MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #11

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  • #61
I think he has everything to do with this case.
He had a conviction for a home invasion robbery that was overturned on appeal but I mean it happened he did it
he went to prison for kidnapping which he falsely imprisoned in 11 year old boy in his basement but not after putting his head in a bag tying his wrists and ankles picking him up by one arm one leg and dumping his head into a cooler of water... and a rape at gun point.
unless the date of The Disappearance doesn't match up with when he was in Missouri and he was living in Oklahoma as a Time, I feel like at the very least attempt to rule him out.
Attempt to rule him in first.

There's been dozens of cold case crimes that have been solved that were committed by capable criminals in the Ozarks since then. I don't see a connection.

These exercises are pointless and just throw more monkey wrenches into an already-convoluted case. JMO
 
  • #62
I think he has everything to do with this case.
He had a conviction for a home invasion robbery that was overturned on appeal but I mean it happened he did it
he went to prison for kidnapping which he falsely imprisoned in 11 year old boy in his basement but not after putting his head in a bag tying his wrists and ankles picking him up by one arm one leg and dumping his head into a cooler of water... and a rape at gun point.
unless the date of The Disappearance doesn't match up with when he was in Missouri and he was living in Oklahoma as a Time, I feel like at the very least attempt to rule him out.

I posted this guy's arrest for the simple fact that he may have been in the area when the women disappeared in '92. I'm a firm believer that the Springfield 3 case had multiple perpetrators.

Most likely there's no connection, however I'm to the point where I think in some cases, anything is possible regarding connections between suspects.
 
  • #63
No new insight is needed. Only a little bit of work on the ground following up with a few simple leads gets you in the ballpark of what probably happened.

Cops were interested in Steve Garrison after two failed leads. They still are interested. Nobody asks why? They just make assumptions.

There's a direct link from the men who robbed the graves to Garrison. Fact. Did you properly investigate all three men? Dusty. Mike. Joe. All three? Thoroughly? All POIs...to this day (according to cops and the ex-DA).

I don't think grave robbing while high equals involvement with making the three women disappear. I think time was spent investigating Dusty and Mike and that focus blinded LE to other suspects. Garrison was around and possibly saw both Suzie and Stacy at parties, or when Suzie was with Dusty.
The clip that shows Stacy modeling for a wedding dress commercial makes me think of stalkers that don't know their victims but see them, hear them talk or think a smile is directed at them and create a fantasy about a woman who couldn't pick them out of a line up. There could have been someone like Garrison on the fringe of their social circle that watched at least one of the girls, and waited to get them alone or isolated. Stalkers don't need to be people you date or have criminal records they don't even have to talk to you. Suzie worked at a movie theatre, Sherrill was hairdresser , Stacy modeled. all of these jobs involved other people and those other people seeing them. If people paid too much attention or any of the three women complained a person bothering them that should be looked into. People don't always know they have a stalker. Events in my own life made me think of this.
 
  • #64
There’s so much information about the case of the Springfield Three,that it’s hard to know what’s true and what isn’t.
As websleuths ,we never get the full details of a case, and hard work and avid research needs to be done to uncover even the smallest of details, but none the less are part of a bigger puzzle piece.

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I’m always hearing theories on the porch light,now I do believe it’s a clue,however I would direct my attention to the far left of the front of the house, a window is open that leads to sherill’s bedroom and the screen for the window is propped up against the wall of the house...possibly the entry point?

Another thing I’d like to point out and not trying to point any fingers, is that it seems to me that janelle and her boyfriend Michael control almost the entire narrative of this case..
From where they were that night to the time they left.their are some conflicting reports about what time janelle called suzie’s Home.
Some say 8:00am others say 7:30 am while a video documentary has her saying she got up around 9:00am...she has suzie’s phone number, their planning on going to a water park together, so although janelle has a closer bond to Stacy McCall it would be safe to say that janelle and suzie were cool with each other.

Reports say that even janelle’s mother already had a place set for them to stay the night...
So why does janelle refer to Susie streeter as the other girl in this YouTube video?
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2:01 minutes in..seems strange..
Not mention she and her bf were the first on the seen,she’d never been there, BF sweeps evidence away, janelle knocks, no one answers so she goes in? Yells out their names and assumed that maybe they went out for breakfast or something like that, and yet all three of their cars are sitting in the driveway..
And just before leaving she gets two obscene calls... IDK it sounds a little suspect...

Then they leave come back hours later their still not there and yet the police are not notified...

