Found Deceased MO - Titus Tackett, 3, Killarney Shores, 10 Feb 2016

  • #301
Was there anyone else with the grandfather in the home while the parents were out?
 
  • #302
I was wondering if there was any connection between the grandfather's home and the home where Titus was found, according to this source that is not the case:

Snipped from article from this link, BBM: http://dailyjournalonline.com/news/...cle_c5e57589-da86-54a0-9286-4f8aca369171.html

“At this point it’s too early to determine exactly how he got out of the house and how he ended up where he was,” Medley said. “That’s why the investigation is going to continue at this time with the highway patrol, FBI and Iron County Sheriff’s Department working in cooperation.”

He added that at this point there appears to be no relationship between the van’s owners and Tackett’s family. He also noted that the boy’s death appears to be an isolated incident..."

If someone put Titus in the van (and I think this is what most likely happened), that was pretty gutsy to just walk up to a house, open someone's van door, and place a deceased child inside, with dogs running loose on the property...didn't they bark? The van was parked literally right next to the house (Collins/72), which doesn't appear to be very large, and the house is set back off the road a ways. The rural folks in my area are always aware when someone approaches their property, especially at night. However, if I were someone that lived at that home, or frequented the home, I wouldn't be worried about those things.

Then I got to thinking, do we really know that the van was parked at the Collins/72 house when Titus entered it, either himself or by someone else putting him in it? I think it's just been assumed that the van had been parked at the home all night. What if it hadn't been? What if the van was somewhere else when Titus entered it? To me it actually makes more sense that it WASN'T parked at the home under the homeowner's watch, unless of course it was someone in that home or familiar with that home that put him in there.

I'm just thinking of different scenarios, IF Titus entered the van at a location other than the Collins/72 home. For example, if someone driving the van was visiting a home two or three doors down from Titus's gf house, it would be more believable to me that Titus would wander out and find his way into the van at that short distance. Or, if someone driving the van happened to be out running the same "errands" as the mom/bf, Titus could have been slipped into the back of the van unnoticed. I'm not blaming anyone, just thinking of other possibilities. It's likely that the van really was parked in front of Collins/72 the whole time, but imo that doesn't look good for the residents of that property and/or owner of the van. Especially if there is no known relationship between Collins/72 residents and Titus's gf/family.

Anxious to hear the autopsy results!
 
  • #303
Has it been reported where the mother and her ex boyfriend went during the time Titus went missing? And was Titus the son of the ex boyfriend? TIA.
 
  • #304
[video=twitter;697766064382484480]https://twitter.com/chrisregniertv/status/697766064382484480[/video]

OMG my heart breaks! What a sweet sweet face :cry: Fly with the other angels little one!
 
  • #305
Re BBM

Good point about the height of the handle. Im now wondering if the boy could even reach the handle on that Van. If we had exact dimensions of the height of the handle and height of the boy then with average arm length of a child that old we may be able to guess if the height of the handle would be reachable.

The news yesterday was coming in so quickly I am not sure if I caught whether they found him in the area behind the front seats or not. And we would have to know the make and model of the van which I don't know if we could even determine that from the pictures we saw of the Van in the distance.

I suppose its a mute point because there would always be the possibility that he jumped up to try to reach handle so its probably not worth trying to figure any of the dimensions of vans door handles.

bbm

I doubt that. In those temperatures he wouldn't even have felt his feet anymore. Or his fingers. I doubt very much he went by himself into that van unless the van door was already open.
 
  • #306
Has it been reported where the mother and her ex boyfriend went during the time Titus went missing? And was Titus the son of the ex boyfriend? TIA.

Hello Zuri,
Some sort of shopping for errands is what we have been told. As far as the family dynamics it is pretty complicated and all I can say is FB can help in cases so long as everything is taken with a grain of salt.
 
  • #307
I was wondering if there was any connection between the grandfather's home and the home where Titus was found, according to this source that is not the case:

Snipped from article from this link, BBM: http://dailyjournalonline.com/news/...cle_c5e57589-da86-54a0-9286-4f8aca369171.html

“At this point it’s too early to determine exactly how he got out of the house and how he ended up where he was,” Medley said. “That’s why the investigation is going to continue at this time with the highway patrol, FBI and Iron County Sheriff’s Department working in cooperation.”

He added that at this point there appears to be no relationship between the van’s owners and Tackett’s family. He also noted that the boy’s death appears to be an isolated incident..."

