Mother says son was suspended for calling teacher ‘cute’

[Kimberlyd125]

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Since your post predicted his future, can you enlighten us on his past?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I just read the article in the OP again. Looks like it was updated this evening.

The child said the teacher was fine in a suggestive tone.
He didn't say it to the teacher. It was overheard by someone else.

The certified letter from the school said THAT COMMENT was considered sexual harassment.

They also said he had been in trouble for calling other students names.


So, the sexual harassment was due to the comment about the teacher.

How in the world could this be considered sexual harassment?

 

[marauder]

"Leftist" you call this? Bible- based fear of one's own sexuality is about as far from The Left as you could get.





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[OneLove]

Here's what I get from the update: The school says he called a teacher "fine" in a suggestive way. I don't think many people find that to be acceptable behavior. The mother also admits that his repeated name calling, which she says she did not know about, changes her understanding of the viability of his suspension.

What he did (on both counts) is against school policy. At every school I have worked with, policy manuals are reviewed with students at the beginning of the year, sent home to parents and a receipt of acceptance signed by parents and returned to the school. Then the policies are consistently reinforced and upheld in the daily school environment. Suspensions are not the first penalty applied for an offense, they are the last after all other lower level penalties have been applied and failed to change the behavior.

The 9 year old says he simply said the teacher was "cute". I personally doubt that. The mother also admitted that calling other students bad names is a game-changer (my word) and that she understands the need for his suspension, given his repeat offenses.

Although she says she did not know about those offenses (I doubt that too), she WOULD HAVE if she had simply conferenced with the school instead of calling the evening news. Bad choice for a parent, even if she DID authentically believe he was being falsely accused. What he learned from his mother's bad behavior reinforced his (probable) lying and showed him that all he has to do to get out of trouble and get the VICTIM in trouble instead is claim he's being persecuted and mom, WITHOUT QUESTION, will drop a nuclear bomb on anyone who "harms junior". So if there is any behavior disorder, conduct disorder, sociopathy, or psychological pathology going on with this kid, she has just STRENGTHENED it instead of helping him find ways to walk in this world within healthy boundaries.

You ask how I know about his past behavior. I know about his past behavior because his misguided mother put it in the news. We just read about it. It is now his "history". What happens from here will be strongly influential on what direction he takes.

Working with first time juvenile offenders, we learn that there are two strong predictors of whether early intervention in our program has much likelihood of preventing recidivism. One is whether the offender can feel regret for their offense. They cannot if they never accept they have done anything wrong. Moms that scream "my kid has done nothing wrong" make this impossible. Poor kids. The other predictor is..........drumroll.......the parents attitude about their child's offenses. Again, a parent cannot help a child develop appropriate boundaries if they cannot recognize them themselves. Poor kids again.

When you work with enough cases over enough years, you begin to spot which kids will most likely be in prisons eventually. Some of our kids are ministers, teachers, a school principle, child advocate attorney, etc. Their early experience as a first offender has been put to good use helping others. It's a beautiful thing to see. But, unfortunately, the majority don't end up that way. My worst grief in watching that over the years has been knowing that it is NOT the kid's fault in most cases; good, caring, nurturing, RESPONSIBLE parenting could have made the difference.

I HATE seeing cases like this. I fear for the long term outcome. I hope the best for this child. I hope it's also been a learning experience for his mother.

 

[MNlady]

I just read the article in the OP again. Looks like it was updated this evening.

The child said the teacher was fine in a suggestive tone.
He didn't say it to the teacher. It was overheard by someone else.

The certified letter from the school said THAT COMMENT was considered sexual harassment.

They also said he had been in trouble for calling other students names.


So, the sexual harassment was due to the comment about the teacher.

How in the world could this be considered sexual harassment?

I totally agree. HOW could it be sexual harassment when it wasn't even said to the teacher, it was said to a friend?????
So in other words, if I told a co-worker that the guy in the next office was a Hunk my boss could write me up for sexual harassment???? I don't think so. It's utterly ridiculous. IMO
It doesn't even say he was calling other kids bad or profane names, it only says "inappropriate names", I want to know WHAT those names are~! In that school it could be a common nickname and be viewed 'inappropriate', that's the way it sounds to me. :maddening::banghead:

 

[Donjeta]

I don't understand the school policy if it's true that the mother didn't know about the repeated name calling.

Whaddaheck?

In my world, if it's a problem that a child calls other children names, the first thing that you do is contact the parents. That comes way before suspending him which is IMO what you do if nothing else works.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I am still confused. :waitasec:

One boy says to another that he thinks the teacher is "fine" ? He's suspended for that? Did he grab his crotch when he said it? Who overheard it ? What exactly was said perviously to other students? From the limited info we have I do not think it's sexual harrassment.

 

[TrackerSam]

I am still confused. :waitasec:

One boy says to another that he thinks the teacher is "fine" ? He's suspended for that? Did he grab his crotch when he said it? Who overheard it ? What exactly was said perviously to other students? From the limited info we have I do not think it's sexual harrassment.

