MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #14

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  • #221
In my opinion only, without remains or a confession that provides such, there is no physical evidence.
 
  • #222
They didn’t have enough info.....look at Bible/Freeman case. So many parallels to this one... sometimes there’s just not quite enough evidence though you do “know” who the players are. Hopefully someone comes forward with tangible knowledge or a piece of clothing/DNA item.... praying that happens

Other than multiple women missing in same region , not much parallels .

A PI tried to give evidence found at the crime to the Osbi agent who blew him off . They were never sent to a GJ , and were just lacking evidence.

Granted several people in the public had info & never came forward . Even Years after 2/3 suspects died Welch 2007 ,Pennington 2015. And Welch is the one everyone was afraid of .
 
  • #223
They didn’t have enough info.....look at Bible/Freeman case. So many parallels to this one... sometimes there’s just not quite enough evidence though you do “know” who the players are. Hopefully someone comes forward with tangible knowledge or a piece of clothing/DNA item.... praying that happens

Other than multiple women missing in same region , not much parallels .

A PI tried to give evidence found at the crime to the Osbi agent who blew him off . They were never sent to a GJ , and were just lacking evidence.

Granted several people in the public had info & never came forward . Even Years after 2/3 suspects died Welch 2007 ,Pennington 2015. And Welch is the one everyone was afraid of .

Let’s hope someone here talks before all suspect / suspects are deceased .
 
  • #224
Other than multiple women missing in same region , not much parallels .

A PI tried to give evidence found at the crime to the Osbi agent who blew him off . They were never sent to a GJ , and were just lacking evidence.

Granted several people in the public had info & never came forward . Even Years after 2/3 suspects died Welch 2007 ,Pennington 2015. And Welch is the one everyone was afraid of .

Let’s hope someone here talks before all suspect / suspects are deceased .
Yes, IMO, the same with 3mw.. drug dealing fringe of the grave robbers were worried about things Suzie knew..... evidence probably given to SPD that was mishandled as well.. I’ll talk offline on that aspect and why I believe it..

I believe men in that case threatened the people in the know they same way FBI agent Wright suggested in this case..
 
  • #225
They never lived together. Same apartment building. I think you might be miss quoting some you obviously have issues with.
Nope check that back... Steve was briefly with Charles Tuna in between living right next to him....

At any rate they were very close and Steve was in Tuna’s apartment numerous times

I don’t get why some seem to downplay Garrison’s connection. This is a gun wielding rapist who was literal friends with murderers and holds information private to police and him that is sensitive to this case.....now why is that?
 
  • #226
Nope check that back... Steve was briefly with Charles Tuna in between living right next to him....

At any rate they were very close and Steve was in Tuna’s apartment numerous times

I don’t get why some seem to downplay Garrison’s connection. This is a gun wielding rapist who was literal friends with murderers and holds information private to police and him that is sensitive to this case.....now why is that?

You are referring to the Rogersville gang I believe, The rap sheets of the “Grand Jury 3” didn’t include murder.
 
  • #227
You are referring to the Rogersville gang I believe, The rap sheets of the “Grand Jury 3” didn’t include murder.
Yeah I know.. the non-Garrison ones were armed robbers and carjackers. Not them..

Robbs..

name another family in a 30 mile radius of Delmar that was good at both making people disappear and eliminating evidence.(both before and after 1992–Francis in 1990, but also Evans in 2002), Garrison was directly related to one and helped sell drugs with another
 
  • #228
Nope check that back... Steve was briefly with Charles Tuna in between living right next to him....

At any rate they were very close and Steve was in Tuna’s apartment numerous times

I don’t get why some seem to downplay Garrison’s connection. This is a gun wielding rapist who was literal friends with murderers and holds information private to police and him that is sensitive to this case.....now why is that?

Ok, there is Tuna, Kathee,
Sandy and Mule.

All have spoken with Garrison either before his most recent incarceration or during his said incarceration.
All have posted on forums past and present. Yet nothing solid to convict anyone.

Sandy and Kathee promised me the info that was received from Garrison when they finished interviewing him,
Of course that turned into
wait until
the recorded interviews were transcribed. Blah blah blah... been down the little girl who cried wolf path with Kathee and Sandy enough for one life time (the look on Kim Goldman's face was priceless) wrapped up my years of frustration about KB's journalistic tactics perfectly. It screemed WTF is this woman's deal..

Good cops won't talk because they're scared.

bad cops won't tell the truth because they're too busy distracting people. (There's nothing behind the curtain pay attention to what we want you to pay attention to.)

Kathee won't talk because she is scared.

Garrison won't talk, because he's just going to incriminate himself and hell, he may be scared.

Sounds like with this Garrison theory everyone is too scared to do the right thing.

I guess, I'm right back to radical acceptance to get thru my days.
 
  • #229
Ok, there is Tuna, Kathee,
Sandy and Mule.

All have spoken with Garrison either before his most recent incarceration or during his said incarceration.
All have posted on forums past and present. Yet nothing solid to convict anyone.