Janelle and Mike's actions have never made sense to me. Calling Suzie "the other girl" is weird because she was supposedly friends with her. She was too at home to have never been to the Streeter/Levitt house. One thing that has always bothered me is that if you believed your friends were asleep and then you walk into the house and realize they aren't home which might be annoying since you had plans, there is no reason would assume Suzie and Stacy were with Sherrill. Sherrill could have been asleep stumping into her home is intrusive. Answering the phone that morning is weird. What if Sherrill had clients calling her there? If you answer a phone in someone else's house you better be prepared to take a message. Better yet let if go to voicemail. If Sherrill and Suzie were out separately they could have left messages for each other. Really though if you don't hear your friends on the answering machine you should not pick up the phone.
 
  • #65
No one said graverobbing = involvement.

Did you properly investigate all three grave robbers?

They were suspects not because of the vandalism but because they had a connection to the women. And ultimately there may have been people surrounding them that were worried that if Suzie went to court she could have opened up, not about the robbing, but something bigger than the two bit criminal teenagers.

Do you know every single person Dusty, Mike, and Joe knew? Where was Joe when Dusty and Mike shunned him? Who was his crowd? Who did Dusty and Mike interact with in those months leading up to the disappearance? Dusty is one of a handful of people that knew the Delmar house (they’ve been there only two months). Think about it.
 
  • #66
Going to lay this all out in one post...

To make one person disappear without a trace is very, very hard to pull off. To make three women disappear? It takes a coordinated effort. SPD/FBI both agree with this. Fact.

With that known, there must have been a plan, at least partially, before striking. If we can agree there, then that would make the Delmar house (Sherrill and/or Suzie) a target of some kind.

If you read between the lines, the cops don't like the "lone perp" theory. They did their job and interviewed Cox but ultimately left it alone. It was KY3/Crime shows that loved the Cox angle for TV viewership purposes.

District Attorney Darrell Moore quote: "theory was that they expected Suzie as the one who turned them in...that raised an issue, and if they got mad at her, did they get sufficiently mad at her to try and kidnap her and kill her"

"Some of do not believe they should be cleared"

If the belief is true that the suspects knew the perp, or at least one of the perp (FBI/SPD suggest this, Nigel and other close friends suggest this, etc.).

Now shifting gears here, who had the criminal network, the land, the strength and ability to shut someone up and keep others in the know silent? (FBI suggests that's how the crime stays unsolved). And we couple that with the fact that the police were very interested in a biker rapist who hung regularly at local strip clubs/biker clubs. Involved in the same gang as one of the grave robber's girlfriend's father.

Lots of smoke here for there not to be some kind of fire. But even if that doesn't bring you in a bit. Mike Clay says Joe Riedel regularly stole things from houses (you can find the post on this forum). So Joe has no problem breaking into people's homes. Mike claims Joe was in Illinois, but there's no way of knowing he was on 6/7/92. Then you have detective Thomas clinging to Garrison. So much so that they want to talk to him in a hotel. Then he escapes... easily from cop control? Hmmmmm....that isn't fishy to anyone?

Fact: Mike and Dusty knew Garrison enough to buy weed from him. I am assuming Joe possibly knew him, at least by proximity. Dusty's girlfriend at the time's mother dated Garrison. About as close of a connection as it gets.

As Hurricane said on here, if Garrison was still someone detective Doug Thomas clung to for three failed leads, there's something to his story about knowing/having a friend capable of committing this crime. Someone had to have land and a criminal network and some help.

Remember there is a gag order on the items retrieved from one of the Garrison-led digs. There's something there. Something that would blow some of this case wide open if it were released.

That's why I believe the angle of grave robbers/Garrison/criminal network with blind luck of LE bungling the investigation from the start is where the time and energy needs to be focused.

Things needed to pull this off: plan to execute, plan to keep the silence. Who can do that? Someone with land, someone with ability/power to control the investigation, and someone with a motive to keep Suzie from going to court and possibly opening up about something she wasn't supposed to talk about--according to criminal undercurrent linked to Garrison/grave robbers.

The women were killed because silence had to be ensured. And the same perps keep that silence now by threats to ones who know the truth. Famed FBI Profiler James Wright: "Secondary players may fear going to police because they think the primary culprit would retaliate."

That's my overall theory. I encourage all to take Ms. McCall's advice: deal only in facts.
 
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  • #67
Going to lay this all out in one post...

To make one person disappear without a trace is very, very hard to pull off. To make three women disappear? It takes a coordinated effort. SPD/FBI both agree with this. Fact.

