MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #14

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

Do you have links for this information?

GJ info is common by now...check media links. go to footage.net/search and type in "sherrill levitt missing"

Lots of news paper articles on the GJ and garrison available...try typing in "Steve garrison" or "Steven Garrison" in Newspapers.com, narrow from 1992-1996...some of it he is referred to as "informant" (because name was revealed later...so you have to find that by reading the 3mw related articles or trying other terms

Proboards has a person who transcribed all the media posts and some old KY3 and KOL10 articles as well at the different anniversaries,,...

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

My source implied it was from DNA from the home. But if it can’t be matched to anyone it is sitting out there until it can be matched.

My personal opinion is that he did not have a close personal relationship with the family.

I’ve heard all kinds of things about Garrison but I’m not seeing anything that connects to him.

If you want to PM me I will give you information I can’t say on the forum.

the cops said one perp at least known to the women and knew their comings and goings

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

My source implied it was from DNA from the home. But if it can’t be matched to anyone it is sitting out there until it can be matched.

My personal opinion is that he did not have a close personal relationship with the family.

I’ve heard all kinds of things about Garrison but I’m not seeing anything that connects to him.

<snipped quoted post>.

And you believe this source why?? you have had a bunch of souerces of the years....why is this one all the sudden correct?

Why should anyone here believe you?...Just wondering

 

[Sillybilly]

And you believe this source why?? you have had a bunch of souerces of the years....why is this one all the sudden correct?

Why should anyone here believe you?...Just wondering

Jumping off this post to remind members about Websleuths rules ...

Unless a member is a VI, information stated as fact must be supported by links to an MSM source. As this case is old, members may not be able to provide links to all MSM of the day, so newspaper articles that support the information are permitted as long as they contain the name of the publication, and the date.

If MSM links or articles are not available, information presented is to be considered opinion and opinion posts must contain a clear indication that is it an opinion (JMO, IMO, etc).

If the information is not substantiated by MSM and is not clearly noted as opinion, then it is considered hearsay/rumor and it is up to members how much importance to place on the information and whether to believe it or not.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Interesting. This is not the first time you wrote this. I also believe that, if Garrison would have known something that would have led the investigators to obtain substancial evidence, then they would have prosecuted him, right? Now, I am curious about the evidence. Was the DNA found at the house or somewhere else? I have read many articles in which the police say they haven´t found evidence. So, this is good news. Why they can´t get a sample from the man? Do you know if your suspect knows/has a close relationship with people from the parties? This is my theory.

The problem is that information is not being provided by the SPD that keeps us up to date. I’m going on what I know. I don’t see the connection to anyone who has been discussed. And I don’t see a motive.

So logically if they don’t exist but we know a crime occurred one could draw a conclusion that it might have been done by one male and the police have told us that much.

One poster has suggested the perp posts here or alternatively keeps up with this case. Of course that is speculation but I think it is highly likely. Or a third option is that he is dead.

 

[Missouri Mule]

And you believe this source why?? you have had a bunch of souerces of the years....why is this one all the sudden correct?

Why should anyone here believe you?...Just wondering

They shouldn’t.

I’m expressing my opinions and some facts.

My conclusion is based on the lack of facts. No one has rolled on any other conspirators. We have no motive. The primary suspect hasn’t produced a single knowable fact to the public.

Plus when I have been in touch with a real person who talked to the Chief of Police and he essentially says he doesn’t know what happened and I’m inclined to believe whoever the kidnapper is simply had to keep his mouth closed and lead a normal life.

My personal opinion is that based on the “sexual assault” theory espoused by the police and the sole male kidnapper is that this was a one time deal where his hormones overcame his ability to control himself. He lost control and compounded the problem by murdering three beautiful women for his own sexual gratification. As I said, this is my personal opinion.

I can change but until I see something that Garrison, Cox or Carnahan had something to do with this, I will believe we are looking at one individual but one known to some people outside the SPD. I believe that. There is evidence to believe the perp is unknown to the SPD when one of their own, now retired, openly expressed the belief a cop did this crime. This is second hand information but the source is believed to be strongly reliable.

It could have been a cop. Whoever it was had to be “trusted” enough to open the door and/or lured out of the house. That has always been the operating assumption and seems logical to me.

As I have suggested, the police should attempt to round up all people known to be at the party that night and reinterview them. Find out who Suzie was seen talking to.

And as I have said, I’m sure in my own mind he keeps up with this and other forums. It may be solved when he finally comes unraveled enough to say or do something that incriminates himself.

One other thing. I’ll bet his DNA is not in the CODIS system because this was his only crime.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

They shouldn’t.

I’m expressing my opinions and some facts.

My conclusion is based on the lack of facts. No one has rolled on any other conspirators. We have no motive. The primary suspect hasn’t produced a single knowable fact to the public.