If someone put Titus in the van (and I think this is what most likely happened), that was pretty gutsy to just walk up to a house, open someone's van door, and place a deceased child inside, with dogs running loose on the property...didn't they bark? The van was parked literally right next to the house (Collins/72), which doesn't appear to be very large, and the house is set back off the road a ways. The rural folks in my area are always aware when someone approaches their property, especially at night. However, if I were someone that lived at that home, or frequented the home, I wouldn't be worried about those things.

Then I got to thinking, do we really know that the van was parked at the Collins/72 house when Titus entered it, either himself or by someone else putting him in it? I think it's just been assumed that the van had been parked at the home all night. What if it hadn't been? What if the van was somewhere else when Titus entered it? To me it actually makes more sense that it WASN'T parked at the home under the homeowner's watch, unless of course it was someone in that home or familiar with that home that put him in there.

I'm just thinking of different scenarios, IF Titus entered the van at a location other than the Collins/72 home. For example, if someone driving the van was visiting a home two or three doors down from Titus's gf house, it would be more believable to me that Titus would wander out and find his way into the van at that short distance. Or, if someone driving the van happened to be out running the same "errands" as the mom/bf, Titus could have been slipped into the back of the van unnoticed. I'm not blaming anyone, just thinking of other possibilities. It's likely that the van really was parked in front of Collins/72 the whole time, but imo that doesn't look good for the residents of that property and/or owner of the van. Especially if there is no known relationship between Collins/72 residents and Titus's gf/family.

Anxious to hear the autopsy results!


Good thinking.

bold and underlined - wouldn't the dogs also alert if Titus had approached the property and opened the van door? A van door makes a noise, doesn't it?

And with the van right next to the house, wouldn't Titus have knocked on the door first?

ETA: maybe he did knock and nobody heard him? :(
 
  • #308
definitely food for thought julyruby. good post!
 
  • #309
This news link has a good picture of the Van. Some interesting snippets from the news article below.
Got to thinking about this some more. Why would they assume he wandered off if all they saw was the front door open when they got back? I think I would assume someone came in the house and took him if I saw my door wide open.

"Sgt. Clark Parrott said they plan to learn more about exactly how the boy died when the autopsy is finished.
Still, those who joined the search on Wednesday morning say things just don't add up. "

"His family told police he was last seen at the family's home after midnight on Tuesday, wearing only a diaper.
According to Coroner Tony Cole, his mother said he had wandered off.
"

http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/3118...issing-iron-co-toddler-found-in-van-near-home
 
  • #310
Oh my goodness, Poor little Titus. I have a three year old boy who doesn't quite get yet (thankfully) how to open or close car doors. His 4 year old brother on the other hand.....god help me.

Anyway, I feel that this case bears some resemblance to the Brendan Creato case that happened late last year in NJ. He was just a bit older, supposedly got out of his father's apartment, walked over a mile by himself and just "laid down and died" at a park. It took the coroner quite awhile to come out with a COD. But now his father has finally been arrested and I from my recollection, they are alleging that he killed Brendan because his teenager girlfriend did not like children. The similarities I am wondering about are how these little boys supposedly got out of the house on their own in the middle of the night, walked quite a while in pretty cold weather, and were found deceased soon after they were reported missing.

RIP Titus. :(

Yes very similar. The dad wasn't exactly a criminal mastermind in that case. The child had clean socks on and was found down a muddy hill halfway into a stream. Also dad had posted numerous pictures of the exact location his son was found on SM as he considered the spot to be "spiritual".

Seems like we will have some answers for little Titus soon. As others correctly pointed out lets hear about the feet, more details about the blanket, and most importantly the cause of death. Hearing there are no obvious signs of death just rules out very obvious stuff like no huge wounds. The coroner will be able to see things others might have missed. I am still on the fence about this case. It seems like quite a journey for a kid to make in the freezing cold barefoot, but we will have more details very soon. As is often the case LE hasn't really told us much of anything yet so I don't want to rush to judgement beyond saying neither foul play nor terrible accident would surprise me at this time.
 
  • #311
random question, is killarney lake frozen over?
 
  • #312
Has a map been made of where he went missing and where he was found? I'm wondering if he supposedly walked down a road or across a field?

Wondering if where he was found was driven by on the errand his parents went on.

