Mother preparing to be arrested

[MissJames]

Someone was discussing why DB might have young son and kitten in bed with her. Could be for comfort. If she knew her baby Lisa was gone forever, by some accident. She might need someone, something to cuddle.

If you have kids,just imagine,..............you ran to get the phone while baby was in the tub and forgot . When you remember you run back and baby is lifeless,face down in the water. What do you do ? Your baby has drowned!!!

A) Oh man ,baby's dead. WTH am I going to do? I have to hide her or my stepson might get taken away.Where's the trash bags ? Hubby will be home soon.
or
B)You grab the baby ,trying to get her to breathe while you scream for help ,hoping the neighbors hear ,and calling 911 ASAP .You continue doing whatever you can to get your baby to breathe while begging for the help to hurry !

And should I describe what it's like after your child has been pronounced dead.
First ,you beg them to keep trying.You shake uncontrollably. You don't sleep for days ,eyes always red and swollen. Shell shocked ,waiting to wake up from the nightmare .
Not cuddled up in bed with a kitten ,snoozing away.

Either something criminal happened or Lisa really was kidnapped,IMO.

I didn't buy the "accident covered up to look like a kidnapping " with Casey Anthony and I'm not buying it now. It makes no sense to me.
Moms don't give up on their babies.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Who said she was having an affair? The detective today said the man she was with was "not anything to do with anything"...in other words it was not a lover or anything for rumors to run amuck with.

Eek!, I was replying to a poster who was speculating on the connections between Lisa's family and the abandoned house. I have no idea or opinion about an affair other than what is in my post (the one you quoted). I apologize if it seemed like I was making assumptions.

 

[frankie069]

According to the tape he states he came home, saw lights on, went to computer room...went to shut window...saw it stuck...went into bedroom, woke up Deb...saw son sleeping there...then remembered baby door open...then hollered where is Lisa...then Deb got up then both hollering and both boys now awakened.

That is not the interview I saw on TV. He went step by step saying how he found the house. I am talking his very first interview, whether he changed it after that I dont know. What I saw was exactly as I said. He said, yes he first saw the widow with the screen bent a little at the bottom ( I am not sure at 4am after working my first ever night shift I would have even noticed that), the he said he came into the house, the front door was unlocked, let me back track, the screen was in place in the window as well, then he came in the house and all the lights were on, he went into the boys room, checked on them, then went into debs room and woke her and asked her if she turned the lights on, he never mentioned asking her about the door being unlocked, then they both went into Lisa's room and she was gone. They screamed for her and went looking for her and realized the cell phones were gone and wondered how they were going to call the police. Those were moms words. When asked how they called the police, the father then said he took his cell phone out of his pocket, he had his work phone on him. Thats where the whole question came up at first on how long of a delay was there for them to call the police and why didnt they use their land line and why didnt they run to a neighbors house then. I dont believe there was a delay in calling the police though because they said he came home at like 4am and called the police at like 4am so it seems there wasnt even enough time to go through the whole routine they went through. That is the interview I saw on TV. Both of them contradicted each other a bit but enough to cast doubt on the story IMO.

 

[PolyGraph]

Again, another case where it strikes me as extremely odd that when a child goes missing, the parents do not seem to be going out of their minds looking, I mean actually physically going out and searching like mad for their child, I would immediately told police to polygraph me so I could the h out of the Police station and go out on foot searching for my child!!! I did not hear one thing about them canvasing the neighborhood after they called 911 to actually LOOK for their child. I know when my little man went missing for 10 minutes while we were visiting a neighbor in an adjoining apartment I went crazy looking for him, I know the panic you feel the first time you discover your child missing, Im not seeing this PANIC in these parents. Maybe its just the way they are reacting, but in a few of the missing child cases Ive seen this where the parents do not seem to be in complete and total panic and do not go physically searching for their child!!! I dont know maybe its just me but I would be freaking the heck out and not sitting around doing interviews and taking any time at all away from actually physically walking around, talking to neighbors doing EVERYTHING that I possibly could to find my child. Not setting up accounts where I could get money and doing interviews, NO WAY I would be out there digging in the mud SEARCHING SEARCHING SEARCHING!!! NO WAY I could sit still at all........MOO:maddening:

 

[Coldpizza]

Who said she was having an affair? The detective today said the man she was with was "not anything to do with anything"...in other words it was not a lover or anything for rumors to run amuck with.

I heard it with my own ears. Capt. Young said they know who the man is she was with at the convince store. The info provided would do nothing to further the investigation. FWIW

 

[Coldpizza]

So was the demo scheduled prior to today which caused the urgency on the search?

IF DB was having an affair, is it possible this house was the love nest? (I don't really know how affairs work, they seem like a lot of trouble and sneaking around and a lot of extra sex that could otherwise be avoided).

