Mother preparing to be arrested

[In da Middle]

Here is a possible scenario.
Mom puts baby to bed 7:30 as she said.
Goes on computer , hot in room...opens window.
Mom gathers kids up shuts off lights shuts doors...normal routine, 6 yr old wants to sleep with mom and new kitty. Mom says ok.
8 year old gets up at night and wants kitty....turns on all lights to look for kitty, sees mom door shut and figures will be in trouble if he wakes her so he goes back to bed. Now all lights on.
Man/Woman come to kidnap baby that they wanted. Man goes to open window and starts to bend inward, woman says "hey door is unlocked"...man gives up the window and goes in the house with woman...man grabs cell phones off kitchen counter in case anyone wakes up in house and confrontation occurs...woman gets baby...man and woman leave house.
Dad comes home at 4am...sees lights on. Thinks wife is careless...or maybe thinks she left on due to his first midnight shift away.
He goes in house and starts shutting lights...goes to computer room...starts to shut the open window....and realizes bent frame...now he is wanting to know why all this goes on the first night he is not home...doesn't she have control of the kids? Goes in bedroom a bit irate...wakes her up and says "all the lights on' AND sees sleeping six year old...says "Why is he sleeping in here?" then remembers Lisa door open....then goes to shut her door when he looks in as he goes to shut her door and sees she is not in crib...even though his intention was to shut her door to not awaken her with his upset voice over the way he found the house and child in bed...then all is realized and then PD called.

This is very similar to what I imagine happened.

 

[In da Middle]

EXACTLY and that is the one thing that sticks out to me. Why did he check on the boys first, mom second and then get her to check on the baby. It doesnt fit in this story. I wish I was a cop. I would love to be the one questioning them.

He might have assumed that since the baby's door was open she was in bed with mom or even did check on her and see she wasn't there. He then goes into his bedroom and realizes that only the son is in bed with her and therefore 'where's lisa?'.

 

[BethInAK]

If you have kids,just imagine,..............you ran to get the phone while baby was in the tub and forgot . When you remember you run back and baby is lifeless,face down in the water. What do you do ? Your baby has drowned!!!

A) Oh man ,baby's dead. WTH am I going to do? I have to hide her or my stepson might get taken away.Where's the trash bags ? Hubby will be home soon.
or
B)You grab the baby ,trying to get her to breathe while you scream for help ,hoping the neighbors hear ,and calling 911 ASAP .You continue doing whatever you can to get your baby to breathe while begging for the help to hurry !

And should I describe what it's like after your child has been pronounced dead.
First ,you beg them to keep trying.You shake uncontrollably. You don't sleep for days ,eyes always red and swollen. Shell shocked ,waiting to wake up from the nightmare .
Not cuddled up in bed with a kitten ,snoozing away.

Either something criminal happened or Lisa really was kidnapped,IMO.

I didn't buy the "accident covered up to look like a kidnapping " with Casey Anthony and I'm not buying it now. It makes no sense to me.
Moms don't give up on their babies.

Well, let's say you did something more criminally negligent than that...say drank a box of wine and fell asleep with your baby in bed and smothered her? Or overdosed them on cold meds? Yes, you shake the child and you scream (rumornof screams true?) and then if you are of a certain personality type, you realize your kid is dead and you are responsible and goingnto jail. If you are a regular mother you hold out hope and call an ambulance. But maybe you are not a regular mother. N

 

[marge_rita]

I must admit when I read that D was preparing to be arrested I was stunned. Who says that? Then again is she really innocent? I hate to see someone who's innocent be arrested and go on trial.

Everything about this case is so complicated.

imo

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I must admit when I read that D was preparing to be arrested I was stunned. Who says that? Then again is she really innocent? I hate to see someone who's innocent be arrested and go on trial.

Everything about this case is so complicated.

imo

I'm kind of on the fence with this tragedy, but i will say I think their former spolesperson did the family more harm than good. It reminds me of the Holly Bobo case where everyone speaks for everyone else and few speak for themselves. It adds alot of confusion, doubt and speculation all around.

 

[cluciano63]

I think the aunt sounded ignorant by saying "they have to pin it on somebody" as her reason for DB "preparing to be arrested." Also way too defensive. It would have made more sense instead to put forward the image that "we only want to help LE clear the family so that they can move on to the real perp."

There shouldn't be such a gap between LE and the family in a case like this...it is never helpful and it seems those cases that remain unsolved often have this breach.

JMO

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I think the aunt sounded ignorant by saying "they have to pin it on somebody" as her reason for DB "preparing to be arrested." Also way too defensive. It would have made more sense instead to put forward the image that "we only want to help LE clear the family so that they can move on to the real perp."

There shouldn't be such a gap between LE and the family in a case like this...it is never helpful and it seems those cases that remain unsolved often have this breach.

