Moorers' Bond Hearing - #2

[PeterThomasFan]

SM not bonding out right away is not helping their defense IMO in that it doesn't look like they are a unit. Maybe that's why TM went for a visit today. Knowing that there was some issue with his paperwork.

Doesn't make sense though. SM is the one that motioned for a bond reconsideration. Think Truslow would have had things in order for him?

He also said his parents are well-respected and were capable of helping with bond.


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[Unykorn&Reignbeaus]

When I looked here it still shows them both incarcerated. It also shows a bond amount for TM, but on SM it shows no bail set. Strange!

 

[EmmaRose]

Can you imagine living with that nightmare after she's been locked up for
nearly a year? No wonder he hasn't bonded out - he'd probably rather stay in prison.

Imagine that? Nooooooooooo and she's hot on his trail already ........

 

[EmmaRose]

I keep searching the news sites and am dying to know if SM has bonded out yet or not. Can't find anything on it. Anyone know how to figure it out? For those of you that might get grossed out easily...just imagine tonight after almost a year without.....

Guys, just think!! More IE charges in the works!! Double yuck.

 

[rtjedarling]

Do you think TM felt the need to ensure control over SM again asap one reason she visited with her made up svelte self. After all SMs family had opportunity to access him without her around for a year now. She is not to be bested by anyone. Did you noticed when she blurted out in court it seemed to throw her atty off, took him a while to collect himself again. He knows he has a mess on his hands. I think she is a dangerous person.

 

[SStarr33]

Does the solicitor here at the beginning say that he is not confident?

http://www.wbtw.com/story/27990451/horry-county-solicitor-responds-to-moorer-bond-being-set

 

[rtjedarling]

Do you think TM felt the need to ensure control over SM again asap one reason she visited with her made up svelte self. After all SMs family had opportunity to access him without her around for a year now. She is not to be bested by anyone. Did you noticed when she blurted out in court it seemed to throw her atty off, took him a while to collect himself again. He knows he has a mess on his hands. I think she is a dangerous person.

blurted out in court she had been offered the same deal to spill on SM and walk. I think she wanted SM and others to know she had opportunity to do that but didn't take it. It's like - I love you baby, I'm hanging in there for you baby, I'm skinny and purty again, we can go back to the good old days, everything like it use to be, just come back my love- but don't you rat me out!

 

[SStarr33]

Here is an article where it says Elder got a report from the FBI about the vehicle.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/19/4777318/testimony-weaves-tale-of-lives.html#.VM2pFFqkRSU

Would she lie about something like this?

 

[stillwatersc]

It won't be long. Valentine's Day is coming up, I remember TM's social media party last year, the chocolates, the liquor and the whip and handcuffs. I wish I had a screen shot of that photo. Little did we know how the handcuffs were being used.

Was the Hot Topic dressing room part of that discussion? uke:

 

[EmmaRose]

Do you think TM felt the need to ensure control over SM again asap one reason she visited with her made up svelte self. After all SMs family had opportunity to access him without her around for a year now. She is not to be bested by anyone. Did you noticed when she blurted out in court it seemed to throw her atty off, took him a while to collect himself again. He knows he has a mess on his hands. I think she is a dangerous person.

Yes, I do. Perhaps the cold shoulder from SM at the hearing prompted her visit to get much needed reassurance from Sidney that he was still interested in her and test her ability to manipulate him to suit her purposes. As well, I agree with other posters that she enjoys the media spotlight. It was her 'red carpet' moment, which she milked to publicly gloat about her freedom, thumbing her nose at the world. She had to go to great lengths to achieve a more youthful look as opposed to how she presented in court just yesterday. In my view, she wants everyone to know 'Tammy still got it'. I think she also wants to give the impression that she and lover boy's relationship is still tight. IMO, her insecure and controlling nature is a very dangerous combination.

 

[nosysw]

I wish we could see a picture of her visiting today (I'm sure much makeup was evident as opposed to yesterday)...

 

[stillwatersc]

"Monckton feels the biggest challenge for the state will be taking the evidence they do have, and making it line up just right. "If A goes to B, and B goes to C, and C goes to D, and there can be no other path but that," Monckton added.

He said the challenge for the defense would be to prove the opposite. Monckton noted, "to show that there is no evidence, it's pure speculation."
Monckton says if the state cannot get over the point of speculation, the defense could ask for a directed verdict. "Then, the judge will be put in the position that he's going to have to grant a directed verdict which would be a directed verdict of not guilty," Monckton said.

If this case went to a directed verdict, that means a jury would not hear this case, and it would be solely Judge Dennis making that decision.

The trial is scheduled to start in May." http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/27990...ted-to-sidney-tammy-moorer?clienttype=generic

....and I think it's safe to assume that this judge may already be leaning that way?