Plus when I have been in touch with a real person who talked to the Chief of Police and he essentially says he doesn’t know what happened and I’m inclined to believe whoever the kidnapper is simply had to keep his mouth closed and lead a normal life.

My personal opinion is that based on the “sexual assault” theory espoused by the police and the sole male kidnapper is that this was a one time deal where his hormones overcame his ability to control himself. He lost control and compounded the problem by murdering three beautiful women for his own sexual gratification. As I said, this is my personal opinion.

I can change but until I see something that Garrison, Cox or Carnahan had something to do with this, I will believe we are looking at one individual but one known to some people outside the SPD. I believe that. There is evidence to believe the perp is unknown to the SPD when one of their own, now retired, openly expressed the belief a cop did this crime. This is second hand information but the source is believed to be strongly reliable.

It could have been a cop. Whoever it was had to be “trusted” enough to open the door and/or lured out of the house. That has always been the operating assumption and seems logical to me.

As I have suggested, the police should attempt to round up all people known to be at the party that night and reinterview them. Find out who Suzie was seen talking to.

And as I have said, I’m sure in my own mind he keeps up with this and other forums. It may be solved when he finally comes unraveled enough to say or do something that incriminates himself.

One other thing. I’ll bet his DNA is not in the CODIS system because this was his only crime.

"no one has rolled" but in fact people have rolled.... Garrison has rolled. And if you believe Tuna's information....he has leaked vital things as well as potentially others in the GJ...you're just not exposed to it

without seeing the cops's investigation board and notes and GJ testimonies...how can you speak against it??

 

[Missouri Mule]

"no one has rolled" but in fact people have rolled.... Garrison has rolled. And if you believe Tuna's information....he has leaked vital things as well as potentially others in the GJ...you're just not exposed to it

without seeing the cops's investigation board and notes and GJ testimonies...how can you speak against it??

Well, Tuna told me just last week that one of the main officers who worked this case said he thought that some cops did it. Which tells me the SPD don’t know.

My recollection is that Tuna was pounded hard in the grand jury about the mystery van and wanted to tie that to Garrison.

In any event the grand jury “no-billed” the case. We know the prosecutor was asking after that grand jury to find the three men at George’s. That implies he didn’t know either.

I do believe that a small number of MSHP troopers know the name. The perp simply hasn’t slipped up yet would be my surmise.

On that basis it would seem that Garrisons’s testimony was worthless.

I would make one other point. The person I have in mind as the best suspect is clean as a “hound’s tooth” on Missouri Casenet. This adds to my belief he commited this one crime and no more.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

Well, Tuna told me just last week that one of the main officers who worked this case said he thought that some cops did it. Which tells me the SPD don’t know.

My recollection is that Tuna was pounded hard in the grand jury about the mystery van and wanted to tie that to Garrison.

In any event the grand jury “no-billed” the case. We know the prosecutor was asking after that grand jury to find the three men at George’s. That implies he didn’t know either.

I do believe that a small number of MSHP troopers know the name. The perp simply hasn’t slipped up yet would be my surmise.

On that basis it would seem that Garrisons’s testimony was worthless.

I would make one other point. The person I have in mind as the best suspect is clean as a “hound’s tooth” on Missouri Casenet. This adds to my belief he commited this one crime and no more.

You still dont answer how Garrison had prime info....

Also youre making a lot of assumptions with no facts.

fact: you haven't heard the GJ questions or answers
fact: you dont know what cops wanted from Garrison specifically..

Also your suspect having a clean record means nothing one way or another ....do you have PROOf? because that's just conjecture and not proof at all of anything....many people have clean records, criminal or not..,

with regards to Garrison...how do you know they just didnt have one missing link? that they were close but didnt have the perp(s) dead to rights and needed one more piece of evidence for it to go to trial.... and again HOW does he get 'prime info'... cant avoid that fact

 

[Missouri Mule]

You still dont answer how Garrison had prime info....

Also youre making a lot of assumptions with no facts.

fact: you haven't heard the GJ questions or answers
fact: you dont know what cops wanted from Garrison specifically..

Also your suspect having a clean record means nothing one way or another ....do you have PROOf? because that's just conjecture and not proof at all of anything....many people have clean records, criminal or not..,

with regards to Garrison...how do you know they just didnt have one missing link? that they were close but didnt have the perp(s) dead to rights and needed one more piece of evidence for it to go to trial.... and again HOW does he get 'prime info'... cant avoid that fact

Do you know what this “prime info” was? I’d be interested in knowing what that was. Please elaborate. TIA.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

Do you know what this “prime info” was? I’d be interested in knowing what that was. Please elaborate. TIA.

