MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #11

[Scooby Doo 4U]

ALL of these different and varied people are staying quiet or changing the subject? That's an awful lot of people to be able to put the kibosh on without any of them speaking up, in my opinion. Not a slip by a single soul? Maybe it's because none of them know anything whatsoever. That, too, could explain it.

What if it had nothing to do with multiple people. And what if the guilty party was a powerful figure in the community. A Lawyer, A JUDGE, a Prosecutor, a Rich Businessman....etc. People would only know "Speculation" and "Rumor" but be totally afraid of saying anything without solid evidence, for fear of this persons retaliation......because they have the means to retaliate. That sounds like a possible theory. And there was a Judge living right next door. But not saying anything, I know he claimed to not be there that weekend. But anything is possible at this point in my opinion.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

And perhaps, it is, like I suppose, one perp who has kept his secret alone and continues to keep it. Perhaps one day we'll know.

Besides the FBI saying multiple involved. How does one person handle subduing three frantic females without a plan. You need land you’re familiar with so likely money or access to land you know well, a big car or van, you need a gun, etc. You need Cox-like military precision in leaving no trace. You need land. Holes/body bags. You need murder weapons. Etc.

And even with him. And any sexual assault angle, it’s usually one person if it’s an adult. Three people requires pre-planning.

So what’s the motive for one person? Nope not buying it.

 

[Catmommy]

That's okay, I wasn't trying to sell it to you. We all have our theories. There is no prize for who is right. These victims need to be found. We can all agree on that.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

That's okay, I wasn't trying to sell it to you. We all have our theories. There is no prize for who is right. These victims need to be found.

Fair enough.

And yes, some people are getting nervous. I guarantee that. I think some are reading these exact replies and feeling pressure.

 

[Catmommy]

Fair enough.

And yes, some people are getting nervous. I guarantee that. I think some are reading these exact replies and feeling pressure.

I truly hope so. I would like to know the who, what, why and where but I'd settle for them just being found. They deserve to be brought home.

 

[TedMac]

I’m sure people in Bible Freeman case thought the same.

And yes the things you said do happen. Some die. Some go to prison. Some have power to keep people quiet. All can be true.

It’s very easy to control people with threats. Especially if they have power and flexed on that power to reinforce.

Most triple abductions tend to get solved very quickly. There’s reasons this one isn’t. It ain’t because perps were slick.

Like you, I think more than 1 person was involved in the kidnap/murders. Maybe one person did all the killing, but more than one was involved in getting them out of the house and moving them to where they were killed. Much has been said about how the central figure managed to keep his subordinates silent all these years. Maybe he is scary and threatened the others with death if they talked. Also, the subordinates may have witnessed the killings and saw what the central figure was capable of. But, another way the central figure managed to keep the others quiet is to simply point out to them that if they rat him out, he will do likewise to them. Thus, they will by law be deemed a guilty party in a triple homicide and they too will spend the balance of their lives in prison. That is a very effective way of guaranteeing silence. MOO

 

[cherrymeg]

Besides the FBI saying multiple involved. How does one person handle subduing three frantic females without a plan. You need land you’re familiar with so likely money or access to land you know well, a big car or van, you need a gun, etc. You need Cox-like military precision in leaving no trace. You need land. Holes/body bags. You need murder weapons. Etc.

And even with him. And any sexual assault angle, it’s usually one person if it’s an adult. Three people requires pre-planning.

So what’s the motive for one person? Nope not buying it.

Why body bags? Did they do full forensics on all three cars? If the perpetrator or perpetrators were from out of state or from a different area they could have brought the women alive or dead with them and disposed of the bodies randomly. A larger trunk could hold three people possibly.

