MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #14

[Sillybilly]

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[Missouri Mule]

Thank you for posting that statement.

It is natural to assume that one of the very few people who could get Suzie to open the door to someone trusted at that late hour would include Dusty. But his explanation would preclude that possibility as he was involved in moving band equipment. It is my understanding there is incontrovertible proof. It is not possible to be in two places at the same time.

If that is true, there is another person who would be trusted at that late hour. I hesitate to say this but I believe the only other person would be a police officer or a “fake” police officer.

At that time Bartt was “persona non grata” at the Levitt home and to use former Det. Asher, Bartt was “sloshed” and would physically impossible to be somehow involved.

If Dusty has a provable alibi and if a cop/fake cop was not involved it must by elimination be a third person who gained entry.

So if the obvious suspects can be eliminated, we must have someone else who would be “trusted” plus the ability to stage a crime scene so well as to render all LE efforts futile.
But we need one other element. We need a motive.

If I have misstated any facts please advise.

 

[Chippergreg]

Is it known whether there was a deadbolt or just a lock on the door handle

 

[Talullah]

I thought you were suggesting that someone picked them up from Delmar to get away from varnish fumes.

I don’t think they had anyone pick them up. They had cars and the fumes might not have even been bothersome to them. I’m thinking of reasons Sherrill might’ve stepped out and Suzie and Stacy might not have gone to Delmar at all or left soon after they got there.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Is it known whether there was a deadbolt or just a lock on the door handle

If there was, it was not locked when the perp and women left. The door was just pulled shut. That would be possible with either a conventional or deadbolt lock.

 

[Chippergreg]

Would access to get inside be easy with a conventional door handle lock

 

[pulaski_banks]

I'm sure it has been talked about at some point, but does anyone know if Suzie and Sherrill typically stepped outside to smoke or did they smoke in the house?

 

[Woofbark]

At that time of the morning I think Suzie or Sherrill would’ve driven her home. Stacy could’ve gotten her car later.

I thought you were suggesting that someone picked them up from Delmar to get away from varnish fumes.

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It's nice that she's on here.

 

[Chippergreg]

I've locked my keys in my house before and it's easy to get in simply with a credit card or id

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

Anyone know where Joe Riedel was that night??
The papers say he was in Springfield but he didn’t return from Illinois with Mike so where was he that night ?...
he was also the outcast of even the grave robbers and was robbing houses/Subway not far from delmar.......anyone find that suspicious in regards to this case?

 

[Missouri Mule]

I've locked my keys in my house before and it's easy to get in simply with a credit card or id

That would be possible with a conventional door lock. That would be impossible with a deadbolt lock. That is why it is a good idea to have deadbolt locks installed on all exterior doors. The only way to defeat that lock is by kicking the door in and breaking the door jam.

It is also a good idea when purchasing a previously owned home to have all the exterior door rekeyed by a locksmith.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

People who want to abduct and kill aren't going to let a cheap door lock get in their way, at any rate......

 

[TexasT]

Is it known whether there was a deadbolt or just a lock on the door handle

Greg ,
The storm door & door then swung in opposite directions .
Edit : new door appears to have a deadbolt Way up high.

 

[Chippergreg]

People who want to abduct and kill aren't going to let a cheap door lock get in their way, at any rate......

Very true but if it was the old school handle lock no forced entry would be apparent

 

[Kurtotall]

Very true but if it was the old school handle lock no forced entry would be apparent

from the crime scene phots: It looks as if there is a deadbolt located up high on the front door.

 

[Chippergreg]

from the crime scene phots: It looks as if there is a deadbolt located up high on the front door.

I believe that's a picture of the new door

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

I am not particularly interested in the "how" because there's numerous ways and police have simply kept out crucial details on purpose about the state of the house.......i think that the best we can do is focus on who the cops liked a lot in the early days...

someone tell me why detective Thomas, the sole investigator from late 92 to the grand jury hearing in 94, said there were "fewer than five" suspects? so suspect list is 4 and below to him....and we know Steve Garrison was one of his POIs....... and if the others were GJ3.. then doesn't that leave one more??

 

[Alfonsina Storni]

If you feel like people are missing from their home, it's not time act like you are at an open house or pretend concern while forgetting to call the police or to check in with the McCalls. How did the information spread that they were missing? Why would people assume Sherrill was with Suzie and Stacy? Someone pointed out that if you were trying to locate the three women you would think people would be making phone calls from their homes, not camping at the house on Delmar with a single phone line that probably should be left open.
I also wonder who invited people into the Levitt/Streeter home and how was that invite phrased.

I read somewhere ( I need to find out where) that Mrs. McCall knew the girls were missing after receiving a phone call (around 7pm) from a mother of a Kickapoo student. If this is true, then I have to say that it is really strange Henson and Kirby didn´t tell the McCalls that Stacy was missing. It would be interesting to find out the identity of the mother of that student and how she knew the girls were missing. If you think of this scenario, it seems as if many people (except for the McCalls) knew the girls were missing. At 8/8:30 Janice drove
to Suzie´s house and when she found Stacy´s shorts, she called her husband. When the first police officer arrived,there were, at least, 18 people at the house, including the McCalls,Henson. Janelle and her parents, and some other friends.

 

[Alfonsina Storni]

still think there is a reason so many people went into that house and that’s to leave fingerprints and destroy evidence. Also, do we know if the police ever confirmed that the phone rang when JK was in the house? Again, only speculation, but I feel for these people. I hope I get to see this case solved in my lifetime.[I/QUOTE]

I agree with you. If I were the murderer/kidnapper or person, somehow, involved in the crime/cover up what I would do to corrupt the crime scene would be to go back to the house and simply touch (instead of cleaning)all of the objects that belonged to the victims. I would pretend to be worried and I would bring with me friends and family to destroy evidence. This is somthing that has been done, at least in my country. I remember one crime scene that was intentionally corrupted by the relatives of the victim like this.

Regarding the phone call, it would be interesting to know whether the police was able to trace the phone number or not.If they had found the "prankster" , I´m sure that he would be a suspect. Right?

 

[Chippergreg]

It's been suggested before that they possibly entered witness protection, if so wouldn't there be records of them testifying at some trial prior to there entrance?