MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #11

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  • #302
It doesn't seem likely that someone known would come along and abduct all three women in my opinion. If someone(s) had a vendetta with one of the women, then more than likely they would have waited to get that person alone rather than run the risk of trying to abduct three women. I also feel that someone(s) known to them would have taken the money from the purses. It really seems that this was a crime of opportunity committed by someone(s) that wasn't known to the three victims. Ether someone(s) was watching the house and knew that Sherrel and Suzie lived there alone, or something that night triggered the perpetrator(s) to launch a home invasion on the home.

Nevertheless, from what we know, the perp(s) definitely waited for all three women to be in bed putting them in the most vulnerable position as far as protecting themselves. This makes me think that it was a planned crime, and robbery certainly was not a motive.
 
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It doesn't seem likely that someone knowen would come along and abduct all three women in my opinion. If someone(s) had a vendetta with one of the women, then more than likely they would have waited to get that person alone rather than run the risk of trying to abduct three women. I also feel that someone(s) knowen to them would have taken the money from the purses. It really seems that this was a crime of opportunity committed by someone(s) that wasn't known to the three victims. Ether someone(s) was watching the house and knew that Sherrel and Suzie lived there alone, or something that night triggered the perpetrator(s) to launch a home invasion on the home.

Nevertheless, from what we know, the perp(s) definitely waited for all three women to be in bed putting them in the most vulnerable position as far as protecting themselves. This makes me think that it was a planned crime, and robbery certainly was not a motive.
My feelings exactly. MOO
 
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It doesn't seem likely that someone known would come along and abduct all three women in my opinion. If someone(s) had a vendetta with one of the women, then more than likely they would have waited to get that person alone rather than run the risk of trying to abduct three women. I also feel that someone(s) known to them would have taken the money from the purses. It really seems that this was a crime of opportunity committed by someone(s) that wasn't known to the three victims. Ether someone(s) was watching the house and knew that Sherrel and Suzie lived there alone, or something that night triggered the perpetrator(s) to launch a home invasion on the home.

Nevertheless, from what we know, the perp(s) definitely waited for all three women to be in bed putting them in the most vulnerable position as far as protecting themselves. This makes me think that it was a planned crime, and robbery certainly was not a motive.
Naw....I think this crime was committed by someone who knew the women, or was acquainted by another. It may have been revenge, passion, or heat of the moment. But too much circumstantial evidence, points to someone who knew the women, not a random individual. Even all of the agencies investigating this crime, felt so.
 
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I definitely agree the perps knew the women. The FBI and SPD statements at the 20 year mark suggest the same.

It would be nice to know who stood the most to lose if Sherrill and Suzie weren't kept quiet in the months leading up to the graverobbing trial.

There's some interesting things surrounding Sherrill's finances too. The house, the waterbed (Montgomery Ward credit card), the car. All at once. The potential "silent partner" aspect. It's a bit suspicious, even if she could do it. But she also had her own car in addition to Suzie's car to pay off. Plus home renovations she was getting and a chain smoker with a child to support. While I'm sure Suzie chipped in with her own job, she was also getting ready to go to beauty school and pay for that.

According to this site: Auto Loan & Lease Statistics, in early 1992, rates on car loans were roughly 10%. That's a hefty payment for someone making roughly 26-30k a year.

Sherrill's debt was so big Bartt had to declare death to get the creditors off his own back. Let's not also forget all the creditors that went after Sherrill because Don Levitt was "in hiding." That is often overlooked too. What kind of effect would that have on her rates/credit score?

It's time to get serious about considering if she had a second income. Or at least some kind of supplemental income. And where did that come from? Follow the money.
 
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Has Mike ever answered why he called Suzie and her mother and friend "🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬" when he wished they were dead?

Mike's own words on Websleuths as a "verified user": "I considered Suzie a friend."

So why were they 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 who needed to die? Yeah yeah "cop hurt my little feelings and I was frustrated"

Have any of you ever had a friend that you wished were dead? That ought to be questioned some. Because it comes across like there was pent up anger there towards Suzie. And why? Just good ole fashion misogyny? Anger about her being a "snitch" to him and his buddies messing with dead skulls and their teeth? Or that Suzie (and by proximity, Sherrill) knew about other dealings this group got into?

Someone putting skulls in a children's playground is definitely a precursor to a psycopathic behavior of abducting and killing. Maybe not Mike...but maybe Joe or Dusty's crowd. They had a direct link to Garrison. It's not like they ran with choir boys.
 
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I definitely agree the perps knew the women. The FBI and SPD statements at the 20 year mark suggest the same.

It would be nice to know who stood the most to lose if Sherrill and Suzie weren't kept quiet in the months leading up to the graverobbing trial.

