MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #11

[asyousay]

Multiple sources besides Garrison led them to these digs. Wasn't just him.

Are we now saying that all the cops are wrong? Just curious.

Judges signed off on the GJ regarding this informant. Not Janelle/her friends. Not Cox.

Grave robbers, Dusty's gf, and Garrison and his cohorts convinced a judge though. Many things not reported to public, remember that.

well nothing has obviously come from these leads though or we wouldn’t all be here on a Friday night discussing it 28 years on


Garrison said

Garrison told police a friend had confessed to killing the three women during a drunken party. He told police information unknown to the public that led investigators to serve three search warrants at two sites in western Webster County; that they would find the women’s bodies and clues about their abduction and deaths. He also said a moss green van believed used to take the women would be found about 12 miles away, south of Fordland

So no van found and no bodies which makes him unreliable I would say.

 

[chestnut&bypass]

I also wonder about Stacy's dating life.
Is it possible Stacy thought because Suzie had more freedom that she could meet up with someone at her house? IDK this is just a thought.

Cherry, I can certainly see your logic here, but consider this....the girls had permission, including Stacy, to stay in Branson in a hotel. If a free pass was needed, the girls gave up a damn good one in my opinion.

Just my .02¢, MOO

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

well nothing has obviously come from these leads though or we wouldn’t all be here on a Friday night discussing it 28 years on


Garrison said




So no van found and no bodies which makes him unreliable I would say.

Yet lots of info even judges agreed shouldn't be told to the public...

And how do you know it's still not valuable just because no bodies were found? They only looked in one small area. And maybe Garrison didn't want to fully incriminate himself (hell he even says this!)

And they DID find piece of a possible van in Cassville dig. (also gag ordered)

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Don't know but they got gag orders signed off by a judge. Definitely something to it.

And here we are wasting time talking about Janelle when you have a legit criminal/rapist/gang member in Garrison dictating dig locations multiple times.

You haven't proven that Garrison was in a Gang!

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Yet lots of info even judges agreed shouldn't be told to the public...

And how do you know it's still not valuable just because no bodies were found? They only looked in one small area. And maybe Garrison didn't want to fully incriminate himself (hell he even says this!)

And they DID find piece of a possible van in Cassville dig. (also gag ordered)

He will? What.....did you talk to Garrison?

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Yet lots of info even judges agreed shouldn't be told to the public...

And how do you know it's still not valuable just because no bodies were found? They only looked in one small area. And maybe Garrison didn't want to fully incriminate himself (hell he even says this!)

And they DID find piece of a possible van in Cassville dig. (also gag ordered)

They found pieces of a cut up green vehicle. Could have been any vehicle. Just saying.

 

[cherrymeg]

Cherry, I can certainly see your logic here, but consider this....the girls had permission, including Stacy, to stay in Branson in a hotel. If a free pass was needed, the girls gave up a damn good one in my opinion.

Just my .02¢, MOO

You are right. I always wondered why risk taking two cars back to Suzie's house. That seemed weird. All these people were on the road drunk (I don't know if they were at all) or walking around drunk, it was risky to drive one car let alone two. Red cars are more likely to be pulled over. Maybe this teenage logic lol. Also leaving Janelle's seemed odd.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

They found pieces of a cut up green vehicle. Could have been any vehicle. Just saying.

Then why the gag order?

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

You haven't proven that Garrison was in a Gang!

Yes. I will not post certain things publicly.

But do you concede he has direct ties to Robb clan? A sort of "gang?"

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Yes, there was a local clan, connected directly to the women via grave robbers, that were linked to missing persons cases prior to 1992 and after (2002 Ricky/Thenia Evans case....Evans is related to Robb)... Garrison tied to this clan. Dusty's girlfriend's roommate even had Garrison and Tim Robb over to their apartment around the time of the disappearance.

That story is not confirmed by any credible sources. That was Rusty Shaffer's story, that Garrison and Robb were over at his apartment when detectives supposedly stopped to talk to "Rusty" about an unrelated issue, and while they had "Rusty" in the hallway, they supposedly ask "Rusty" if he knew that the guys in his apartment were suspects in the 3MW crime.

