MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #14

[asyousay]

Outstanding analysis. I first started getting immersed in this case when I was 48. I am now 76. I have experienced intense interest in the case for periods of time and then backed away to regain my sanity. Don’t let it rule your life.

IMO this was committed by one person. I would not rule out a police officer, or one who faked being an officer. The problem with that is why it would have happened so late.

If not an officer, then someone at the Hanover party who merely followed them home. It would not necessarily be a recent graduate. He could have been a stalker who fit in with that age group.

The police have told us it was a male “kidnapper.” They have told us it was sexual assault.

The profiler didn’t think it was one person involved.

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

BAITING, TROLLING, INCITING CONFLICT

Additionally, please don't state or suggest that you are privy to inside information, but either can't or won't discuss it.

If you can't post it, don't!


You may want to read the rules .

Respectfully,, I thought it was allowed since Mule, for example does posts talking like... “I talked to ___ years ago” “I talked to cop friends from Rogersville...”

 

[Bookkeeper2]

Please end the flame war. Take it to a Conversation/PM/whatever they call it here.

Otherwise we'll get shut down again.

Thanks...

I agree and I'll drop it. Not baiting or trolling. No matter the theory or poster it's unethical to demand a poster's ID or confidential sources. Wouldn't you agree? I was surprised that other posters didn't condemn the request - before me - for the preservation of the forum. But, noticed several got on board to attack my post. That is suspicious.

 

[asyousay]

I agree and I'll drop it. Not baiting or trolling. No matter the theory or poster it's unethical to demand a poster's ID or confidential sources. Wouldn't you agree? I was surprised that other posters didn't condemn the request - before me - for the preservation of the forum. But, noticed several got on board to attack my post. That is suspicious.

If you have confidential sources that’s fine but then don’t post about it and say “ I know blah blah blah but I can’t say how I know this”. It’s not productive at all.

IMO

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

I agree and I'll drop it. Not baiting or trolling. No matter the theory or poster it's unethical to demand a poster's ID or confidential sources. Wouldn't you agree? I was surprised that other posters didn't condemn the request - before me - for the preservation of the forum. But, noticed several got on board to attack my post. That is suspicious.

Yes agreed...
And I never mad claims on here from a source that didnt have Websleuths-TOS approved backup.... I may have inside sources but not once have I made claims that come from them..... seems someone is trolling and just wants people to give up sources and that’s now how this works... (I never made a claim from an inside source here...)

that’s why when I pressed Nadal for proof of this,, he couldn’t provide it....

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

If you have confidential sources that’s fine but then don’t post about it and say “ I know blah blah blah but I can’t say how I know this”. It’s not productive at all.

IMO

Is there an example of someone doing this ? Tia

 

[asyousay]

Is there an example of someone doing this ? Tia

Go though some of the old threads and you will see it. Some posters imply they have spoken to the main players and they have inside information but how exactly can they prove what they are saying is true?

 

[Seeker994]

Still what puzzles me the most about this case is the Motive. Who had the most to gain from this...

 

[asyousay]

Still what puzzles me the most about this case is the Motive. Who had the most to gain from this...

Well on paper if we have we have told is true it would be the 3 Graveyard robbers “if” Suzie was going to have to testify.

Then add in one of their reactions when he was arrested and he wished them dead. That points to a lot of hostility and anger.

IMO

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

Still what puzzles me the most about this case is the Motive. Who had the most to gain from this...

Suzie talking to cops scared the associates one-off of the grave robbers,...women needed to be “told to shut up” Stacy enters,,, harder to “control silence“—-they pivot to murder.....

“Silence” is obvious motive...to me

 

[asyousay]

Something was going on with Suzie that night if we are to believe she was under the weather. I think she was under some kind of pressure and she was getting heat from somewhere. She was also reluctant to go home alone.

She is the key to solving this IMO

 

[Seeker994]

Poor Suzie. Ark, if Silence was the motive aside from Garrison who do you think was involved. Larry Hall is imprisoned in my home State. I'm debating on writing to him. Thinking of writing to Garrison too.

 

[Missouri Mule]

Still what puzzles me the most about this case is the Motive. Who had the most to gain from this...

The police have attributed this to sexual assault and specifically said it was not drug related.

We don’t know Sherrill’s whereabouts between the hours of 11:15 PM going forward.

If Sherrill had been assaulted by an unknown stranger, Suzie would not have known who it might have been. She posed no danger to the perp as she could not have told the police anything.