Gag orders bud... The cops literally wont let papers print this so I cant post what he said on Websleuths...no MSM article about it so I would have my post deleted if I wrote it... it would be illegal to post the info he told the police

You still didnt answer how he got the prime info that only? Would respectfully like to hear your answer to this

 

[Missouri Mule]

Gag orders bud... The cops literally wont let papers print this so I cant post what he said on Websleuths...no MSM article about it so I would have my post deleted if I wrote it... it would be illegal to post the info he told the police

You still didnt answer how he got the prime info that only? Would respectfully like to hear your answer to this

I can’t very well comment on something I haven’t seen and don’t even believe it is relevant. You might want to take this up with other folks here who may know something about it. I’m sincerely sorry but it am unable to shed any light on this purported evidence.

 

[Missouri Mule]

I watched the “People Magazine’s” ID. Discovery program for the third time tonight. What stood out to me was the shaky timelines for some possible suspects.

While most believe they are not real suspects but it seems exceedingly difficult to reconcile Cox’s alibi. He had the ability to carry out such a crime if he had a way into the home. I can imagine of such a connection with a major suspect. He also has absolutely no alibi. None, nada, zero.

I can see no rationale for marking him off as a suspect. He openly said the women are dead. He says he will say more after his mother passes. This is not to say he absolutely did it but I do believe it is exceedingly foolish to mark him off.

 

[Alfonsina Storni]

My source implied it was from DNA from the home. But if it can’t be matched to anyone it is sitting out there until it can be matched.

My personal opinion is that he did not have a close personal relationship with the family.

"He doesn´t have a close personal relationhip" means that he indeed has a relationship, but not too close, right? And when you say the family, I wonder which family you could be referring to.

I don´t know where you get this info. It doesn´t match with what the police publicly declared.

 

[Alfonsina Storni]

FBI expert discusses abductions


(not sure if the page is reliable, but I post this here because it is interesting.)

Springfield Police Chief Terry Knowles said the department could protect those who provide information if necessary.

Wright said, "Criminals do not commit these crimes in a vacuum. They suffer from anxiety and stress just like everyone else does."
Behavior changes after the commission of a crime may involve not drinking alcohol when the person usually drinks, or going to church when the person did not previously.Very often when we try to control our behavior, we overcontrol our behavior,"Wright said.

 

[Seeker994]

I agree with Alfonsina’s quote. Whoever did this probably feels pretty confident about not getting caught after all these years, but it also still weighs on their mind. Personally, I hope whoever did this is consumed with guilt and never has a moments peace until they confess. JMO

 

[Talullah]

Well, Tuna told me just last week that one of the main officers who worked this case said he thought that some cops did it. Which tells me the SPD don’t know.

My recollection is that Tuna was pounded hard in the grand jury about the mystery van and wanted to tie that to Garrison.

In any event the grand jury “no-billed” the case. We know the prosecutor was asking after that grand jury to find the three men at George’s. That implies he didn’t know either.

I do believe that a small number of MSHP troopers know the name. The perp simply hasn’t slipped up yet would be my surmise.

On that basis it would seem that Garrisons’s testimony was worthless.

I would make one other point. The person I have in mind as the best suspect is clean as a “hound’s tooth” on Missouri Casenet. This adds to my belief he commited this one crime and no more.

I agree that Garrison’s testimony was worthless. I think the state agrees too since he hasn’t (as far as I know) testified before a subsequent grand jury.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

I agree that Garrison’s testimony was worthless. I think the state agrees too since he hasn’t (as far as I know) testified before a subsequent grand jury.

Cursory dismissals based on limited news articles can get you in trouble...

Garrison has a connection to the women and a connection to people who murder and bury people.....(Robb clan) and has info about the case only investigators knew. Bodies are why they couldn’t go to trial with it.....

the user “Hurricane” who was well respected on here also agreed that the Garrison angle (his info provided to police) had a lot to it and more likely than any other scenario.......

bottom line: no other person got warrants by judges and a GJ called.....someone would have been arrested and charged if they had the bodies

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

FBI expert discusses abductions


(not sure if the page is reliable, but I post this here because it is interesting.)

Springfield Police Chief Terry Knowles said the department could protect those who provide information if necessary.

Wright said, "Criminals do not commit these crimes in a vacuum. They suffer from anxiety and stress just like everyone else does."
Behavior changes after the commission of a crime may involve not drinking alcohol when the person usually drinks, or going to church when the person did not previously.Very often when we try to control our behavior, we overcontrol our behavior,"Wright said.

Wright is right........ I can think of someone who visited this very forum once upon a time that fits this mold.. a “changed man” so to speak

 

[Catmommy]

Wright is right........ I can think of someone who visited this very forum once upon a time that fits this mold.. a “changed man” so to speak

ArkansasTimeTraveler, if this is your opinion then who do you opine it is? We are all here to help solve a crime, aren't we. Please share.