Now, with that said, does anyone in their right mind, actually think this happend?
Why would the police "Tip their hand" as to who their suspects were, to some stranger.

Yea.....I didn't think so either. Bogus Story!

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Yes. I will not post certain things publicly.

But do you concede he has direct ties to Robb clan? A sort of "gang?"

What I can concede as it pertains to Garrison is, Police had enough information that they received from Garrison, that they said they hadn't released to the public, that a Judge felt held enough probable cause to sign off on a search warrant.
Garrison supposedly told them things that only the police knew. At least that's what they said.

 

[cherrymeg]

Then why the gag order?

It could have been because they thought Garrison had info on other murders. It could have been because they felt some of his info might have been important even if it wasn't for the springfield three. They might have worried that questions asked by a GJ could result in retaliation. It could have also brought up details that could help solve a crime and letting people know would hurt a case.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Then why the gag order?

It may have just been a matter of standard investigative procedure and nothing more. May be they just wanted to try to protect the integrity of their case.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

What I can concede as it pertains to Garrison is, Police had enough information that they received from Garrison, that they said they hadn't released to the public, that a Judge felt held enough probable cause to sign off on a search warrant.
Garrison supposedly told them things that only the police knew. At least that's what they said.

Agreed.

So why are we all writing him off? How do we know police aren't looking for a missing piece of info?

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

It may have just been a matter of standard investigative procedure and nothing more. May be they just wanted to try to protect the integrity of their case.

The utilization of gag orders is interesting. It does not happen like it does in this case.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

That story is not confirmed by any credible sources. That was Rusty Shaffer's story, that Garrison and Robb were over at his apartment when detectives supposedly stopped to talk to "Rusty" about an unrelated issue, and while they had "Rusty" in the hallway, they supposedly ask "Rusty" if he knew that the guys in his apartment were suspects in the 3MW crime.

Now, with that said, does anyone in their right mind, actually think this happend?
Why would the police "Tip their hand" as to who their suspects were, to some stranger.

Yea.....I didn't think so either. Bogus Story!

Rusty claimed was part of the Grand Jury. He's pretty darn credible. His link to Garrison is why we even know about him.

You think he's lying about Tim Robb coming over to his house?

Ms. Clay and Mike both verified Rusty lived with Garrison.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Rusty claimed was part of the Grand Jury. He's pretty darn credible. His link to Garrison is why we even know about him.

You think he's lying about Tim Robb coming over to his house?

Ms. Clay and Mike both verified Rusty lived with Garrison.

I just can't wrap my head around the Detectives tipping their hand to Rusty, and telling him that they were suspects. The last thing investigators would want to do is let the Suspects, know that they're suspects. So that's where faith in the Rusty story starts and ends. Rusty can tell you that he was part of the Grand Jury Inquiry, but Rusty has told some whoppers over the years.
So it's because of these reasons, that I just can't put much credit in "Rusty"

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Rusty claimed was part of the Grand Jury. He's pretty darn credible. His link to Garrison is why we even know about him.

You think he's lying about Tim Robb coming over to his house?

Ms. Clay and Mike both verified Rusty lived with Garrison.

Ok, Clay has said that "Clay" barely knew Garrison and may be bought some weed from him once.
Not exactly a chummy relationship
And Clay has more than changed stories several times.
Even you said that much.
So why trust "Anything" that Clay says? We shouldn't just piece meal trust to the things we think he's being honest with.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

I just can't wrap my head around the Detectives tipping their hand to Rusty, and telling him that they were suspects. The last thing investigators would want to do is let the Suspects, know that they're suspects. So that's where faith in the Rusty story starts and ends. Rusty can tell you that he was part of the Grand Jury Inquiry, but Rusty has told some whoppers over the years.
So it's because of these reasons, that I just can't put much credit in "Rusty"

But he did say he was at a party with Mike, Dusty, AND Suzie! So he does have a connection that is important to all of this.

 

[HmmWhoKnows]

Ok, Clay has said that "Clay" barely knew Garrison and may be bought some weed from him once.
Not exactly a chummy relationship

And you believe him at face-value? Dusty dated Garrison's girlfriend's daughter.