good one, is taken.

But do people who feel shunned and abhorred by society often grow towards a deeper, more-loving understanding of their fellow human beings? Or is it more likely that such shunning and rage just teaches and reinforces what these people obviously already believe - that it's a dog-eat-dog-world where other humans are out to get them?.....
They believed that before, when people were nice and normal to them - so I don't think being nice to them will 'fix' them. The world treated them well, plenty of success too - and that didn't make them good people, maybe the opposite will wake them up.

But they can fix it anytime they like. Apologize and show sincere remorse - and 99% of it will go away.
 
  • #278
Your point, a good one, is taken.

But do people who feel shunned and abhorred by society often grow towards a deeper, more-loving understanding of their fellow human beings? Or is it more likely that such shunning and rage just teaches and reinforces what these people obviously already believe - that it's a dog-eat-dog-world where other humans are out to get them?

Brutality comes in many forms and fashions, not always physical, and some would say that emotional and social brutalization is the cruelest form of violence. Surely Megan knew that.
<snip>

It completely depends on the person. I was shunned, beaten, and verballly/emotionally abused by my peers as a teen. I don't think it's a dog eat dog world, and I am not bent on "getting mine, before others take it from me, even if I have to use force". ;) :twocents:
 
  • #279
The woman linked to a fake MySpace profile of a 16-year-old boy created to start an Internet relationship with Megan Meier, the Missouri teen who hanged herself after receiving hurtful messages, is now believed to be the victim of a cyber-bullying impersonator herself.

And the online harassment laws that were passed after Meier's death last year now may be used to help the middle-aged woman, who many believe was responsible for the 13-year-old girl's suicide.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315684,00.html
 
  • #280
The woman linked to a fake MySpace profile of a 16-year-old boy created to start an Internet relationship with Megan Meier, the Missouri teen who hanged herself after receiving hurtful messages, is now believed to be the victim of a cyber-bullying impersonator herself.

And the online harassment laws that were passed after Meier's death last year now may be used to help the middle-aged woman, who many believe was responsible for the 13-year-old girl's suicide.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315684,00.html

Another huge ironic moment. She gets the benefit of the law that her actions inspired. :doh:
 

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