Sandy and Kathee promised me the info that was received from Garrison when they finished interviewing him,
Of course that turned into
wait until
the recorded interviews were transcribed. Blah blah blah... been down the little girl who cried wolf path with Kathee and Sandy enough for one life time (the look on Kim Goldman's face was priceless) wrapped up my years of frustration about KB's journalistic tactics perfectly. It screemed WTF is this woman's deal..

Good cops won't talk because they're scared.

bad cops won't tell the truth because they're too busy distracting people. (There's nothing behind the curtain pay attention to what we want you to pay attention to.)

Kathee won't talk because she is scared.

Garrison won't talk, because he's just going to incriminate himself and hell, he may be scared.

Sounds like with this Garrison theory everyone is too scared to do the right thing.

I guess, I'm right back to radical acceptance to get thru my days.

...
 
  • #230
Yeah I know.. the non-Garrison ones were armed robbers and carjackers. Not them..

Robbs..

name another family in a 30 mile radius of Delmar that was good at both making people disappear and eliminating evidence.(both before and after 1992–Francis in 1990, but also Evans in 2002), Garrison was directly related to one and helped sell drugs with another

He has never been accused much less convicted of murder. Drugs, probably.

Concentrate why his rape trial went south after his attorney was threatened by some kind of biker type.

To my knowledge that was never fully explored by the media/press. Why? That sort of thing doesn’t happen everyday. I can’t recall that a composite drawing was ever publicized. Was it some kind of meaningless stunt? Were bad cops involved? Some cops are/were known as bikers themselves.

Reminds me of the time some years ago I spoke to a News-Leader reporter and he told me that they would discuss every unsolved case but they flat out refused to discuss this one case. What’s up with that? Why didn’t the newspaper publish that refusal? I can’t recall that ever happening anywhere before or since,
 
  • #231
Detectives share view in case of missing women
Chillicothe (Mo.) Constitution-Tribune
November 13, 1995
Springfield, MO, (AP)- A group of veteran detectives who have reviewed the 1992 disappearance of three women has reached the same conclusions as police did.

The three women –Sherrill Levitt, her daughter Suzanne Streeter and Streeter’s classmate Stacy McCall- all were apparently abducted from Levitt’s home in June 1992.

The Missouri Violent Crime Support Unit has finished reviewing the case files, and close to 30 leads will be re-examined, said police Capt. Darrell Crick.

The support unit and Springfield investigators agreed that THE motive was sexual assault, rather then drug dealing . They also agreed on the same list of suspects, although the two groups ranked them differently on a scale of suspicion.
 
  • #232
Detectives share view in case of missing women
Chillicothe (Mo.) Constitution-Tribune
November 13, 1995
Springfield, MO, (AP)- A group of veteran detectives who have reviewed the 1992 disappearance of three women has reached the same conclusions as police did.

The three women –Sherrill Levitt, her daughter Suzanne Streeter and Streeter’s classmate Stacy McCall- all were apparently abducted from Levitt’s home in June 1992.

The Missouri Violent Crime Support Unit has finished reviewing the case files, and close to 30 leads will be re-examined, said police Capt. Darrell Crick.

The support unit and Springfield investigators agreed that THE motive was sexual assault, rather then drug dealing . They also agreed on the same list of suspects, although the two groups ranked them differently on a scale of suspicion.

Offhand do you know the officer who headed up that review?

I wonder if they still stand by that conclusion. The last official police statement in 2012 referring to the male kidnapper seems to contradict that earlier conclusion.

It would appear that longer list of suspects had dwindled down to one male if I read it right.

Thoughts?
 
  • #233
I’ve been thinking about something I have read somewhere this past week. I thought I would share this to see if my thinking made sense.

The last “official” police statement (that I know of) clearly alluded to one male perpetrator and whose whereabouts were unaccounted for between the hours of 9 PM and 6 AM.

What I read “somewhere” said the girls were with one individual at the party (on Hanover?) and that this was the individual was also the one who gained entry that night sometime about 3:00 AM.

If that is true it might explain why Janelle was acting so strangely the next day. (This has been widely discussed.). She may have seen him that night and feared he might have sought one or both out later that night. She must have surely been worried in that she started calling so early (“called and called and called.”)

My source who had an inside to LE, told me that the perp was a sexual deviant and described as a “real sicko.” He personally tracked him for 10 years and even drove to his place of employment with a friend. Saw him working. Said the perp lived a distance from Springfield “but not too far.”

The name of the perp came from a well respected member of the LE community. I tried very hard to get that name but it was refused because it would potentially put the original source’s job in jeopardy and my source believed one or both could be put in physical danger. This suggests the perp has considerable power of one sort or another.

One might conclude such an individual was Garrison with his rape conviction. But that can’t be true because he was locked away.

So if this is true who could it be? One would think it might be from the group celebrating. And Janelle may have seen the interaction and somehow knew his dark side and why she acted so oddly the next day.