There's some interesting things surrounding Sherrill's finances too. The house, the waterbed (Montgomery Ward credit card), the car. All at once. The potential "silent partner" aspect. It's a bit suspicious, even if she could do it. But she also had her own car in addition to Suzie's car to pay off. Plus home renovations she was getting and a chain smoker with a child to support. While I'm sure Suzie chipped in with her own job, she was also getting ready to go to beauty school and pay for that.

According to this site: Auto Loan & Lease Statistics, in early 1992, rates on car loans were roughly 10%. That's a hefty payment for someone making roughly 26-30k a year.

Sherrill's debt was so big Bartt had to declare death to get the creditors off his own back. Let's not also forget all the creditors that went after Sherrill because Don Levitt was "in hiding." That is often overlooked too. What kind of effect would that have on her rates/credit score?

It's time to get serious about considering if she had a second income. Or at least some kind of supplemental income. And where did that come from? Follow the money.
I like your post!!

I'd like to add.....that I recall the Springfield News-Leader reporting at some point, one of the Detectives, or the Chief stating that "Sherrill had made some Bad Choices". One of them directly stated this. But then they "Mike Dropped it" and didn't expound.

What were those bad choices?

Drugs?
Borrowed money from the wrong person/people (Mob), didn't keep up on her debt, or take the consequences seriously?
Got involved with someone who had ties to Organized Crime of some sort, MC's or the Mob, and may be that's exactly why the Ozark Organized Crime Task Force was involved (or What ever it was called)?
 
  • #308
Has Mike ever answered why he called Suzie and her mother and friend "🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬" when he wished they were dead?

Mike's own words on Websleuths as a "verified user": "I considered Suzie a friend."

So why were they 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 who needed to die? Yeah yeah "cop hurt my little feelings and I was frustrated"

Have any of you ever had a friend that you wished were dead? That ought to be questioned some. Because it comes across like there was pent up anger there towards Suzie. And why? Just good ole fashion misogyny? Anger about her being a "snitch" to him and his buddies messing with dead skulls and their teeth? Or that Suzie (and by proximity, Sherrill) knew about other dealings this group got into?

Someone putting skulls in a children's playground is definitely a precursor to a psycopathic behavior of abducting and killing. Maybe not Mike...but maybe Joe or Dusty's crowd. They had a direct link to Garrison. It's not like they ran with choir boys.
I agree with you and your post as well in that, I really feel, as police did and apparently still do, that this crime was committed by someone who knew one or more of the women.
And as you've also stated, and I agree with, I think it was never intended to include Stacy.
Wrong place at the wrong time.
But, I do think it was probably intended for at least the Mother and Daughter possibly too, based on the events of the night that basically forced Susie to return home..........but unfortunately with Stacy too. (The unplanned part) Just my thoughts. :)
 
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Scooby, it was Mid-States Organized Crime Information Center (MOCIC). Aug. 3rd 1992 Newsleader article references it.

They mention they spent 880 hours with MSHP studying it. It was early August 1992.
 
  • #310
Grand Jury 3 in 1994 footage is located on the CONUS website if anyone is interested in it...

Conus > Home just type in "levitt streeter mccall" into the little search box.

I think these men have been outed on here before but now we can talk about them <modsnip: WS has Rules for a reason.>

Garrison is obviously one of the three. The other two are associates of his. Not new information but the footage of the farm is interesting.

There was also new footage released recently at KY3 for the 27 year mark: Three Missing Women: A look back at the case 27 years later
 
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Grand Jury 3 in 1994 footage is located on the CONUS website if anyone is interested in it...

Conus > Home just type in "levitt streeter mccall" into the little search box.

I think these men have been outed on here before but now we can talk about them without Websleuths acting like we don't have links.

Garrison is obviously one of the three. The other two are associates of his. Not new information but the footage of the farm is interesting.

There was also new footage released recently at KY3 for the 27 year mark: Three Missing Women: A look back at the case 27 years later
Nice!!! Excellent Find!!! <modsnip: quoted post was modsnipped>. :)
 
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Grand Jury 3 in 1994 footage is located on the CONUS website if anyone is interested in it...

Conus > Home just type in "levitt streeter mccall" into the little search box.

I think these men have been outed on here before <modsnip: WS has Rules for a reason>.

Garrison is obviously one of the three. The other two are associates of his. Not new information but the footage of the farm is interesting.

There was also new footage released recently at KY3 for the 27 year mark: Three Missing Women: A look back at the case 27 years later
Well we know who suspect number one is. Now who are the other two? It is interesting that the other two, are the same age.....if I saw the ages correctly.
Are these the two missing concrete workers may be? Just guessing, but......
 
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Scooby, it was Mid-States Organized Crime Information Center (MOCIC). Aug. 3rd 1992 Newsleader article references it.

They mention they spent 880 hours with MSHP studying it. It was early August 1992.
Interesting. You'd think with spending 880 hours investigating it, that they would have come up with some useful information. May be it just wasn't enough to take things further. ?
 