With that known, there must have been a plan, at least partially, before striking. If we can agree there, then that would make the Delmar house (Sherrill and/or Suzie) a target of some kind.

If you read between the lines, the cops don't like the "lone perp" theory. They did their job and interviewed Cox but ultimately left it alone. It was KY3/Crime shows that loved the Cox angle for TV viewership purposes.

District Attorney Darrell Moore quote: "theory was that they expected Suzie as the one who turned them in...that raised an issue, and if they got mad at her, did they get sufficiently mad at her to try and kidnap her and kill her"

"Some of do not believe they should be cleared"

If the belief is true that the suspects knew the perp, or at least one of the perp (FBI/SPD suggest this, Nigel and other close friends suggest this, etc.).

Now shifting gears here, who had the criminal network, the land, the strength and ability to shut someone up and keep others in the know silent? (FBI suggests that's how the crime stays unsolved). And we couple that with the fact that the police were very interested in a biker rapist who hung regularly at local strip clubs/biker clubs. Involved in the same gang as one of the grave robber's girlfriend's father.

Lots of smoke here for there not to be some kind of fire. But even if that doesn't bring you in a bit. Mike Clay says Joe Riedel regularly stole things from houses (you can find the post on this forum). So Joe has no problem breaking into people's homes. Mike claims Joe was in Illinois, but there's no way of knowing he was on 6/7/92. Then you have detective Thomas clinging to Garrison. So much so that they want to talk to him in a hotel. Then he escapes... easily from cop control? Hmmmmm....that isn't fishy to anyone?

Fact: Mike and Dusty knew Garrison enough to buy weed from him. I am assuming Joe possibly knew him, at least by proximity. Dusty's girlfriend at the time's mother dated Garrison. About as close of a connection as it gets.

As Hurricane said on here, if Garrison was still someone detective Doug Thomas clung to for three failed leads, there's something to his story about knowing/having a friend capable of committing this crime. Someone had to have land and a criminal network and some help.

Remember there is a gag order on the items retrieved from one of the Garrison-led digs. There's something there. Something that would blow some of this case wide open if it were released.

That's why I believe the angle of grave robbers/Garrison/criminal network with blind luck of LE bungling the investigation from the start is where the time and energy needs to be focused.

Things needed to pull this off: plan to execute, plan to keep the silence. Who can do that? Someone with land, someone with ability/power to control the investigation, and someone with a motive to keep Suzie from going to court and possibly opening up about something she wasn't supposed to talk about--according to criminal undercurrent linked to Garrison/grave robbers.

The women were killed because silence had to be ensured. And the same perps keep that silence now by threats to ones who know the truth. Famed FBI Profiler James Wright: "Secondary players may fear going to police because they think the primary culprit would retaliate."

That's my overall theory. I encourage all to take Ms. McCall's advice: deal only in facts.
Good Post!!!
 
  • #68
The only problem with Suzie being the target is why involve the other two women? That increases risks and problems with victim control x 2 if not 200. Suzie could have been isolated at any other time. Why risk that Sherrill didn't pack a gun? MOO, of course
 
  • #69
To me, and in my opinion only, the target had to have started out as Sherrill. It was her house. She was alone. Her daughter was NOT expected home that night/morning much less accompanied by a friend. Anyone following the girls had no way of knowing, with three cars parked in front, just how many people were on the inside unless they were already there.
 
  • #70
To me, and in my opinion only, the target had to have started out as Sherrill. It was her house. She was alone. Her daughter was NOT expected home that night/morning much less accompanied by a friend. Anyone following the girls had no way of knowing, with three cars parked in front, just how many people were on the inside unless they were already there.

I think the targets might have been Suzie and Stacy. This is just one theory. With people visiting for graduation that means they had contact with a number of strangers or relatives of friends. Those people would have possibly been gone by the time they were reported missing and never thought of as suspects. They were two attractive girls going to parties and maybe some psycho or psychos decided to follow them and lured Sherrill away from the house.
My thing with Sherrill as the target is why attempt kidnapping, rape or murder on a night when police are out, kids are going from one house to the next? It wouldn't be a night to plan a crime. If someone just wanted one women, planning it that night doesn't make sense. I think the kidnapper/s thought about it or had done something like it before but what made them act was an opportunity presenting itself. MOO
 
  • #71
The only problem with Suzie being the target is why involve the other two women? That increases risks and problems with victim control x 2 if not 200. Suzie could have been isolated at any other time. Why risk that Sherrill didn't pack a gun? MOO, of course
No problems at all.

Both women knew something they shouldn’t have.