Personally -I would hate for all of this to end that way.

http://www.scnow.com/opinion/article_d5352b01-28a9-56fc-a3a7-3b6e1f21e437.html#facebook-comments

I have a family member who was very involved with the Teresa Hanna murder case in Florence County. The state trial ended with a devastating directed verdict. Teresa's brother wrote:

I watched the jury and I knew Ed had the case won. It shocked me when the judge refused to allow the jury to decide the case. After the trial I spoke with several jurors who informed me they would have convicted the Hannas.

A "directed verdict" is a possibility. If there is no evidence of Heather's death, maybe the prosecution should just go for the kidnapping charge and hold off on murder in case a body is found. Justice for Heather!

 

[jillycat]

Does the solicitor here at the beginning say that he is not confident?

http://www.wbtw.com/story/27990451/horry-county-solicitor-responds-to-moorer-bond-being-set

I thought he said he can't say he's confident.

?

But the kicker is this:

"Richardson says this is not a case about DNA evidence.
"Circumstantial evidence is just as good as direct evidence; it is a series of events that have been put together to come to one conclusion,” he said.

Yet, back in Feb 2014, LE said this:
"Capt. Dale Buchanan with Horry County Police said, "We have evidence that will be processed with us. SLED is assisting us with processing some of the forensic evidence. Is some of that evidence DNA? Yes."
http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/24804641/hcpd-couple-to-be-charged-with-murder-of-heather-elvis

I remembered them saying they had DNA. So the defense remarks about Heather's DNA from her own car being the DNA in question surprised me. But now we have the solicitor admitting DNA is not part of the picture.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Unles the prosection can prove the Moorers killed Heather, beyond all reasonable doubt, the Moorers need to be acquitted. None of this "Well they obviously did it but even though the prosection doesn't have much of a case, it would be great if they were still convicted".

 

[jillycat]

Unles the prosection can prove the Moorers killed Heather, beyond all reasonable doubt, the Moorers need to be acquitted. None of this "Well they obviously did it but even though the prosection doesn't have much of a case, it would be great if they were still convicted".

It may never get to trial.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

It may never get to trial.

After the fallout from yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised if some or all charges relating to the Elvis case were dropped.

 

[Rochestergirl]

Prosecutors if they don't come up with more evidence should drop charges until they have found HE or found witnesses or some evidence. If they proceed I'm afraid these 2 murders will never pay for what they have done once found not guilty if HE's discovered later they can not try them again. Charges can be brought against them once evidence is actually collected and enough to convict. I also agree with some previous posters asking Why haven't they been searching more to find HE when their case is weak? Also was that search a week or so ago a last minute effort to try to find some new evidence?

 

[OkieGranny]

Here is an article where it says Elder got a report from the FBI about the vehicle.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/03/19/4777318/testimony-weaves-tale-of-lives.html#.VM2pFFqkRSU

Would she lie about something like this?

Here's exactly what it says:

The video surveillance of the vehicle was sent to the FBI in Quantico, Va., and to the S.C. Highway Patrol’s Multi-Disciplinary Accident Investigation Team with a request to identify the vehicle, Elder said. The agencies sent reports that the truck was a dark 2013 or 2014 Ford F-150, with silver toolbox in the bed, a moon roof, silver rims and high-end bulbs in the headlights.

MAIT Team investigators learned there were 82 such trucks registered to owners living in Horry County, so they went and visually inspected 81 trucks, Elder said. The last of those trucks was owned by the Moorers, so police got a search warrant and executed it on Feb. 21.

Defense attorneys dispute that the video of the truck could connect the couple to the case.

 

[Dr. Know?]

One of the strong points was the ruling out of the black trucks in that style and year. FBI ruled out 81 other vehicle owners in the county, I believe or state? Well, defense would come back with a owner of the same exact truck with the same exact tool box that visits his daughter twice a year in the area...they don't have to prove it though, just insinuate it during trial. gah, I dislike law somedays. The prosecution has to prove otherwise, which we all know. Gosh, AZlawyer is a wealth of information here at ws. She's currently on the Jodi Arias case. Hope she comes here. I'll ask. Any lawyers from SC area here?

 

[jillycat]

One of the strong points was the ruling out of the black trucks in that style and year. FBI ruled out 81 other vehicle owners in the county, I believe or state? Well, defense would come back with a owner of the same exact truck with the same exact tool box that visits his daughter twice a year in the area...they don't have to prove it though, just insinuate it during trial. gah, I dislike law somedays. The prosecution has to prove otherwise, which we all know. Gosh, AZlawyer is a wealth of information here at ws. She's currently on the Jodi Arias case. Hope she comes here. I'll ask. Any lawyers from SC area here?

That's the problem with strictly circumstantial evidence. By nature, it creates the possibility for other scenarios, and according to Truslow, he's already given the court 5 other scenarios of what could have happened. I can see why the Solicitor said he can't say he's confident. He's not.