MO MO - St Louis, Miss River, BlkMale 16-30, UP7348, "Amerikus" & "Triple Crown" t-shirt, Sz10 Dickie boots, Star Wars The Phantom Menace watch, Jun'07

[YaYa_521]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

1217UMMO

1217UMMO - Unidentified Male​

Date of Discovery: June 13, 2007
Location of Discovery: St. Louis, Missouri
Estimated Date of Death: Months prior
State of Remains: Decomposed
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description​

Estimated Age: 16-30 years old
Race: Black
Sex: Male
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 159 lbs.
Hair: Short black curly hair; no facial hair.
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Healed fracture of right arm, no distinctive marks, no tattoos

Identifiers​

Dentals: Available; Natural teeth, evidence of routine care.
Fingerprints: Available.
DNA: Pending.

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Dark T-shirt over a blue T-Shirt with Amerikus and Triple Crown logo; blue jeans, with belt. Dickies lace-up boots, size 10. White tube socks.
Jewelry: Plastic wristwatch with Star Wars The Phantom Menace logo and graphic. (Inexpensive and handed out by Burger King restaurants years prior).
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery​

On June 13th, 2007 the decomposed body of the decedent was recovered from the Mississippi River, at Arsenal Street. The body was discovered by members of a tug boat crew who saw the body floating in the Mississippi River.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: St. Louis City Medical Examiner's Office
Agency Contact Person: Kelly Allmeyer
Agency Phone Number: 314-622-4971 or 314-622-4975
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 2007-1244

Agency Name: Missouri State Highway Patrol
Agency Contact Person: Clara Land
Agency Phone Number: 573-526-6178
Agency Fax Number: 573-526-5577
Agency E-Mail: Clara.Land(at)mshp.dps.mo.gov or cland(at)mocic.riss.net
Agency Case Number: 2007-1244

NCIC Case Number: U850020220
NamUs Case Number:
Former Hot Case Number: 805

Information Source(s)​

NamUs
St. Louis City Medical Examiners Office

Admin Notes​

Added: 10/29/07; Last Updated: 4/14/18

 

[BrownBear]

3 Exclusions
MP95956 Jesus Rodriguez 01/23/2005 Yakima WA
MP24143 John Wright 06/24/2001 Lincoln MO
MP11602 Robert Costello, Jr 07/01/1999 St. Louis MO

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Hochman]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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Larger version of sketch

 

[Beccalicious]

Bumping

 

[Aurora90]

I am linking my post from Damian Kinte Dill - Websleuths Thread below.

There is a strong possibility that Damian is 2007 St Louis John Doe. This John Doe was found floating in the Mississippi River. Seeing as Damian was originally a resident of Compton, California and was thinking of going to Florida, it is clear he was very mobile. On top of that, the resemblance is incredibly striking.

I have sent this tip along to the Montgomery Police Department, and also sent this tip to Clara Land who is the Criminal Intelligence Analyst for the Missing Persons Unit in the Missouri State Highway Patrol.

 

[Aurora90]

River Man case frustrates police
The fact that no one has called leads Gieseke, the city police captain, to believe the man isn't from the St. Louis area. But investigators can't necessarily focus on river towns to the north.

"Bodies can get caught up in a vacuum underneath barges and be carried upriver," Gieseke said. "The river can be a place that hides a lot of secrets."

Vize's sketch shows the man with a slight smile, something Vize did on purpose so he could show the man's teeth. Because of decomposition, the teeth were one of the few "knowns," Vize said. Vize hopes it can solve the case.

"I'm pretty confident it will look just like this guy," Vize said. "I just try to calculate what the guy would look like in life."

I am certain this is Damian, and I think Sgt. Vize did an amazing job at the recon. (He tragically committed suicide years later, may he RIP)

I hope we find out either way one day soon.

 

[Aurora90]

the Triple Crown shirt is a California sports team. Damian is from Compton California.

Triple Crown Softball Apparel -TCS

Bingo. This is Damian.

 

[cyberpanda]

The watch was released in 2005, trying to track down a more specific time period. Usually fast food toys are only available for about a month at a time.
Edit: I believe these were released in the promotional period when Revenge of the Sith was released in theaters. The movie was released May 2005, and Burger King had a Star Wars toy line that summer. The watch was likely available during the same period

 

[azure]

the Triple Crown shirt is a California sports team. Damian is from Compton California.

Triple Crown Softball Apparel -TCS

View attachment 523757

Bingo. This is Damian.

This doesn't seem to account for the "Amerikus" logo?

Might be a custom screen-printed T-Shirt from this company, Triple Crown Products, which was established in 1984 in Wisconsin. Seems like it could be more likely since the UID was found in the Midwest.

Triple Crown Products Quality | Logo Products | Branded Merch

Showcase your brand with Triple Crown Products’ quality logo products & branded merch. From apparel to gifts, create lasting impressions. Discover more.

triplecrownproducts.com

 

[Aurora90]

This doesn't seem to account for the "Amerikus" logo?

Might be a custom screen-printed T-Shirt from this company, Triple Crown Products, which was established in 1984 in Wisconsin. Seems like it could be more likely since the UID was found in the Midwest.