From where I sit, it seems that the benefit was to the perp who committed the crime of sexual assault. He would presumably not wish to leave a living victim. In many cases of a homicide a family member will come home to a house where their loved one is lying dead on the floor. But that didn’t happen. Everyone simply disappeared. He must have believed Suzie might be coming home and would discover Sherrill deceased. That strongly indicates that the perp was as has been said “trusted.” A random stranger would not seen to meet that criteria. (If Sherrill was the victim)

The more likely scenario of a sexual assault was Suzie. As I have said, I see no reason to discount the plausible scenario that someone at the party merely followed her home. He wanted what all young males want at that age. It is impossible to know what he intended to do when he arrived. Perhaps he was just interested in knowing where she lived. But when he arrived, perhaps he decided he wanted his ultimate goal. He lured her out and the conversation was overheard by Sherrill and she too came out.

‘The “trusted” term could simply be the deduction that there was no forcible entry.

A much more powerful male could easily have subdued two much smaller females. He could secure them with zip ties and duct tape. But Stacy also had to be taken once that went down. She was the last one out.

Having said all it is also possible a cop or a fake cop gained access to the home. Was there a cop who had formed a relationship with either Sherrill or Suzie?

 

[ArkansasTimeTraveler]

Poor Suzie. Ark, if Silence was the motive aside from Garrison who do you think was involved. Larry Hall is imprisoned in my home State. I'm debating on writing to him. Thinking of writing to Garrison too.

I don’t think Garrison did the abduction, they would have pinned it on him in a heartbeat if he did....no too easy, but I think he was pals with the crowd who did take them, and worked closely with the abduction leader at some capacity in 1992......

 

[Seeker994]

@Missouri Mule @ArkansasTimeTraveler - I'm curious at both of your opinions on Larry Hall. Larry claims his brother, Gary, stalked Stacey Mcall. Hall also said he would reveal where the bodies were in Mark Twain Forest if offered immunity for the crime. He also stated, "Three of his victims were from Springfield." The YSL claims Hall ran her off the road, which I find hard to believe. Hall was also stated to use chloroform on at least one his crimes. It's only my opinion, but Hall is a rapist, and both Stacey and Suzie fit his "type." If the crime were sexual in nature, I could see it being Hall. He was also 30 when they disappeared. If he was stalking one of the girls, Graduation night, especially when they were headed home seems plausible to me.

 

[asyousay]

There is zero signs of a assault on Sherrill in the home. I know Janelle was absolutely moronic but even she would of struggled to miss a struggle in the home.

Unless this rapist carried around fresh bed linen to hide the fact he was a rapist as we have zero signs of Sherill’s bed being disturbed . You also have to explain away why this raspiest would of waited around hours for Suzie to return when she was not meant to. I am not a rapist but I certainly wouldn’t wait around to get caught by somebody. You would get in and out as soon as possible and we also have no forced entry into the home either.



IMO

 

[asyousay]

The fact Suzie and Stacey were taken points to this all happening when the girls got home.


Suzie had 3 lots of plans change which all lead her being forced home and low and behind she is then kidnapped and murdered. Coincidence I think Not IMO

 

[Seeker994]

I agree @asyousay ! I don't think any assault happened at the house, but if the man "wanted it bad enough" kidnapped them to perform the act somewhere else. There were a lot of plan changes that night, and you know how I feel about JK and her suspicious actions. Lol

 

[Missouri Mule]

@Missouri Mule @ArkansasTimeTraveler - I'm curious at both of your opinions on Larry Hall. Larry claims his brother, Gary, stalked Stacey Mcall. Hall also said he would reveal where the bodies were in Mark Twain Forest if offered immunity for the crime. He also stated, "Three of his victims were from Springfield." The YSL claims Hall ran her off the road, which I find hard to believe. Hall was also stated to use chloroform in at least on his crimes. It's only my opinion, but Hall is a rapist, and both Stacey and Suzie fit his "type." If the crime were sexual in nature, I could see it being Hall. He was also 30 when they disappeared. If he was stalking one of the girls, Graduation night, especially when they were headed home seems plausible to me.

I’m not a big fan of the Larry Hall theory.

Seems I have read that he was somehow eliminated as a suspect. Also why would he pick that home? (Unless he had been stalking the girls)

 

[asyousay]

If one of the girls had a stalker which could be possible then you would wait until whichever one you was stalking was alone.


You also have to contend with the fact both girls drove separately so again if you are a stalker and following one of the women then you why wouldn’t you force one of them off the road? That’s a hell of a lot simple than letting them reach their destination and getting on their own turf.


MOO