MO - Six Mohler family members for child sex crimes, Bates City 2009 #4

  • #181
I stumbled across this thread yesterday and thought the timing was interesting.

MO-THREE Women Missing since 1992 - what happened to Suzy, Stacey and Sherrill? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

On June 7, 1992, Suzy Streeter, Stacey McCall and Sherrill Levitt disappeared from their home right after graduation. Their purses and all their belongings where still in the house and their dog was still in the home. Their cars were parked in the driveway. They have never been found. This is a link which explains what happened:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mccall_stacy.html

I don't know that they are related to this, but the area is good and the times are right. Thought I would throw it out there.
 
  • #182
Late to the table here, folks. But this looks interesting. I've not come across these names before. Thank you, IWannaKnow. I'm going to read up on these girls.

Speaking of the Mohlers, don't we have a court date in a few weeks? I seem to remember that Uncle Darrel of Florida is first. I'm so hopeful we get some questions answered. I'm sure that the victims and their families must be ready to get this thing going.
 
  • #183
I'm not sure what to think. I read through each of the three stories twice and the only possible connections I can see are that Springfield is within a three hour drive of Bates City. In 1992, Burrell Sr. owned the farm house in Bates City. It was not sold the Jr. until 1995. The other thing that concerns me is the sighting of the van. The Mohler girls talk about being raped in a van but IIRC, that van was brown.

It's really quite remarkable how many missing people there are out there.
 
  • #184
  • #185
Thanks for the update, Wintergreen. I'd been checking daily as I thought it was coming up. If I'm not mistaken he's still walking free on bail. I am so hopeful that he's being kept away from the children in that family. I remember when I researched Uncle Darrel, I learned he had a number of children and grandchildren. I believe he was actually in their presence when he was arrested. He struck me as so cocky. I never thought it was a wise move of his to flip off the reporters on camera. That didn't strike me as Christian-like at all. He also lied about several pertinent issues, IIRC.

If anyone has access to the print version of this paper, could you fill us in on any details. Also, are there any ongoing local forums concerning these crimes, does anyone know? Topix was hot for quite a while but it's died down. I'm very curious as to whether any new updates have been posted.
 
  • #186
Thanks Missizzy--I keep wishing I could see a print version of this paper, too. They only give you just enough info to make you want to buy it! I keep forgetting to thank you for bringing up Massimo Introvigne several posts ago. So much there to read!
 
  • #187
  • #188
Hi Wintergreen--It is appalling, isn't it? We have a thread that is following the case:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113979&highlight=missouri+torture

This weekend, we started several new threads about child trafficking--in Chicago, AZ, and MT. I've been trying to post resources for education on each of the sites. Many of the cases involve threats, torture, and violence. One involves a murder.

I have to say that when I read of the MO arrests, I immediately thought of the Mohler men. Does anyone know if these men are linked in anyway ie through employment, family, social organizations or a church? They found each other somehow.

My prayers continue for this horribly unfortunate young woman. May she finally experience tenderness.
 
  • #189
  • #190
Vinelink still shows Roland and Burrell Sr. sitting in the Clay County Jail and Burrell Jr. at the Lafayette County Jail. Man, those family and church members which were initially so supportive sure didn't jump in and bail those three out. Maybe the families and friends were presented with evidence that they just could not ignore.

Is everybody as surprised as I am that these fellows are really planning on going through with a trial? I was just sure that they'd plead. Personally, I really hope there are trials as I believe that trials might bring to light more victims.

Those men have been sitting there for 11 months this week.

As always, my prayers go out to the victims for strength to move forward. They are a brave group, indeed.
 
  • #191
I will be very interested to see how this plays out in court. I would think LE has to have something, but we will see. They are keeping it very well under wraps.
 
  • #192
http://www.newstribune.com/articles/2010/10/13/news_state/nt079state24mohler10.txt

Mohler patriarch moves to top of trial slate


"......the 77-year-old family patriarch is now scheduled to have his day in court first.

Burrell Mohler Sr., of Independence, is facing 21 sex-related counts stemming from claims that he, his four sons and his brother raped at least three young relatives in the mid-1980s at a farm in Lafayette County. Investigators say six siblings have corroborated tales of incest, bestiality and sexual assault against the Mohlers...."

and

"....Burrell Sr., who is scheduled for a Feb. 22 trial date in Clay County on a change of venue, will be the first to have his case tried.