Quite frankly, IF I was having an affair it certainly wouldn't be in an abandoned home with mold, spiders and snakes running amock!

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Eek!, I was replying to a poster who was speculating on the connections between Lisa's family and the abandoned house. I have no idea or opinion about an affair other than what is in my post (the one you quoted). I apologize if it seemed like I was making assumptions.

No need to apologize. I think sometimes words come out in print as harsh when not intended. I was responding to the same person you were and it only picked up your comment not the entire quote...hers and yours.

 

[loveandhugs]

That is not the interview I saw on TV. He went step by step saying how he found the house. I am talking his very first interview, whether he changed it after that I dont know. What I saw was exactly as I said. He said, yes he first saw the widow with the screen bent a little at the bottom ( I am not sure at 4am after working my first ever night shift I would have even noticed that), the he said he came into the house, the front door was unlocked, let me back track, the screen was in place in the window as well, then he came in the house and all the lights were on, he went into the boys room, checked on them, then went into debs room and woke her and asked her if she turned the lights on, he never mentioned asking her about the door being unlocked, then they both went into Lisa's room and she was gone. They screamed for her and went looking for her and realized the cell phones were gone and wondered how they were going to call the police. Those were moms words. When asked how they called the police, the father then said he took his cell phone out of his pocket, he had his work phone on him. Thats where the whole question came up at first on how long of a delay was there for them to call the police and why didnt they use their land line and why didnt they run to a neighbors house then. I dont believe there was a delay in calling the police though because they said he came home at like 4am and called the police at like 4am so it seems there wasnt even enough time to go through the whole routine they went through. That is the interview I saw on TV. Both of them contradicted each other a bit but enough to cast doubt on the story IMO.

I also question how or why the dad noticed the screen was bent at 4:00 a.m., you wouldn't notice that by just glancing at the window, you would really have to look at it. The story they are giving has too much information, and too many things are "not normal", all lights on, front door open, cell phones missing. All this happened and the mom nor the two boys woke up. As far as climbing in through the window, I admit LE looked strange, but I have had to climb in a window and it is not easy, all people that say it is, try it. This window isn't close to the ground, someone would need to stand on something in order to get inside.

Also, the mom is crying constantly, I know each person reacts differently, but the crying is too frequent and staged, by now a mom would become strong and want to do everything possible to find her child, anger would take over.

 

[marycarney]

Just want to pop in and say the guy who had his house demolished today got a BARGAIN if LE did it for him. It's pricy work. If I'm him and they have what they want from the structure - I'd offer to let them tear it down, burn it up for practice, whatever, to save the thousands it would otherwise cost.

Of course, he still has to have the debris hauled off, but still.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I heard it with my own ears. Capt. Young said they know who the man is she was with at the convince store. The info provided would do nothing to further the investigation. FWIW

Correct. The man could have been her father for all we know In other words...the man was more than probably mentioned by DB at the onset when she had to give her days accounting and was not an unusual person for her to be with....in other words...gave no indication at all that the man was a secret boyfriend, etc.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I also question how or why the dad noticed the screen was bent at 4:00 a.m., you wouldn't notice that by just glancing at the window, you would really have to look at it. The story they are giving has too much information, and too many things are "not normal", all lights on, front door open, cell phones missing. All this happened and the mom nor the two boys woke up. As far as climbing in through the window, I admit LE looked strange, but I have had to climb in a window and it is not easy, all people that say it is, try it. This window isn't close to the ground, someone would need to stand on something in order to get inside.

Also, the mom is crying constantly, I know each person reacts differently, but the crying is too frequent and staged, by now a mom would become strong and want to do everything possible to find her child, anger would take over.

IT was stated when he went to shut the window it would not shut and that is how he noticed the bend.

 

[IrishMist]

Again, another case where it strikes me as extremely odd that when a child goes missing, the parents do not seem to be going out of their minds looking, I mean actually physically going out and searching like mad for their child, I would immediately told police to polygraph me so I could the h out of the Police station and go out on foot searching for my child!!! I did not hear one thing about them canvasing the neighborhood after they called 911 to actually LOOK for their child. I know when my little man went missing for 10 minutes while we were visiting a neighbor in an adjoining apartment I went crazy looking for him, I know the panic you feel the first time you discover your child missing, Im not seeing this PANIC in these parents. Maybe its just the way they are reacting, but in a few of the missing child cases Ive seen this where the parents do not seem to be in complete and total panic and do not go physically searching for their child!!! I dont know maybe its just me but I would be freaking the heck out and not sitting around doing interviews and taking any time at all away from actually physically walking around, talking to neighbors doing EVERYTHING that I possibly could to find my child. Not setting up accounts where I could get money and doing interviews, NO WAY I would be out there digging in the mud SEARCHING SEARCHING SEARCHING!!! NO WAY I could sit still at all........MOO:maddening:

I think parents are told to NOT look for the child. That was actually a problem in the JonBenet Ramsey case; her father found her body and in grabbing her to bring her upstairs, he disturbed the crime scene.