I do not know who this suspected perp is but it would make sense that a sole individual working alone could be the perp. I am virtually certain the police know exactly who he is but do not have the physical evidence to arrest him. I was informed there was physical DNA found but not conclusive enough to make the arrest.

If I can stumble on where it placed the perp with the girls that night I will have a follow-up post.
 
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  • #234
Detectives share view in case of missing women
Chillicothe (Mo.) Constitution-Tribune
November 13, 1995
Springfield, MO, (AP)- A group of veteran detectives who have reviewed the 1992 disappearance of three women has reached the same conclusions as police did.

The three women –Sherrill Levitt, her daughter Suzanne Streeter and Streeter’s classmate Stacy McCall- all were apparently abducted from Levitt’s home in June 1992.

The Missouri Violent Crime Support Unit has finished reviewing the case files, and close to 30 leads will be re-examined, said police Capt. Darrell Crick.

The support unit and Springfield investigators agreed that THE motive was sexual assault, rather then drug dealing . They also agreed on the same list of suspects, although the two groups ranked them differently on a scale of suspicion.
1995.

Things have been found out/revealed since then.... the Cassville dig and gag order was in 2002.. same connection to the same players involved with Garrison
 
  • #235
IMHO You Can’t rule out that sexual assault didn’t happen but as far as motive goes....no chance.

motive for abduction was shutting the women up and scaring them into silence..Suzie was “cooperating with the cops” according to Detective Webb. The drug fringe of the grave robbers got spooked and needed to silence.... it’s the only motive that you don’t have to force to fit

there’s a reason there’s gag orders and Garrison knows private details about this case! And there’s a reason two Robb farms were searched.. and the Hood property is directly related to Robbs as well.....

you got to wonder why Kathee Baird immediately goes off the map about this case after posting in forums for years.......the second she interviews Garrison? Hmmmmmmm
 
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  • #236
It is possible that both things might be true.

We don’t know what she was saying nor whether what she was saying was meaningful. In fact the police said three years after the abductions the police said it was sexual assault and not drugs.

What was the date that Webb made the claim? It might have been an offhand comment and was not the actual motive to take and murder the women.

If the motive was to shut her up there was nearly 12 miles from Battlefield to Delmar. Instead of the enduring mystery we have until the present day, she could have been intercepted on the way home. My recollection is that section of road was lightly traveled and winding at that time of night.

I suppose anything is possible but the police seemed to settle on sexual assault after three full years. If the police statement of 2012 is to be taken as reliable a sole perp would seem highly plausible as all it requires to be successful is for one person to keep quiet.
 
  • #237
Sexual assault was likely (three women)... but initial motive? Like what actually brought the perps to the house... I don’t think they were planning on assault unless it was done to display power but I don’t even think that was the case
 
  • #238
Motive :

Missouri violent crime unit - Assault

Feds profilers - Assault

Spd - Assault

• GJ3 weren’t know by the 3MW
• and certainly weren’t trusted
• No forced entry
• they didn’t have a “ look “ of a ruse imo

So how did they gain entry ?
 
  • #239
Motive :

Missouri violent crime unit - Assault

Feds profilers - Assault

Spd - Assault

• GJ3 weren’t know by the 3MW
• and certainly weren’t trusted
• No forced entry
• they didn’t have a “ look “ of a ruse imo

So how did they gain entry ?
Who said GJ3 committed the abduction?

they may have been involved in other aspects of the crime (site #2)

fed profiler did NOT say sexual assault...and I believe him over any SPD profile

and what did MOCIC say about this? Why was a gang unit called to investigate this crime “for months” according to media

why did SPD bother with GJ3 for two full years if they had nothing to do with the crime or know anyone involved with it? Makes zero sense

imo entry was gained by someone experienced at breaking in houses (Riedel, REW, MGR maybe?) and maybe Sherrill was lured out (she was out searching for her daughter reportedly when you consider the sightings) and maybe they snuck in? I don’t know how it happened and we can only speculate
 
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  • #240
Sexual assault was likely (three women)... but initial motive? Like what actually brought the perps to the house... I don’t think they were planning on assault unless it was done to display power but I don’t even think that was the case

It there any evidence that establishes there were multiple perps? When I first began looking at this case I believed there had to be multiple perps. But no one has talked so far as I know. That suggests original assumptions could have been premature.

At the outset that was the working theory of the FBI profiler based on a “totality of facts.” So far as I know other than a few odd things nothing really establishes that.

It would seem logical that if a van was used and parked at the corner of Kentwood and Delmar it would have required a second person. But in recent years, the existence of a van has even been questioned.

If there was any evidence that multiple perps entered the house I am unaware of it.

I wish the SPD would have a public question and answer forum to go over the case. I would have just one question. Was it possible for one person to have committed this crime?

There was a “not talked about” person who was the top suspect of my source. I have such a person in mind but not his name. But I believe he likely came from the 1992 graduating class.
 
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