Murder probably wasn’t the plan until an uncontrollable unknown entered the house with Suzie...Stacy. She’s the reason a pivot was made IMO.

Control was key.
 
  • #72
No problems at all.

Both women knew something they shouldn’t have.

Murder probably wasn’t the plan until an uncontrollable unknown entered the house with Suzie...Stacy. She’s the reason a pivot was made IMO.

Control was key.

Do you have a theory about what they knew? The three of them all being together was kind of random. Suzie and Stacy could have been at one place or separate places. Sherrill could have stayed home but she could have gone out. Suzie and Stacy took separate cars. One set of plans had already fallen through.
 
  • #73
The only problem with Suzie being the target is why involve the other two women? That increases risks and problems with victim control x 2 if not 200. Suzie could have been isolated at any other time. Why risk that Sherrill didn't pack a gun? MOO, of course
Why? Maybe whoever was after Suzie (and I agree this could be a likely possibility) though she had told the others something, making them targets as well.
 
  • #74
I haven't been keeping up with this case recently; maybe someone can answer one question for me. I know that ground-penetrating radar was used at the Cox parking garage; was that technology ever used in the PFI parking lot (which has been the subject of internet speculation/rumors)?
 
  • #75
Why? Maybe whoever was after Suzie (and I agree this could be a likely possibility) though she had told the others something, making them targets as well.

How could they narrow down who she told what to? You could end up killing half the town. If Suzie, Stacy and Sherrill all witnessed something or something was done to them that would make more sense if the murder/kidnapping was to hide a crime. I don't think Stacy was just in the wrong place I think she was a target as well.
 
  • #76
Are we supposed to gloss over the fact that Steve Garrison, a strong POI, and possible player in this case, was left alone with the LEAD DETECTIVE and simply... "escaped?"

Nothing stinks more than that. Of all the SPD bungles in this case, that's the worst one.
 
  • #77
From an earlier post on another thread (for reference)
From September 13, 1995 NewsLeader:

(on 3MW case)
"So investigators and prosecutors did not object to reducing Garrison's $10,000 bail to $2500 so he could post bond and get out of jail, said Darrell Moore, chief assistant county attorney. The thinking, law enforcement sources said, was that Garrison might talk in a different environment."
<snip>
"Garrison was captured 20 days later and jailed without bond. It was nine days after the reported mid-town assault" [the rape he is now imprisoned for]
<snip>
"Police detective Doug Thomas, the primary investigator in the missing women's case, was the officer alone with Garrison when he ran. Thomas would not comment on the escape, other than to say "There's nothing that happens down here every day that we don't have regrets that a different tack might have been taken.
"

So police had Garrison in their hands, hoping he'd talk, and just let him..."escape?" Like...what? Explain how that makes any lick of sense.

Has anyone held a fire to Doug Thomas and SPD over this?

The man primarily in charge of the case. The man who visited Garrison in prison multiple times over. The man who knew him since his stand off with police in 1990, the one who leaned on Garrison for multiple leads and digs has him in custody and lets him escape?
 
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  • #78
To me, and in my opinion only, the target had to have started out as Sherrill. It was her house. She was alone. Her daughter was NOT expected home that night/morning much less accompanied by a friend. Anyone following the girls had no way of knowing, with three cars parked in front, just how many people were on the inside unless they were already there.
The target may well have been Sherrill, but we don't know for certain that the perp knew that Suzie wasn't expected to be at home.
 
  • #79
How could they narrow down who she told what to? You could end up killing half the town. If Suzie, Stacy and Sherrill all witnessed something or something was done to them that would make more sense if the murder/kidnapping was to hide a crime. I don't think Stacy was just in the wrong place I think she was a target as well.
Just throwing out my wild guess? Everyone assumes one or two of the victims were innocent bystanders. But there are possible situations where all three might be considered necessary to be removed by the perps.
It could have been a recent development. Someone overheard a conversation between the two girls at one of the parties? And that conversation included "did you tell your mom?" "yes, today.". Something big enough that it made someone move that night before it spread. It could be nothing more than fear that an act by minor players could bring down bigger fish.

That's just one possible scenario, my opinion only. But only looking at scenarios where it was an accident that all three had to be taken and the timing being random could mean overlooking possible scenarios for no good reason.
 
  • #80
I think this was planned way before any of the parties. At least the attack on Delmar.

I just don't believe three women are subdued, and taken away without multiple people and a plan.

I believe a second location was already ready for them. I believe there was probably someone handling the inside of the house and even someone out watching and waiting in a vehicle, waiting for the other perps inside.
 
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