If, God forbid, the parents were to go looking and find the baby's body in the bushes, as parents could they keep themselves from rushing to her? I doubt it.

 

[IrishMist]

Just want to pop in and say the guy who had his house demolished today got a BARGAIN if LE did it for him. It's pricy work. If I'm him and they have what they want from the structure - I'd offer to let them tear it down, burn it up for practice, whatever, to save the thousands it would otherwise cost.

Of course, he still has to have the debris hauled off, but still.

He will most likely be getting a bill from the City.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

No need to apologize. I think sometimes words come out in print as harsh when not intended. I was responding to the same person you were and it only picked up your comment not the entire quote...hers and yours.

No problem! I actually don't know how to do nested or embedded quotes here, either.

 

[In da Middle]

This family is in desperate need of some guidance from a competent attorney.

 

[AnaTeresa]

This family is in desperate need of some guidance from a competent attorney.

I wish I could thank this more than once. So very true, regardless of guilt or innocence.

 

[IrishMist]

If you have kids,just imagine,..............you ran to get the phone while baby was in the tub and forgot . When you remember you run back and baby is lifeless,face down in the water. What do you do ? Your baby has drowned!!!

A) Oh man ,baby's dead. WTH am I going to do? I have to hide her or my stepson might get taken away.Where's the trash bags ? Hubby will be home soon.
or
B)You grab the baby ,trying to get her to breathe while you scream for help ,hoping the neighbors hear ,and calling 911 ASAP .You continue doing whatever you can to get your baby to breathe while begging for the help to hurry !

And should I describe what it's like after your child has been pronounced dead.
First ,you beg them to keep trying.You shake uncontrollably. You don't sleep for days ,eyes always red and swollen. Shell shocked ,waiting to wake up from the nightmare .
Not cuddled up in bed with a kitten ,snoozing away.

Either something criminal happened or Lisa really was kidnapped,IMO.

I didn't buy the "accident covered up to look like a kidnapping " with Casey Anthony and I'm not buying it now. It makes no sense to me.
Moms don't give up on their babies.

That couldn't have been easy for you to type, MissJames. Thank you.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I also question how or why the dad noticed the screen was bent at 4:00 a.m., you wouldn't notice that by just glancing at the window, you would really have to look at it. The story they are giving has too much information, and too many things are "not normal", all lights on, front door open, cell phones missing. All this happened and the mom nor the two boys woke up. As far as climbing in through the window, I admit LE looked strange, but I have had to climb in a window and it is not easy, all people that say it is, try it. This window isn't close to the ground, someone would need to stand on something in order to get inside.

Also, the mom is crying constantly, I know each person reacts differently, but the crying is too frequent and staged, by now a mom would become strong and want to do everything possible to find her child, anger would take over.

Here is a possible scenario.
Mom puts baby to bed 7:30 as she said.
Goes on computer , hot in room...opens window.
Mom gathers kids up shuts off lights shuts doors...normal routine, 6 yr old wants to sleep with mom and new kitty. Mom says ok.
8 year old gets up at night and wants kitty....turns on all lights to look for kitty, sees mom door shut and figures will be in trouble if he wakes her so he goes back to bed. Now all lights on.
Man/Woman come to kidnap baby that they wanted. Man goes to open window and starts to bend inward, woman says "hey door is unlocked"...man gives up the window and goes in the house with woman...man grabs cell phones off kitchen counter in case anyone wakes up in house and confrontation occurs...woman gets baby...man and woman leave house.
Dad comes home at 4am...sees lights on. Thinks wife is careless...or maybe thinks she left on due to his first midnight shift away.
He goes in house and starts shutting lights...goes to computer room...starts to shut the open window....and realizes bent frame...now he is wanting to know why all this goes on the first night he is not home...doesn't she have control of the kids? Goes in bedroom a bit irate...wakes her up and says "all the lights on' AND sees sleeping six year old...says "Why is he sleeping in here?" then remembers Lisa door open....then goes to shut her door when he looks in as he goes to shut her door and sees she is not in crib...even though his intention was to shut her door to not awaken her with his upset voice over the way he found the house and child in bed...then all is realized and then PD called.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Quite frankly, IF I was having an affair it certainly wouldn't be in an abandoned home with mold, spiders and snakes running amock!

Snakes?! kay: Do not want!!

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

No problem! I actually don't know how to do nested or embedded quotes here, either.

LOL...well, you're doing better than me as you knew what it was called! LOL..never heard of "nested" quotes. Now I've learned something