More Than 1,000 Dead Birds Fall From Arkansas Sky

[Soulmagent]

If the birds flew over an oklahoma meth lab and fainted mid air and then fell to their deaths how would they decided if the death happened mid air or not?

I know meth would show up but I dont believe that anyway it just amused me for a second.



Your dead fish idea is way better than my meth lab fly over.
I do not know how long it takes for a bird to empty it stomach. Or how the would detect stuff in the blood supply of a bird.

 

[belimom]

I like the poisonous gas theory. I just read that birds are also dying in Sweden.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40921795/ns/us_news-environment/

wm

Um.... Arkansas, Louisiana, and Sweden? And that article also says Kentucky. And all within a few days of each other?

So Southern U.S.... and Sweden. Hmmm. I'm stumped. :waitasec:

 

[IWannaKnow]

Uh huh. This is worrisome IMO.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/n...not-cause-of-mass-bird-deaths-in-Swedish-town

Disease not cause of mass bird deaths in Swedish town
Jan 6, 2011, 11:12 GMT

Stockholm - The recent mass death of a flock of birds in a small Swedish town was not caused by disease or infection, the National Veterinary Institute said Thursday.

Autopsies performed on five birds suggested they had died of massive internal bleeding, likely caused by some form of physical violence, the institute's Marianne Elvander said.

So, massive internal bleeding, the same as the birds from Arkansas. I'm starting to lean Bessies direction, that the recent storms picked up something from the Gulf, it was in the air as the storm passed through and rained down on the birds and dropped into the water where the fish kills are. I don't really understand weather patterns, but it seems sensible to me that that could have made it up to Sweden on the jet stream. Do we have a meteorologist in the house? I'm still confused about how it is only affecting certain species though. Also, how can they say physical violence? The early reports said some of the dead birds had no external damage at all.....

Incidently, WOW, those Swedes are fast!

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/section/6/article/43915/
UGA determining cause of mysterious bird deaths in South
Fireworks, power lines believed to have killed blackbirds in Ark., La.
By Tricia L. Nadolny
[email protected]

POSTED: January 5, 2011 11:00 p.m.

Keel said the first birds to arrive at the university have undergone postmortem examinations and appear to have lesions and signs of trauma, possibly from hitting telephone wires or the ground.

But he said suggesting a cause would be just speculation at this time and further tests are necessary.

"The lesions that we see are basically just ruptures of livers and hemorrhage in the body. That's all consistent with the birds flying into something or being pushed by the wind into something at significant speed," he said.

"There could be some other disease going on at the same time or it could be something that predisposed them to fly erratically into these things."

I want to know what kind of external trauma is being seen. I presume all the birds died of liver rupture, and if they have no external trauma I don't think you could say it was from flying into something. :twocents: Wouldn't "dying of fright" be more like a heart attack than a ruptured liver???

ETA: The reports I've seen have said the birds stomaches were EMPTY. So that lets the tainted fish theory out as far as I can see. Plus, it has been stated that the dogs and cats munched on the birds in AR, but at the fish kills the birds will not eat the fish, so hmmmmmm.

 

[IWannaKnow]

HAARP is not sooooo far fetched, nor new:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Hero_State_Park

In 1958 a Semi Automatic Ground Environment (SAGE) radar system was installed at what was now known as the Montauk Air Force Station and the facility was merged into the national air defense network. The equipment included a huge AN/FPS-35 radar antenna, built by Sperry. The reflector was 126 feet (38 m) long and 38 feet (12 m) tall, weighing 40 tons, and was supposedly only the second ever built. It was able to detect airborne objects at distances of well over 200 miles (320 km). It also used "frequency diversity" technology making it resistant to electronic countermeasures. The site was under the command of the Air Force with Sperry personnel operating and maintaining the actual radar equipment. Radar data collected at the site was sent to the SAGE Direction Center located at Hancock Field, a small Air Force installation in Syracuse, New York that coordinated inputs from SAGE radars all over the northeastern United States.

The AN/FPS-35 radar system was so powerful that it disrupted local TV and radio broadcasts, and had to be shut down several times and re-calibrated. The problems were later resolved.

 

[IWannaKnow]

http://www.wlwt.com/r/26378264/detail.html

Hundreds Of Dead Birds Found On Ky. Campus
Similar Die-offs Found
POSTED: 2:33 pm EST January 5, 2011

MURRAY, Ky. -- State wildlife officials said "several hundred" dead birds were found near the Murray State University campus last week.

They said grackles, red wing blackbirds, robins and starlings were among the dead animals.