Poor little guy. I have a hard time believing he would make it off the front porch in those temps before going right back in.


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  • #313
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Chris Regnier (@chrisregniertv) tweeted at 8:05am - 11 Feb 16:

3 yr old Titus Tackett's cousin says family hopes autopsy today to bring answers about what happened to little boy. pic.twitter.com/aXoRPkxNAM
https://twitter.com/chrisregniertv/status/697813818349498368?s=17

(Duplicate tweet - my apologies)

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  • #315
random question, is killarney lake frozen over?

I'm not sure WR, but I know our local lake here in Kentucky was frozen over last week. My brother couldn't get his pontoon loose because of the ice. He said it was bank to bank.
 
  • #316
Has a map been made of where he went missing and where he was found? I'm wondering if he supposedly walked down a road or across a field?

Wondering if where he was found was driven by on the errand his parents went on.

Poor little guy. I have a hard time believing he would make it off the front porch in those temps before going right back in.


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JMO
I agree with you. NOT only was it freezing outside, it was dark. I know of few if ANY 3 yr olds that enjoy wandering around the house in the dark. So I find it hard to believe the he would have just curiously (I understand at his age his curiosity would be in full effect but due to the circumstances of weather and the time of day I cant imagine it being possible.) walked outside in the dark of night and traveled as far as he did in such a short amount of time, although I understand anything is feasible. JMO
 
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  • #319
I was wondering if there was any connection between the grandfather's home and the home where Titus was found, according to this source that is not the case:

Snipped from article from this link, BBM: http://dailyjournalonline.com/news/...cle_c5e57589-da86-54a0-9286-4f8aca369171.html

“At this point it’s too early to determine exactly how he got out of the house and how he ended up where he was,” Medley said. “That’s why the investigation is going to continue at this time with the highway patrol, FBI and Iron County Sheriff’s Department working in cooperation.”

He added that at this point there appears to be no relationship between the van’s owners and Tackett’s family. He also noted that the boy’s death appears to be an isolated incident..."

If someone put Titus in the van (and I think this is what most likely happened), that was pretty gutsy to just walk up to a house, open someone's van door, and place a deceased child inside, with dogs running loose on the property...didn't they bark? The van was parked literally right next to the house (Collins/72), which doesn't appear to be very large, and the house is set back off the road a ways. The rural folks in my area are always aware when someone approaches their property, especially at night. However, if I were someone that lived at that home, or frequented the home, I wouldn't be worried about those things.

Then I got to thinking, do we really know that the van was parked at the Collins/72 house when Titus entered it, either himself or by someone else putting him in it? I think it's just been assumed that the van had been parked at the home all night. What if it hadn't been? What if the van was somewhere else when Titus entered it? To me it actually makes more sense that it WASN'T parked at the home under the homeowner's watch, unless of course it was someone in that home or familiar with that home that put him in there.

I'm just thinking of different scenarios, IF Titus entered the van at a location other than the Collins/72 home. For example, if someone driving the van was visiting a home two or three doors down from Titus's gf house, it would be more believable to me that Titus would wander out and find his way into the van at that short distance. Or, if someone driving the van happened to be out running the same "errands" as the mom/bf, Titus could have been slipped into the back of the van unnoticed. I'm not blaming anyone, just thinking of other possibilities. It's likely that the van really was parked in front of Collins/72 the whole time, but imo that doesn't look good for the residents of that property and/or owner of the van. Especially if there is no known relationship between Collins/72 residents and Titus's gf/family.

Anxious to hear the autopsy results!

This would certainly explain how he got so far. But wouldn't the van have been warm in that case? And while that might not be enough to prevent hypothermia in the end, you'd think it would have been warm enough to help a bit ... maybe delay it?

idk. This little guy just wrenches at my heart. I hope his family gets answers quickly.
 
  • #320
Has a map been made of where he went missing and where he was found? I'm wondering if he supposedly walked down a road or across a field?

Wondering if where he was found was driven by on the errand his parents went on.

Poor little guy. I have a hard time believing he would make it off the front porch in those temps before going right back in.


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Re BBM

Yes. JulyRuby was kind enough to post a map showing beginning and ending location after some of us were able to figure out where things were located. Its in Post 249 in the thumbnail picture at the bottom of that post. (link below)
The Pink X is the starting location and the Blue X is the ending location.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...n-Tackett-3-Lake-Killarney-10-Feb-2016/page17
 

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