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Interesting. You'd think with spending 880 hours investigating it, that they would have come up with some useful information. May be it just wasn't enough to take things further. ?
Garrison is many things and a liar is one of them. He could be more dangerous than people know. He might have liked his power trip.
 
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I agree with you and your post as well in that, I really feel, as police did and apparently still do, that this crime was committed by someone who knew one or more of the women.
And as you've also stated, and I agree with, I think it was never intended to include Stacy.
Wrong place at the wrong time.
But, I do think it was probably intended for at least the Mother and Daughter possibly too, based on the events of the night that basically forced Susie to return home..........but unfortunately with Stacy too. (The unplanned part) Just my thoughts. :)

I thought the police once said it was a stranger than it wasn't. I've wavered between it being a random stalker or someone that knew one or more of the women.
 
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I definitely agree the perps knew the women. The FBI and SPD statements at the 20 year mark suggest the same.

It would be nice to know who stood the most to lose if Sherrill and Suzie weren't kept quiet in the months leading up to the graverobbing trial.

There's some interesting things surrounding Sherrill's finances too. The house, the waterbed (Montgomery Ward credit card), the car. All at once. The potential "silent partner" aspect. It's a bit suspicious, even if she could do it. But she also had her own car in addition to Suzie's car to pay off. Plus home renovations she was getting and a chain smoker with a child to support. While I'm sure Suzie chipped in with her own job, she was also getting ready to go to beauty school and pay for that.

According to this site: Auto Loan & Lease Statistics, in early 1992, rates on car loans were roughly 10%. That's a hefty payment for someone making roughly 26-30k a year.

Sherrill's debt was so big Bartt had to declare death to get the creditors off his own back. Let's not also forget all the creditors that went after Sherrill because Don Levitt was "in hiding." That is often overlooked too. What kind of effect would that have on her rates/credit score?

It's time to get serious about considering if she had a second income. Or at least some kind of supplemental income. And where did that come from? Follow the money.

Did debt change? Or does it differ from state to state? Do you know if Sherrill was in debt? She was able to buy a house. Her credit after disappearing or dying would be dealt with by an executor of her will or taken by the bank and auctioned off (or sold by them idk). Married or unmarried people you live with often have your social and they can ruin your credit. You can rebuild it. I refused to pay for anything my son's dad took out in my name. If he used my credit and and didn't come through but ran off with a playstation or couch, I was like nope -not paying. I offered his organs up in a cooler. I didn't need a shady second job that you are implying. I had to start from scratch. If she had already been making car payments or anything that shows you are reliable, that stuff isn't always affected by a deadbeat ex.
 
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Has Mike ever answered why he called Suzie and her mother and friend "🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬" when he wished they were dead?

Mike's own words on Websleuths as a "verified user": "I considered Suzie a friend."

So why were they 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 who needed to die? Yeah yeah "cop hurt my little feelings and I was frustrated"

Have any of you ever had a friend that you wished were dead? That ought to be questioned some. Because it comes across like there was pent up anger there towards Suzie. And why? Just good ole fashion misogyny? Anger about her being a "snitch" to him and his buddies messing with dead skulls and their teeth? Or that Suzie (and by proximity, Sherrill) knew about other dealings this group got into?

Someone putting skulls in a children's playground is definitely a precursor to a psycopathic behavior of abducting and killing. Maybe not Mike...but maybe Joe or Dusty's crowd. They had a direct link to Garrison. It's not like they ran with choir boys.

Joe snitched and vandalized the grave. He is still alive. Suzie wasn't there. Garrison was a drug dealer, how does anyone know he wasn't selling pot to other kids? He's a rapist, younger girls wanting to smoke up with their female friends would give him a scary in. He would have had access to vulnerable young women that would be even less likely to report a crime if they were doing something illegal. All he would have to do is get a few girls to buy from him pass on the info to their friends.
 
  • #318
Joe snitched and vandalized the grave. He is still alive. Suzie wasn't there. Garrison was a drug dealer, how does anyone know he wasn't selling pot to other kids? He's a rapist, younger girls wanting to smoke up with their female friends would give him a scary in. He would have had access to vulnerable young women that would be even less likely to report a crime if they were doing something illegal. All he would have to do is get a few girls to buy from him pass on the info to their friends.
The ones still alive could have done it or are being threatened by those who did.
 
  • #319
Interesting. You'd think with spending 880 hours investigating it, that they would have come up with some useful information. May be it just wasn't enough to take things further. ?
Not everything is reported to the news
 
  • #320
The ones still alive could have done it or are being threatened by those who did.

It might be mutually assured destruction, or coming forward with information could implicate a family member like a parent. A threat that works for 27 years has too go very deep be a conspiracy and stay effective. I'm trying to think of anything on that scale besides maybe Jimmy Hoffa.
 
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