Yeah, more birdicidal power lines:

http://www.paducahsun.com/local-news/todays-news/435590-power-lines-suspected-in-bird-deaths

Power lines suspected in bird deaths
By Rebecca Feldhaus [email protected]
Thursday, January 06 2011

Wildlife officials suspect power lines caused the deaths of hundreds of birds at Murray State University last week.

Jeff Steen, associate director of emergency management at MSU and Calloway County’s deputy director of emergency management, said Wednesday that wildlife officials suspected the birds flew into power lines, although they had not issued a definite finding. The birds were found Dec. 28 under high-tension lines in a student parking lot west of 16th Street near Calloway Street.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

~respectfully snipped from IWannaKnow~

Yeah, more birdicidal power lines: hahahahah!!!! You made me belly laugh!

Ok, now robins are falling out of the sky. I just don't know what to think about this. I didn't know the birds all had empty stomachs. That tidbit sounds as though they were sick.

I am beginning to think about the alien theory, LOL!

wm

 

[IWannaKnow]

Thank you wm. The power line story is getting a little absurd IMO. :crazy:

OK, I don't know if these are all related, like the crabs in England, but I will go ahead and post the ones I find. I understand wildlife deaths are not unusual, but the number and frequency of these seem odd to me.

http://www.wftv.com/news/26367953/detail.html

Thousands Of Fish Dead In Spruce Creek
Posted: 4:49 pm EST January 4, 2011
Updated: 8:32 am EST January 5, 2011

VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. -- Thousands of dead fish were floating in Volusia County Tuesday. They were all in Spruce Creek in Port Orange. The fish kill is unusual because it is warm, according to people who live along the creek.

Most of the fish were mullet, ladyfish and catfish, and not the valuable sporting fish called snook that died in mass during a cold spell last year.

So I'm starting to think that a map with all these kills on it, compared to the course of the storm might be useful. I think it could be the storm, but not the way they are saying....

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Conspiracy theories are popping up all over the web claiming Wheeler was murdered because he was about to expose the truth about Phosgene as the cause for the deaths of the birds and fish in Arkansas. I can't post any of the reports because I have yet to find one on a legitimate MSM source.

Not saying I believe this is true, but it's an interesting twist. Mysterious circumstances do surround his death. (On a side note, I remember him best as being instrumental in the effort to erect the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, DC.)
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bessie, This theory does make sense. Mr Wheeler was wandering around disoriented carrying a shoe. The videos are pitiful to watch.

I also remember seeing footage of the birds who were just sitting in the middle of the road looking confused and shaking.

Are there any chemists here at WS? If Phosgene was spilled in a river would it sink to the bottom or disperse? This could explain why only the bottom feeders died.

I also like the oil spill theory.

Thanks for sharing.......wm

 

[IWannaKnow]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corexit

Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[15][25] The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[26] According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people "respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders".[17] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding.[5]

Any of that sound familiar????

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Thank you wm. The power line story is getting a little absurd IMO. :crazy:

OK, I don't know if these are all related, like the crabs in England, but I will go ahead and post the ones I find. I understand wildlife deaths are not unusual, but the number and frequency of these seem odd to me.

http://www.wftv.com/news/26367953/detail.html

Thousands Of Fish Dead In Spruce Creek
Posted: 4:49 pm EST January 4, 2011
Updated: 8:32 am EST January 5, 2011

So I'm starting to think that a map with all these kills on it, compared to the course of the storm might be useful. I think it could be the storm, but not the way they are saying....

Oh Thank you for 'cataloging' them IWK! While I realize this is a natural occurence in some instances, it will be helpful to keep up with them all. There have been an unnatural amount within a short timespan.

I am beginning to feel skeered that some type of environmental terrorism is going on. I just don't know which enemy of the USA it could be. And who is mad at Sweden?

All MOO!

wm

 

[IWannaKnow]

bessie, This theory does make sense. Mr Wheeler was wandering around disoriented carrying a shoe. The videos are pitiful to watch.

I also remember seeing footage of the birds who were just sitting in the middle of the road looking confused and shaking.

Are there any chemists here at WS? If Phosgene was spilled in a river would it sink to the bottom or disperse? This could explain why only the bottom feeders died.

I also like the oil spill theory.

Thanks for sharing.......wm

You just nailed it there wm, IMO. Bottom feeders. Corexit is designed to sink to the bottom.....

 

[IWannaKnow]

http://www.katv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13784010

911 Tapes Released from Beebe Bird Scare
Posted: Jan 04, 2011 7:56 PM EST
Updated: Jan 04, 2011 8:45 PM EST

One caller said the birds were bleeding from their mouths and not all of them were dead.

