MO - Off-duty officer (Katlyn Alix) shot dead by on-duty officer (Nathaniel Hendren), Jan 2019

[Falcon500]

I place no suspicion in the fact that the deceased and the male officer rode together two nights before. If St Louis operates the way the rest of the country you work either four or five days a week. They apparently prefer two man cars at night in the more dangerous beats. When you come in for work at night you have no idea who you are riding with until you hear the Sgt announce it.

Had some nefarious incident happened when they were working together she/he had two days to report it. My point is that if your captain wants two man cars at night then eventually you are going to ride with everyone even some twice a week.

As an aside there is nothing more boring than to ride with a partner.,You lose a lot of your alertness and with the chit chat going on sometimes you lose track of the radio.

 

[GordianKnot]

As an aside there is nothing more boring than to ride with a partner.,You lose a lot of your alertness and with the chit chat going on sometimes you lose track of the radio.

RSFF: Well, I suppose nothing livens up a dull shift w/ a partner like an exhilarating game of RRR, so there's that.

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Isn't it some sort of a crime to pour a full bottle of beer down the disposal?

 

[GordianKnot]

Isn't it some sort of a crime to pour a full bottle of beer down the disposal?

Hey, as long as you're not carrying it around in your pocket, I think you're good.

 

[PrairieWind]

Isn't it some sort of a crime to pour a full bottle of beer down the disposal?

That is funny. On a serious note, I wondered "why take the beer if he wasn't going to drink it?" Then I wondered, when did he pour it out? Before or AFTER she was shot?

 

[mickey2942]

That is funny. On a serious note, I wondered "why take the beer if he wasn't going to drink it?" Then I wondered, when did he pour it out? Before or AFTER she was shot?

It is a lame excuse for breaking policy. "He gave me a beer, but I ONLY had a few sips.". And then, I poured it all down the sink.

Whatever.

Off topic, on beer, I got my Valentine a Microbrew pass, he gets a free beer at every taproom in Montana. So, we can cruise around and find some new places this year. No pouring beer down the sink in this house!

 

[GordianKnot]

Off topic, on beer, I got my Valentine a Microbrew pass, he gets a free beer at every taproom in Montana. So, we can cruise around and find some new places this year. No pouring beer down the sink in this house!

SFF: mickey, IANAG (I Am Not A Guy) but I'm pretty sure this makes you every man's dream Valentine....what a clever gift idea!!!!

Back on topic to your other point: I'm not buying the "didn't inhale" version the partner offered up r/t the beer.

"A few sips," we are told. Sure. Roger that. In the British sense, I mean.

Anybody ever met a dude who "sips" beer?

 

[Cobra Jet]

The whole reason to come up with a cover story is to hide something much worst. What could be worst then the Russian Roulette story as it admits to shooting the victim deliberately. Is an affair worst then playing a game where you deliberately shoot a friend, NO?

This would be like a teenager “borrowing” his parents’ car to go purchase some cigarettes and when he gets caught he tells his parents he used the car for a drive by shooting. To me either this story is true, partially true or its being used to cover something much worst.

 

[McFluffy]

St. Louis police logs offer insight into final days, hours before Officer Alix's death




Snipped from that article:

The newly released documents show on Jan. 22, Officers Alix and Hendren were on patrol together during the 11 p.m. to 7 a.m. overnight shift.

They handled six routine calls between 12:30 a.m. and 4:36 a.m. All but two were in their assigned area of the city's second patrol district.

To answer the question about KA husband's shift - all overnight shifts end at 7am - all the districts.

 

[Indy Anna]

I place no suspicion in the fact that the deceased and the male officer rode together two nights before. If St Louis operates the way the rest of the country you work either four or five days a week. They apparently prefer two man cars at night in the more dangerous beats. When you come in for work at night you have no idea who you are riding with until you hear the Sgt announce it.

Had some nefarious incident happened when they were working together she/he had two days to report it. My point is that if your captain wants two man cars at night then eventually you are going to ride with everyone even some twice a week.

As an aside there is nothing more boring than to ride with a partner.,You lose a lot of your alertness and with the chit chat going on sometimes you lose track of the radio.

Thank you for that info, Falcon. I'd been wondering whether their assigned partners were static or they rotated. This does make sense, so the fact they were partnered together 2 nights before he shot and killed her might be just coincidence.

However, the last shift KA worked she "happened" to be partnered with NH. She could have been partnered with anyone else on her final shift, but it was with NH. Coincidence, or is it relevant to what happened?

IMO, I still think KA was lured to the apartment under false pretenses. JMO

 

[Falcon500]

Thank you for that info, Falcon. I'd been wondering whether their assigned partners were static or they rotated. This does make sense, so the fact they were partnered together 2 nights before he shot and killed her might be just coincidence.

However, the last shift KA worked she "happened" to be partnered with NH. She could have been partnered with anyone else on her final shift, but it was with NH. Coincidence, or is it relevant to what happened?