Big Brother is vatching you, unt you vill do as ve say. :silenced:

 

[Linda7NJ]

Big Brother is vatching you, unt you vill do as ve say. :silenced:

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh: I always LOVE your posts! Thanks:rocker:

 

[TrackerSam]

"Leftist" you call this? Bible- based fear of one's own sexuality is about as far from The Left as you could get.





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You're post makes no sense and yes the leftist school system is part of Big Brother.

Big Brother is a fictional character in George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. He is the enigmatic dictator of Oceania, a totalitarian state taken to its utmost logical consequence – where the ruling Party wields total power for its own sake over the inhabitants.

In the society that Orwell describes, everyone is under complete surveillance by the authorities, mainly by telescreens. The people are constantly reminded of this by the phrase "Big Brother is watching you", which is the core "truth" of the propaganda system in this state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_(Nineteen_Eighty-Four)

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I am still confused. :waitasec:

One boy says to another that he thinks the teacher is "fine" ? He's suspended for that? Did he grab his crotch when he said it? Who overheard it ? What exactly was said perviously to other students? From the limited info we have I do not think it's sexual harrassment.

The certified letter that the school sent to the mom said that the "fine" comment was considered sexual harassment.

Go figure!

That makes no sense AT ALL!

 

[gxm]

Tracker Sam, leftism is not a synonym for totalitarianism. A suitable synonym would be authoritarian. And it just so happens that liberal is listed as an antonym for authoritarian.

You are entitled to your political opinion but you're confusing ideologies. Current authoritarian-like regulations are the product of both the political right and the slightly left of center "left." To the best of my knowledge, there is no viable totalitarian movement in the U.S. The Donkeyphant party is really more a plutocracy, IMO.

 

[TrackerSam]

Tracker Sam, leftism is not a synonym for totalitarianism. A suitable synonym would be authoritarian. And it just so happens that liberal is listed as an antonym for authoritarian.

You are entitled to your political opinion but you're confusing ideologies. Current authoritarian-like regulations are the product of both the political right and the slightly left of center "left." To the best of my knowledge, there is no viable totalitarian movement in the U.S. The Donkeyphant party is really more a plutocracy, IMO.

Semantics. Perhaps definitions need to be changed. The school system is far left, not slightly left of center. Their zero tolerance policies lack justice and often do more harm than good. Beware the thought police.

 

[marauder]

In the sense that they teach science and maths rather than jesus and myths, yes, the schools are, ahem, far left. eyeroll.

 

[Angels_Not_Forgotten]

I work with the school systems in this area and let me say, it's damn near impossible for a child to be sent out of the classroom, let alone suspended. Teachers hands are tied with kids that are continuously disruptive in class. This child must have had a pattern of events that caused disruption and this was the final straw. HOWEVER, that doesn't explain why the mother was not aware of the problems her child was causing. It's a very weird case for sure, but being around these kids, and sometimes their just as disruptive parents, i'm not gonna immediately think that it's ridiculous without more information. Mainly, was the mother contacted before and what the outcome of that contact was. I know I have personally called parents numerous times about issues with their children, and haven't gotten any sort of response. So while i'm not going to say oh he deserves it, I would really like to hear from the school if the mother has been contacted before and if there are documented problems with the child.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/29935344/detail.html

Principal forced to retire amid 9-year-old boy's suspension

A Gastonia principal who accused a 9-year-old of sexual harassment retired abruptly Tuesday night.

Principal Jerry Bostic told Eyewitness News he retired as of 5 p.m.

He told the Gaston Gazette the Gaston County School District gave him one hour to decide whether to quit or be fired.

The school initially claimed it sexual harassment, adding Emanyea used the word "fine" in a suggestive tone. School officials said in addition to the comment about the teacher, Emanyea had been warned about calling students bad words.





But Tuesday, the district released a statement apologizing to the family and saying there was no sexual harassment.

“We regret this situation happened. The superintendent has attempted to contact the family to offer an apology to the parents and student. The school system is also sending an official letter of apology to the parents and student,” the statement says in part.

The suspension will not count against Emanyea, and additional instructional assistance will be provided to him for the classroom time missed, the school system said.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

On Tuesday, the school system said an investigation determined no sexual harassment occurred.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/29927381/detail.html

 

[Nova]

Semantics. Perhaps definitions need to be changed. The school system is far left, not slightly left of center. Their zero tolerance policies lack justice and often do more harm than good. Beware the thought police.

Their "zero tolerance policies" are usually the unfortunate consequence of the rigidity of bureaucracy. That rigidity isn't specifically left or right, as Stalinism and National Socialism so aptly demonstrated.

 

[TrackerSam]

Their "zero tolerance policies" are usually the unfortunate consequence of the rigidity of bureaucracy. That rigidity isn't specifically left or right, as Stalinism and National Socialism so aptly demonstrated.

Well.......... that's your opnion. It's my opinion that the school system's bureaucracy has been leaning far left since the 1960's.

 

[Snick1946]

Well.......... that's your opnion. It's my opinion that the school system's bureaucracy has been leaning far left since the 1960's.

Just curious; do you have any children in public school? Any teachers in your family?