How his case goes -- none of the others is facing nearly the same number of counts as Burrell Sr. -- could have a big impact on the other cases....."


more at link
 
  • #193
I am currently addicted to watching TLC's "Sister Wives", which has created a burning desire in me to understand why the women go along with these principles. That research lead me to this article, which Missizzy may have already seen, posted and given a detailed book report upon, but I had not seen it before and thought it was very interesting - BBM:

http://www.exmormon.org/mormwomn.htm

The Role of Women in Mormonism
by Jessica Longaker
Religious Studies 263
March 27, 1995

Women and Mormonism


Polygamous marriage is basically essential to Mormon theology. Mormon Doctrine states that God was once a human man, and "He is now a glorified, resurrected Personage having a tangible body of flesh and bones" (250). As a matter of fact, "all gods first existed as spirits, came to an earth to receive bodies, and then, after having passed through a period of probation on the aforesaid earth, were advanced to the exalted position they now enjoy" (Hoekema 38). After death, a good Mormon man who has followed a few certain rules is catapulted to this same status and receives his own planet to populate and rule over (Fife 103). To receive this honor, a man must be "married for eternity" in the Mormon temple. This special marriage is binding after death as well as until it.

"Celestial" marriage, as this eternal marriage is often called, is essential for Mormon women. Without being celestially married to a holder of the priesthood, a woman cannot be "saved" (Green 154).

and

In the temple marriage ceremony, women are given secret names known only to their husbands, for identification purposes, so their husbands can pull them through to "the other side" after death (Laake 118). During the marriage ceremony, until 1990, men made their temple covenants directly to God, while the women had to make their temple covenants to their husbands (Laake 328). This means that while male temple workers representing God lead the men through the cloth representing the veil between worlds, husbands, symbolically, lead their wives through. Women also promise to obey their husbands in everything as long as their husbands obey God (Laake 108). As part of the ceremony, women also receive their endowments. These are sacred ordinances and promises which make a person eligible to enter the highest level of heaven, and Mormons receive them on their first visit to the temple (Laake 93). Men usually receive their endowments when they enter the temple to become a priesthood holder or go on a mission, but women enter the temple for the first time to be married.
Or in other words, women do not go to heaven unless they have married and born children to a Mormon priesthood holder, who incidentally can ONLY be male....

and

Obviously, the Mormon church is not going to alter its views on women in the immediate future. It is questionable whether it is even possible for Mormonism to equalize the roles of men and women, because the oppression of women is so integral to the religion. Men and women cannot truly become equal in the church, for the basic tenets of Mormonism are so fraught with sexism that equality would change the religion beyond recognition.
*******************************************************************
much, much more at link
 
  • #194
IWannaKnow--I think I did post an article from that site but not this one. I believe the ones I found had to do with the CTR rings and ex-communication concerning sexual abuse--often of the victim. It was when we were researching the flipping or the spinning of the rings following an assault or a murder which had been reported. OK, here's where we discussed it:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4588316&highlight=exmormon#post4588316

It's on page 22 of the 3rd thread and starts with Post #542. I was posting about "exit stories" which involved sex abuse.

We need to remember, though, that this is an ex-Mormon site and not always unbiased. These articles are written by those disenchanted with the Mormon faith. While I, too, wonder about the subjugation of women, it would be interesting to read a view from the other side of the table.

I can understand girls growing up within the church and understanding their "place" from birth onward. What I've never understood is why so many adult women convert to Mormonism. There are an incredible number of vibrant, bright, empowered Mormon women out in the world. Personally, it confuses me.

And concerning the Mohlers, several were of a much more fundamentalist offshoot of Mormonism--the RLDS. The Community of Christ figures in also--though it seems far more liberal and tolerant.

So, I agree, great reading and insight. Here's a couple of interesting sites which address some of the issues you brought up, by Mormon women (within the faith):

http://mormonwoman.org/

http://www.mormonwomen.com/

It also looks like they've really upgraded the exmormon site since I last looked. Here's their homepage:

http://www.exmormon.org/

"Recovery from Mormonism: A site for those who are questioning their faith in the Mormon Church and for those who need support as they transition their lives to a normal life. We are not affiliated with any religion and we do not advocate any religion."


It's a huge site and states that they have indexed over 650 stories of ex-Mormons. There are forums and bulletin boards and references to "Exmo" conferences. Looks to be an active place.

Hmmm, there's a good overview on Kevin Garn, the Utah House Majority leader who admitted to sexual "relations" with an underage girl and was met with a standing ovation in the House upon his confession. We have a thread on him. Great discussion here, FWIW.
 
  • #195
Not a news update on this case - but a case where a survivor came forward after 30 years! It's said there's a recording of the abuser owning up to the abuse & apologizing...and imagine - the abuser is/was a church elder & "he is a well-liked and very helpful neighbor".....sound familiar?