JMO

I totally agree. That statement reminded me of KC saying I was arrested today on a ********* whim, and Mommy dearest backing her up and claiming KC was arrested for political reasons.

 

[JBean]

I think the aunt sounded ignorant by saying "they have to pin it on somebody" as her reason for DB "preparing to be arrested." Also way too defensive. It would have made more sense instead to put forward the image that "we only want to help LE clear the family so that they can move on to the real perp."

There shouldn't be such a gap between LE and the family in a case like this...it is never helpful and it seems those cases that remain unsolved often have this breach.

JMO

One of the things I am really confused about is trying to determine whether the family is creating the gap with LE or if LE is creating a gap with the family.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

One of the things I am really confused about is trying to determine whether the family is creating the gap with LE or if LE is creating a gap with the family.

Agree, agree, agree! I really don't have a theory on this case at all, so I am trying to be as open to everything or everyone as possible, but Aunt is changing that.

 

[Shelby1]

Good morning, everyone!

Updated timeline posted.

 

[curiousc]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=141258996

"I challenge you to name something, and I can assure you we have done it twice," Young said early in the investigation. But he has also said all along that he and other police can't comment on the investigation.

Lisa's parents appeared on television several times that first week but have since retreated from the media, saying they want to focus all their attention on finding Lisa. They declined to comment Tuesday.

A relative said family members had watched part of the well search on television.

Attention on finding Lisa? Keeping her name in the media is one tool!

Are they out searching for her or just watching television?

IMO

 

[Wholehearted]

I haven't followed this as closely as many of you, but I'm a little bit confused about what Dad did when he got home.

Why did he wake the mom when he saw all the lights on? I mean, it's 4 a.m. Why wouldn't he have assumed she left the lights on and let her sleep? Was he pissed? Or was it the combo of all the lights on and the bent screen?

 

[Shelby1]

I haven't followed this as closely as many of you, but I'm a little bit confused about what Dad did when he got home.

Why did he wake the mom when he saw all the lights on? I mean, it's 4 a.m. Why wouldn't he have assumed she left the lights on and let her sleep? Was he pissed? Or was it the combo of all the lights on and the bent screen?

He said it was very unusual to have the lights on at that time.

 

[JeannieC]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=141258996



Attention on finding Lisa? Keeping her name in the media is one tool!

Are they out searching for her or just watching television?

IMO

As far as we know they aren't doing any searches on their own. The only searches I know of were police and FBI. No community searches that I'm aware of.

 

[curiousc]

As far as we know they aren't doing any searches on their own. The only searches I know of were police and FBI. No community searches that I'm aware of.

Exactly! Why no community searches? In the article it states:

Lisa's parents appeared on television several times that first week but have since retreated from the media, saying they want to focus all their attention on finding Lisa. They declined to comment Tuesday.

A relative said family members had watched part of the well search on television.

The parents want to focus all their attention on finding Lisa....

What are they doing exactly? I guess that's everyone's guess.

 

[eleni777]

He said it was very unusual to have the lights on at that time.

Yes but it was his FIRST night on nighshift... I hate sleeping in a dark house by myself...I leave two lights on..the kitchen and hallway light when I'm alone overnight in the house.

 

[davehead21]

Exactly! Why no community searches? In the article it states:



The parents want to focus all their attention on finding Lisa....

What are they doing exactly? I guess that's everyone's guess.

BBM

This is something I have been wondering all along. So many times in missing people cases, there are searches of the community. Volunteers are requested, etc. There hasn't been anything like that in this case. I think it's very strange.

 

[davehead21]

Yes but it was his FIRST night on nighshift... I hate sleeping in a dark house by myself...I leave two lights on..the kitchen and hallway light when I'm alone overnight in the house.

Just because this was his first night shift doesn't mean it was his first night out of the house. He could have had late nights out with his friends-- bars, concerts, sports games, etc. I am going to assume that he knew D's habits in regards to lights in the home at night.

 

[krimekat]

I think it strange there is not a constant search for this child. While I don't believe parents should be searching (what if they FOUND something), wouldn't others be compelled to search?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Yes but it was his FIRST night on nighshift... I hate sleeping in a dark house by myself...I leave two lights on..the kitchen and hallway light when I'm alone overnight in the house.

The thing about the lights bothers me, too, but maybe it's just a case of different strokes for different folks. DH has never worked night shifts, but we have lights on timers in our house all the time. We also have a few landscape lights because our subdivision has no streetlights other than at the main entrance. Each lot has a post-lamp that the HOA would like to be illuminated at night, but this can't be enforced since individual homeowners pay the electric bill. Ours is on 24/7 - it's actually lit right now because it's very cloudy (post lamp bulb is light-sensitive). I'm sure that neighbors of the Irwins would be able to provide details about how the house was lit at different times of the day and in different seasons. jmo