IMO, I still think KA was lured to the apartment under false pretenses. JMO

I had previously written my best guess why she had gone to the apartment but it was deleted by the moderators because it wasn’t victim friendly. I accept that since it’s the policy of the website. I can tell you that nothing happened on that night shift two days earlier that would have caused her death. People are reading way too much into this case with their conspiracy theories. As I said on day one this is a rather easy case.

 

[SoCalDavidS]

People are reading way too much into this case with their conspiracy theories. As I said on day one this is a rather easy case.

So do you think he was properly charged? Should there be any charges against his partner?

 

[doublestop]

I can tell you that nothing happened on that night shift two days earlier that would have caused her death.

How do you know that as a fact? I suspect that they are unrelated, but it's opinion, not fact.

 

[GordianKnot]

*DBM

 

[Seattle1]

Jan 30, 2019

Charging documents say Alix and Officer Nathaniel Hendren were taking turns pulling the trigger of a gun loaded with one bullet while pointing it at each other when Alix was shot in the chest. Hendren has been charged with involuntary manslaughter.

The incident took place Thursday at an apartment where Alix was off-duty and with two on-duty male officers.

In a letter to Police Chief John Hayden and Public Safety Director Jimmie Edwards that was obtained by CBS affiliate KMOV-TV, Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner said urine and breath tests were performed on the male officers, but not a blood test. She wrote that the way the testing was performed "appears to be an obstructionist tactic."
[...]
At a press conference Tuesday, Edwards defended the St. Louis Police Department and the chief's actions.

"Our officers are not obstructionist," he said, KMOV-TV reported.

"We have to be careful and we have to be fair and we should not vilify the entire department based on what has transpired here," he said. He said it's the role of the police department, not the prosecutors, to process a crime scene.

St, Louis police accused of "obstructionist tactic" in probe of cop's Russian roulette death

 

[Seattle1]

Thank you for that info, Falcon. I'd been wondering whether their assigned partners were static or they rotated. This does make sense, so the fact they were partnered together 2 nights before he shot and killed her might be just coincidence.

However, the last shift KA worked she "happened" to be partnered with NH. She could have been partnered with anyone else on her final shift, but it was with NH. Coincidence, or is it relevant to what happened?

IMO, I still think KA was lured to the apartment under false pretenses. JMO

Reportedly, it was the norm for KA to meet up with her colleagues at the precinct on her days off.

Also reported was that KA, NH, and PR had each been texting each other throughout the evening. Their were also plans for the 3 partners to meet that evening-- but it's not known why the location was changed to NH apartment --located outside of their patrol area.

While I don't believe KA was lured to her friends apartment, I do believe going there cost KA her life. MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Jan 31, 2019

"The way how everything went down, I don’t like it," Alix's mother, Aimee Chadwick, told CBS affiliate KMOV in an interview. "I think there’s more answers. We need more answers. She loved her job. Even on her days off, she would go visit all her friends down there because like I guess when you're a police officer, [you have] that close bond with everyone."

Two St. Louis Police officers were allegedly under the influence of alcohol while on duty when their colleague was shot and killed during a Russian roulette-like game

Officer Nathanial Hendren, who is accused of shooting and killing 24-year-old Katlyn Alix, and officer Patrick Riordan, allegedly violated a police administration regulation that states, "No employee shall report for duty or remain on duty with an alcohol concentration of 0.04 or greater," according to a employee misconduct report filed by the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department on Jan. 24.

The report also states that "no employee shall consume alcohol while on duty and/or engage in City business," which "includes a prohibition on alcohol consumption during the entire work period," including lunch and dinner breaks, according to the report.

The report does not detail the blood alcohol content of either officer.
St. Louis police officers were allegedly under the influence of alcohol when Russian roulette-like game killed colleague

ETA: There was an employee misconduct report filed by SLMPD Jan 24, 2019. I recall it also cited by the SLP Dispatch, but has anybody here read it? TIA

 

[PrairieWind]

So do you think he was properly charged? Should there be any charges against his partner?

I can say that based upon what we now know, and what I suspect, that he has been properly charged. And as much as I think that the other officer acted very inappropriately, I don't see that he did anything criminal, and as such, should not be charged. I do, however, believe he should be fired.

 

[GarAndTeed]

Jan 31, 2019

ETA: There was an employee misconduct report filed by SLMPD Jan 24, 2019. I recall it also cited by the SLP Dispatch, but has anybody here read it? TIA

No, @Seattle1 , and I haven't been able to find it anywhere, either. Anyone else?

 

[Seattle1]

I can say that based upon what we now know, and what I suspect, that he has been properly charged. And as much as I think that the other officer acted very inappropriately, I don't see that he did anything criminal, and as such, should not be charged. I do, however, believe he should be fired.

PR's lawyer already admitted his client consumed alcohol while on duty, and I'd like to believe that violation would be enough to cost a 2 year rookie his job (I'm told that won't happen). I'm hoping there may also be an obstruction of justice charge for the partner when investigation is complete. MOO