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/phoenix/church-elder-sex-abuse-case-11042010

ETA: another article - "families were close friends"

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...phoenix/church-elder-accused-of-sex-with-teen
 
  • #196
Wow!! Thirty years is a long time to hold a nasty secret like that. I wonder if the younger man just located the elder and saw that he was still working with children. Or maybe, he just decided enough was enough. He could also have a child the same age he was at the time of the abuse. Life transitions seem to open old wounds.

I posted on another thread about helping an old friend find her childhood abuser last week. He was her teacher (in a Christian school) and we discovered him living only 75 miles away from her now. Big shock, he's a RSO. He molested several little girls after he retired but still volunteered in the classroom. She feels guilt over what might have been prevented but I keep reminding her that when she thinks of the man she's still 12-13. Survivors have such a tendency to regress emotionally back to the age they were at the time of their abuse. Maybe this victim has just now found his voice. My prayers are with him. No doubt others will now have the courage to speak out.

I remember finding these links when we were researching the Garridos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses_and_child_sex_abuse

http://www.silentlambs.org/
 
  • #197
I was doing some research on another thread and found this. I think this could link back to the "flipping rings" the girls talked about after the alleged murder:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/chapter_5.htm

The Illuminati:
How the Cult Programs People

by: Svali
Chapter Five: Colors, Metals and Jewel Programming

Here is how it works: The child is shown a piece of jewelry such as a ring, or else a large example of the jewel (or metal) being put in. They are asked: "isn't this Amethyst, or Ruby, Emerald, Diamond) beautiful?" The child will be eager to look at it, touch it, and is encouraged to by a trainer with a soft kind voice. The trainer will ask the child, "wouldn't you like to be beautiful, like this jewel? (or metal jewelry)". The child is usually eager to be. Here is a sparkling gemstone, placed in their small hands (the training often begins between age two and three). Of course they want to be beautiful, sparkly, valued. The trainer will extol the beauty of the gem (or metal), will tell the child how special, valued, wanted gems are, and basically build up the idea of becoming like a jewel.
The child is then told that in order to become a jewel, they must "earn the right". This involves: a.) passing through steps of discipline (see chapter three) b.) passing "special tests" c.) being rewarded for special achievement
Becoming a jewel (or precious metal) is dangled before the small child, like a carrot, as the reward for doing well in training sessions. The earning of one is linked to going through the rungs of the long, arduous training process expected of Illuminati children; having a jewel or metal involves stepping up in status and being praised. But the price is enduring hours of abuse called "training" but in reality is organized, systemic abuse to make the child do what the trainer wants them to become. Over time, with the help of drugs, hypnosis, shock, and other trauma, as the child goes through it's training process, it will begin earning its jewels and/or metals, one by one. These will become full alters inside.

Much more at this link. I highly suggest reading the whole site.
 
  • #198
That's some disturbing information, IWannaKnow. You might be onto something. The ring-flipping always bothered me. I remember sleuthing that for days. I found CTR (Choose the Right) rings for Mormons which have the capacity to flip or reverse and I also found ones that spin. I've always wondered exactly what the Mohler girls meant when they referred to the ring-flipping. I thought it was something like flipping a coin but now I'm not sure.

Does anyone know the purpose or the significance of flipping or spinning CTR rings?

One wonders if the Mohler men were far more organized in a wicked way than we even suspect. Maybe there were tiers of evil. Your link surely makes me wonder.
 
  • #199
<snip>

Clay County Judge Larry Dale Harman has ruled that the Jackson County Sheriff cannot be the "filtering device" on evidence and ordered the department to release the evidence in a "timely fashion." Lafeyette County Prosecutor Kelly Ritchie Wingate said she received the order Monday.

more here

http://www.kmbc.com/r/26206514/detail.html


I wonder what this is all about??
 
  • #200
Hmmmm. Very interesting. Remember there was some concern that one of the counties might have had a too chummy relationship with one of the men. Can't remember which. Sounds like Jackson County is making some of their own decisions as to what to pass on to other counties. Hope they get pulled up short on that kind of trick. It was Jackson County which served the search warrant on Sr.'s house:

http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2009/11/18/warrant-mo-case-cops-find-🤬🤬🤬🤬-incest-mags1/

Nov. 18, 2009

"....The Jackson County search warrant issued last week after the arrest of Burrell E. Mohler Sr., 77, of Independence, said investigators seized several items from Mohler's home, including four computer towers, several pornographic magazines and books, several DVDs and cameras. Col. Ben Kenney of the Jackson County Sheriff's Department said Wednesday that several booklets found at the home were about incest..."

more at link



I was thinking about this case yesterday and it dawned on me that the three men who had so many supporters who were "standing behind them" last November, are getting ready to spend their SECOND Christmas in jail. Burrell Sr. and Roland are in the Clay County Jail and Burrell Jr. is in the Lafayette County Jail.
 

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