 

[Catmommy]

Like you, I think more than 1 person was involved in the kidnap/murders. Maybe one person did all the killing, but more than one was involved in getting them out of the house and moving them to where they were killed. Much has been said about how the central figure managed to keep his subordinates silent all these years. Maybe he is scary and threatened the others with death if they talked. Also, the subordinates may have witnessed the killings and saw what the central figure was capable of. But, another way the central figure managed to keep the others quiet is to simply point out to them that if they rat him out, he will do likewise to them. Thus, they will by law be deemed a guilty party in a triple homicide and they too will spend the balance of their lives in prison. That is a very effective way of guaranteeing silence. MOO

True but we have read posts on this thread that bail bondsmen, lawyers and people loosely connected with LE clam up (my term) when confronted with this case. That's not the main players, that's people six, seven, eight degrees removed. Not plausible that ALL of these people know something and are afraid to say. MOO -ing like a cow

 

[cherrymeg]

True but we have read posts on this thread that bail bondsmen, lawyers and people loosely connected with LE clam up (my term) when confronted with this case. That's not the main players, that's people six, seven, eight degrees removed. Not plausible that ALL of these people know something and are afraid to say. MOO -ing like a cow

It's possible they just don't know the answer. It might also be off putting if you ask a person that wasn't involved with the case what they think happened.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

many assumptions made here

1. You don’t know that people aren’t talking. Some are in controlled environments for their own safety.

2. This isn’t a few people removed. It’s someone with a lot of influence and power that even if someone would talk, they would be like you and go “oh no way a cop/lawyer/judge/business guy could do it” and wa la!

 

[cherrymeg]

many assumptions made here

1. You don’t know that people aren’t talking. Some are in controlled environments for their own safety.

2. This isn’t a few people removed. It’s someone with a lot of influence and power that even if someone would talk, they would be like you and go “oh no way a cop/lawyer/judge/business guy could do it” and wa la!

What about if the person/s that did it this passing through or moved away from the area?On this site people know about crimes. Not everyone knows about people that go missing or are murdered unless it happens in their area, or it is a case that captures national attention and appears on local news. If someone confessed, threatened or joked about being part of making these three women disappear it might not be something people would take seriously. If you are involved in killing 3 people there is a good chance you might be a sociopath and even if you don't kill again, you probably do things like lie. I've known people that while they never confessed to murder would lie about such completely random things for no actual reason that if they had I probably wouldn't have taken them seriously. moo

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Like you, I think more than 1 person was involved in the kidnap/murders. Maybe one person did all the killing, but more than one was involved in getting them out of the house and moving them to where they were killed. Much has been said about how the central figure managed to keep his subordinates silent all these years. Maybe he is scary and threatened the others with death if they talked. Also, the subordinates may have witnessed the killings and saw what the central figure was capable of. But, another way the central figure managed to keep the others quiet is to simply point out to them that if they rat him out, he will do likewise to them. Thus, they will by law be deemed a guilty party in a triple homicide and they too will spend the balance of their lives in prison. That is a very effective way of guaranteeing silence. MOO

I'll add to this. Continuing on with your thought/angle. We don't know that the main person involved in the Killings, didn't also kill an accomplice or two, during the commission of this crime.
But I agree with the angle that it was most likely more than one person who was involved. I don't think Cox was that high speed, Ranger training be damned. Just don't think he was the one involved. I think he show boated about it to police, but I don't think it was him.
I think it was someone close to the women. At least one person. And then at least one or more that the women didn't know, or were loosely familiar with, or visa versa.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Homework assignment if anyone cares:

How many adult double/triple abductions (non minors, non Castro types where it happened over multiple days and one at a time) weren't drug related, at least to a major degree?

I think it's completely safe to rule out sexual assault. At least as the initial abduction motive. I can't say it didn't happen...

 

[cherrymeg]

Homework assignment if anyone cares:

How many adult double/triple abductions (non minors, non Castro types where it happened over multiple days and one at a time) weren't drug related, at least to a major degree?

I think it's completely safe to rule out sexual assault. At least as the initial abduction motive. I can't say it didn't happen...