Triple Crown Products Quality | Logo Products | Branded Merch

Showcase your brand with Triple Crown Products’ quality logo products & branded merch. From apparel to gifts, create lasting impressions. Discover more.

triplecrownproducts.com

I posted about Amerikus in Damian's thread. It is also linked to Montgomery Alabama. and also Florida.

 

[Aurora90]

This case has really been bugging me so I sent a follow up email. I'll update if I hear back. I just think there's too many similarities to ignore, if I am being honest.

2007 St Louis John Doe is a black male, between 20-30, 5'10", 150 lbs, He was wearing Dickies boots, blue jeans, and a T-shirt with the Triple Crown logo. He also had an old healed fracture on his right forearm, and detectives noted the unusual detail of a kid’s watch on his wrist.

Damian was a black male, 20 years old, approximately 6'0 tall and 150 pounds according to NamUs.

Then when comparing the John Doe sketch to a photo of Damian Dill, IMHO the similarities are striking.

Lastly, Amerikus (the name on the shirt) is the name of an individual who when she was young, lived with her mother. She now lives elsewhere. But at that time, her mother worked for the United States Airforce out of Montgomery Alabama. That is a lot of commonalities for me to think it's a coincidence.

 

[Hochman]

Have you seen this child? John Saint Louis Doe 2007

Missing From: Saint Louis, MO. Missing Date: June 13, 2007. On 6/13/2007, the remains of an unidentified black male were recovered from the Mississippi River near Eads Bridge in Saint Louis, Missouri. It is estimated he had been deceased for several months prior to discovery. The young man had...

www.missingkids.org

Reconstruction

Watches

 

[Aurora90]

Good morning,
Thank you for the information. We will look into this.
Respectfully,

Saint Louis Metropolitan Police Department
Bureau of Investigative Services — Homicide Section

SLMPD has confirmed they will look into this.

 

[iulia]

His NamUs page is down at the moment.

 

[Aurora90]

Wow! I wonder if he really was Damian all along?

 

[Aurora90]

I asked for an update from the detective who said he would look into this:

Good Afternoon!

It appears the NamUs profile for this John Doe has been removed!

Has there been a resolution? If so that makes my heart very happy!!


I have often thought of this John Doe and tried to advocate for him for a while now. I hope the family who have been missing this person receives a resolution in 2026. Was he confirmed to be Damian Dill?

Thank you very much for looking into this Seargent <REDACTED>.

Will there be a public announcement I should keep an eye out for?

I look forward to an update on this case.

Thank you, and God Bless.

I promptly received this reply:

Good evening,

We are still working this case and there is no update to give at this time. Once there is I will let you know.

Respectfully,

******* **********
Saint Louis Metropolitan Police Department
Bureau of Investigative Services
Homicide Section
1915 Olive Street
Saint Louis, Missouri 63103
314.444.5371

 

[Aurora90]

Interesting. So no update at this time, but he has been removed from NamUs.

Sounds like they might be waiting to make a public announcement.

I hope the family of this individual are all finally able to properly grieve this person, knowing that a resolution has been achieved. As bittersweet as it is.

Whoever this John Doe is, I hope he can now rest easy.

 

[iulia]

I wonder he was identified as Marcoe Hollman, who was removed from NamUs today. His DLC on NamUs was 8/1/2007 but it sounds from the circumstances that the date may not be very accurate.

MO Thread 'MO- Marcoe Wayman Hollman, 36, St. Louis, 2 Dec 2007'

Jul 31, 2024

Marcoe is not listed at NAMUS

https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/mpphotos/A1001001A23B27B40449H553091.pdf

Marcoe Wayman Hollman – The Charley Project

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Hollman, circa 2007

• Missing Since 12/02/2007
• Missing From St. Louis, Missouri
• Classification Missing
• Sex Male
• Race Black
• Date of Birth 04/30/1971 (53)
• Age 36 years old
• Height and Weight 5'11, 170 pounds...

• Pennysmom1
• Replies: 3
• Forum: 2000's Missing

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[Aurora90]

I wonder he was identified as Marcoe Hollman, who was removed from NamUs today. His DLC on NamUs was 8/1/2007 but it sounds from the circumstances that the date may not be very accurate.

MO Thread 'MO- Marcoe Wayman Hollman, 36, St. Louis, 2 Dec 2007'

Jul 31, 2024

Marcoe is not listed at NAMUS

https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/mpphotos/A1001001A23B27B40449H553091.pdf

Marcoe Wayman Hollman – The Charley Project

• 

Hollman, circa 2007

• Missing Since 12/02/2007
• Missing From St. Louis, Missouri
• Classification Missing
• Sex Male
• Race Black
• Date of Birth 04/30/1971 (53)
• Age 36 years old
• Height and Weight 5'11, 170 pounds...

• Pennysmom1
• Replies: 3
• Forum: 2000's Missing

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• 

That makes sense! Well don’t I feel silly now.

Either way, I am glad that someone is coming home.

 

[iulia]

That makes sense! Well don’t I feel silly now.

Either way, I am glad that someone is coming home.

Hey, don't you feel silly. I was just posting a possibility, your tip may still be correct. I hope the detective will let you know when they are able to share more information about this case.