 

[Hopeful One]

Some of the birds were tested here and they are saying they died of blunt force trauma.

http://www.channel3000.com/news/26383135/detail.html

This is all just way too strange. As others have said, I don't go for the fireworks thing either.

 

[Lera213]

Fireworks....Really? *rolls eyes*

 

[Reality Orlando]

I recently (within the last two months maybe) watche d ashow on history channel about sound wave technology we currently have and how maybe it was herre on earth before and that explains the great civilizations of the past etc. Anywho, they showed thes weapons that transmitted frequencies across the air that affected people, made them sick, made them pass out, etc.

What if something like that was affecting the birds and fish? But why would the government risk that sort of uproar and protest if they were found out? They could easily test these things in unpopulated, secured areas where people would not note the dead animals and they could be cleaned up, no one the wiser?

ETA what if there were some other explaination for naturally ocurring sounds were transmitting on frequencies and would sound have an effect on fish? Perhaps vibrations from sound might?

I've been working with fish and corals for over 36 years. Many things can cause their deaths...sudden PH changes in water, extreme temperature swings, algae that blooms out of control and limits the oxygen in the water, pollutants which cause huge phosphate/nitrate spikes, food sources disappearing, etc. It seems odd that one species of fish only had such a huge die off and so suddenly...I'd expect most causes of such deaths would affect all species in the area...doesn't seem to make sense unless, say their diet differs from others in the area and their food source was somehow contaminated. Another consideration could be a specific part of their anatomy was more sensitive to some change in their environment...just odd to me.

 

[hockeymom]

Heres a partial map I found of places worldwide with reported bird and fish deaths. There are since,lots more. http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/web0105-dead-animals1.jpg

Hey did anyone see the Victoria River in Canada that turned green? A pre St. Patty's day prank?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/12/30/victoria-river-mysteriously-turns-bright-green/

 

[IWannaKnow]

This theory might not be sexy enough, but it is what I currently believe is happening. We had massive storms just before Christmas, and right the way through, culminating with the New Years Eve storms which spawned many twisters. I think the storm/twisters picked up some Corexit from the Gulf and spread it in patches all the way to Sweden (I know that sounds ridiculous...but think of the mess the storm made over there....). The numbers of deaths get less the further north you go. I think they are blackbirds, grackles etc because the other birds migrate further south, and the remaining birds roost together in huge numbers, making it that much easier to take out a bunch of them at one time. The reason they are finding them around power lines is because they like to roost on power lines and they got wet, fell ill, then their legs tightened up and held them for a period of time until they dropped.....not that they flew into the power lines and that killed them. I think the Corexit soaked them and worked into their skin, causing massive internal bleeding and damaging their livers and nervous systems. The fish are all bottom feeders, crabs, drum, croakers, spots, catfish, mullet, ladyfish....all bottom dwellers. If the storm dropped a significant amount of Corexit into the water body and it sank to the bottom (as we know it does...) then those fish are swimming around in it. One article said all the fish were missing their eyes...I can't remember which kill that was, but it was mentioned the birds, cats etc wouldn't eat the fish. Incidently, many of the fish kills are saying they are too decomposed already to ever tell what really killed them.

This theory could be disproved with weather maps, but I cannot find a good map of the path of the storm, and if it continued into Europe and over Sweden. Can anyone direct me to a good site for something like that?

This is a very interesting site with radar showing the bird takeoffs in Beebe.

http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/we.../4k-and-20-blackbirds-downed-from-the-sky.asp

At first he says weather was not involved, but about halfway down the page he says that they found a 1.5 mile long rain shower that passed at the same time the first takeoff occurred, and radar shows at least some of the birds being sucked up into that shower. They fell over a 1.5 mile radius. Perhaps this shower was the one that contaminated the birds? They keep saying that very loud noises were heard, like cannon shots almost. Very mysterious. Wonder if cloud contamination could cause those noises?

 

[Dolive2]

This is an interesting article. More widespread than I thought.

http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/birds-and-fish-are-now-dying-all-around-the-world/

 

[Reality Orlando]

Heres a partial map I found of places worldwide with reported bird and fish deaths. There are since,lots more. http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/web0105-dead-animals1.jpg

Hey did anyone see the Victoria River in Canada that turned green? A pre St. Patty's day prank?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/12/30/victoria-river-mysteriously-turns-bright-green/

I have to wonder if it's this artist as noted under the story you posted or a copycat. Color appears the same as his work:

http://www.artinfo.com/news/photos/1069/11758/

http://www.olafureliasson.net/works/green_river_1.html

Seems he likes to turn rivers green and gauge people's reactions :waitasec:

 

[Dolive2]

Every year they turn the river green in San Antonio Texas at the Riverwalk for St. Patties Day. Probably someone did do this