I wouldn't rule out sexual assault as a motive, at all. Suzie and Stacy were adults legally but they were still teenagers. I would say what sets their disappearance apart from other cases that involve more than one woman or teenage girl, is that it seems to have happened at the house. Taking two girls like the Lyon sisters as they walk home from the mall would be a different type of crime scene for the initial attack. The Fort Worth Trio again involves a mall, the ages might be younger but like the Springfield Three one victim doesn't seem to fit with the other two. Sherrill was older and Julie Anne Mosely was younger. Ted Bundy abducted two women in one day not at the same time but from the same place. Some killers like to take risks and abducting more than one person adds additional risks. A sexual motive is very possible. MOO

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Homework assignment if anyone cares:

How many adult double/triple abductions (non minors, non Castro types where it happened over multiple days and one at a time) weren't drug related, at least to a major degree?

I think it's completely safe to rule out sexual assault. At least as the initial abduction motive. I can't say it didn't happen...

I agree. I also don't think this was a sexually motivated crime. At the very least, it wasn't the ultimate plan. In my own opinion

 

[Catmommy]

No one expected the two girls to be there. They didn't even decide to go to Suzie's until the other sleeping arrangements didn't work out at the last minute. If someone had followed them, there is no way that they could know that house wasn't full of graduation night family and friends as well. Sherrill was supposed to be alone that night and the next day too. That, in my opinion, makes Sherrill the target, for whatever reason, and the girls ending their night with the worst one of their short lives.

 

[TedMac]

Homework assignment if anyone cares:

How many adult double/triple abductions (non minors, non Castro types where it happened over multiple days and one at a time) weren't drug related, at least to a major degree?

I think it's completely safe to rule out sexual assault. At least as the initial abduction motive. I can't say it didn't happen...

BBM...You have obviously invested a lot of time and research into this case. Since you feel that sexual assault was NOT the motive for these abductions and presumed murders, what do you believe the motive to be? I'm not disagreeing with you, just curious of your thoughts. FWIW, I don't think this case was committed by a stranger. I have always thought it was carried out by more than one person and at least one of them was familiar with one or more of the women. Thank you in advance for your insight.

 

[cherrymeg]

No one expected the two girls to be there. They didn't even decide to go to Suzie's until the other sleeping arrangements didn't work out at the last minute. If someone had followed them, there is no way that they could know that house wasn't full of graduation night family and friends as well. Sherrill was supposed to be alone that night and the next day too. That, in my opinion, makes Sherrill the target, for whatever reason, and the girls ending their night with the worst one of their short lives.

Someone from a party could have overheard their plans. Someone or a few people could have followed them to see where they were going. Or they could have been invited to stop by. I think the one party was shut down so people might have been looking for other parties. The abductor or abductors could have seized the opportunity when they realized there was just a sleeping woman in the house.
My reason to think Sherrill wasn't the target is basically your reasoning but reversed lol. How would someone targeting her know for sure that Suzie and a group of friends wouldn't have shown up that night.
It could be either way. I think the perpetrator/s shows that they are willing to take risks maybe for an added thrill.

 

[Woofbark]

No one expected the two girls to be there. They didn't even decide to go to Suzie's until the other sleeping arrangements didn't work out at the last minute. If someone had followed them, there is no way that they could know that house wasn't full of graduation night family and friends as well. Sherrill was supposed to be alone that night and the next day too. That, in my opinion, makes Sherrill the target, for whatever reason, and the girls ending their night with the worst one of their short lives.

Only time will tell the answer to who was the target. Also consider did anyone actually see the girls park those cars in that driveway that night ?The cars being there doesn't absolutely prove the girls were there that night.

 

[cherrymeg]

Only time will tell the answer to who was the target. Also consider did anyone actually see the girls park those cars in that driveway that night ?The cars being there doesn't absolutely prove the girls were there that night.

This has always been a question at least for me. Did they make it to the Streeter/Levitt home? Did they leave from there after they left the parties? Could someone else have picked them up and Sherrill went out to get them (possible explanation for diner and gas station sightings)? Was the return of the cars by people not Stacy or Suzie, what led to Sherrill being abducted?