GUILTY MS - Alexandria "Ally" Kostial, 21, Ole Miss student found dead, Harmontown, 20 Jul 2019 *ARREST* #2

[Seattle1]

Whatever their relationship was, it soured at some point, according to a friend of the victim’s wrote on Twitter.

“He harassed her for years, took advantage of her for years,” the friend claimed. “I spent countless nights holding Ally close drying her tears about this monster for years. You deserve hell you disgusting excuse for a human. #JusticeForAlly You will never diminish her sunshine.”

Ole Miss Student Seen in Photos With Fellow Undergrad Suspected of Murdering Her

 

[Seattle1]

I believe the correct suspect in this murder is behind bars.

What say the defense?

 

[JBMDC]

I believe the correct suspect in this murder is behind bars.

What say the defense?

I think everyone believes that he is the murderer. If anyone doubted he was guilty, they would be frantically searching for the real killer who shot an innocent young woman multiple times for no apparent reason.

 

[Seattle1]

I think everyone believes that he is the murderer. If anyone doubted he was guilty, they would be frantically searching for the real killer who shot an innocent young woman multiple times for no apparent reason.

Except defense doesn't believe he's guilty.

BT's lawyers said he will plead not guilty.

And that was my question -- what saith the defense?

Self defense?

Real killer running loose?

 

[MemPat]

RE. Case sealed:

Kendall Downing‏Verified account @kendall_downing
That means these docs are the only publicly available ones we will get from the clerk’s office. Unless the DA or defense attorneys give us docs. @WMCActionNews5

11:11 AM - 26 Jul 2019 pst

Wow, it might be time to update these forms, don't you think? Strange.

 

[afitzy]

Just putting this into the thread as there are some differences in MS that have already become evident watching this case.

https://courts.ms.gov/research/rules/msrulesofcourt/Rules of Criminal Procedure Post-070118.pdf

RE: Grand Jury - Process and Role

Grand Jury will be secret and Jurors must remain silent for 6 months after service is the way that I read the relevant section in the above document.

 

[Seattle1]

Wow, it might be time to update these forms, don't you think? Strange.

Case is sealed so we can expect NO additional public documents unless provided by the DA or defense.

Maybe after grand jury indicts BT there will be a statement how they intend to move forward with public information.

MOO

 

[MemPat]

Case is sealed so we can expect NO additional public documents unless provided by the DA or defense.

Maybe after grand jury indicts BT there will be a statement how they intend to move forward with public information.

MOO

Seattle1, I was talking about the wording on the forms....so antiquated.

 

[Seattle1]

Seattle1, I was talking about the wording on the forms....so antiquated.

Haaaa.

I think I kind of like the "fill in the blank" -- forces the author to think and use his/her words wisely.

 

[afitzy]

Haaaa.

I think I kind of like the "fill in the blank" -- forces the author to think and use his/her words wisely.

Yes, but the form specifically said Murder and I read this to be singular.

My question though is if they are taking this to the Grand Jury for Murder (singular) and it turns out that this tragic case actually involves Murders (plural) then do they have to go back to the Grand Jury again? Is this just an maneuver to delay the prosecution process even further?

In reading about the Grand Jury process there seems to be a good bit of time involved in calling the jury and then setting the hearing process schedule. We are already seeing this scheduling issue play out in the amount of time that has passed since the arrest until the case is heard by the Grand Jury.

It just seems that if the DA (who I believe is trying this case) knows its a Murders (plural) case why not use this information at the Grand Jury meeting that is presently scheduled? Or, can the DA change the charge to Murders (plural) in the upcoming scheduled Grand Jury meeting and because the court is non public the change in charges would only be revealed if the DA chose to reveal the information?

I don't understand the reason for the secrecy around the charges given that the autopsy is done and most likely just pending some additional reports at this time.

Does the DA really plan to attempt to try this case outside the public eye?

Information about defense counsel:
Attorneys from high profile cases join Theesfeld’s defense

 

[Quill]

Wow, it might be time to update these forms, don't you think? Strange.

I am not sure what you mean?

 

[JBMDC]

Except defense doesn't believe he's guilty.

BT's lawyers said he will plead not guilty.

And that was my question -- what saith the defense?

Self defense?

Real killer running loose?

If the defense has an alibi or any solid evidence that BT was not the killer, they should share it sooner rather than later, because if he did not do it then a brutal murderer is still out there.

 

[Quill]

Except defense doesn't believe he's guilty.

BT's lawyers said he will plead not guilty.

And that was my question -- what saith the defense?

Self defense?

Real killer running loose?

I predict he will try to say it was a drug deal gone bad and the "real killer" was his drug source. JMO and all that. I really hope there is enough evidence to refute any and all stories his team tries to concoct.

 

[JBMDC]

I predict he will try to say it was a drug deal gone bad and the "real killer" was his drug source. JMO and all that. I really hope there is enough evidence to refute any and all stories his team tries to concoct.

He would have to produce text messages or some evidence to support that. The texts and calls on his phone and her phone are going to establish what was going on. And, of course, why would his drug dealer shoot her multiple times and let him go without a scratch? And if he was innocent, why would BT drive off and leave her body there, not call 911, and then chill and tweet about "You Dropped a Bomb on Me"? Wouldn't he think the drug dealer would be after him, so wouldn't he want the drug dealer arrested and charged with the murder immediately?

 

[Gsmithson]

Except defense doesn't believe he's guilty.

BT's lawyers said he will plead not guilty.

And that was my question -- what saith the defense?

Self defense?

Real killer running loose?

The defense saying he will plead not guilty and the defense not believing he’s guilty are two very different things! The defense doesn’t have to believe he’s not guilty for him to plead not guilty. Just want to throw that out there

 

[Quill]

He would have to produce text messages or some evidence to support that. The texts and calls on his phone and her phone are going to establish what was going on. And, of course, why would his drug dealer shoot her multiple times and let him go without a scratch? And if he was innocent, why would BT drive off and leave her body there, not call 911, and then chill and tweet about "You Dropped a Bomb on Me"? Wouldn't he think the drug dealer would be after him, so wouldn't he want the drug dealer arrested and charged with the murder immediately?

I never said it was a good story, I just said I can see it coming. I can be pretty creative in finding answers to your questions, but of course, without knowing the evidence currently against him, it would be a moot point in pursuing. You also never know who is reading here.

They clearly have something cooked up by pleading not guilty and his father stating that his son didn't do it, don't you think? What are your ideas for his defense?

 

[afitzy]

I never said it was a good story, I just said I can see it coming. I can be pretty creative in finding answers to your questions, but of course, without knowing the evidence currently against him, it would be a moot point in pursuing. You also never know who is reading here.

They clearly have something cooked up by pleading not guilty and his father stating that his son didn't do it, don't you think? What are your ideas for his defense?

Do we know if the suspects truck/car/vehicle was impounded when he was arrested and returned to Oxford or perhaps taken to the State Crime Lab in MS?

Do we even know if the State Police are involved with the case or is it being handled in Oxford by local police?

I would think that given the ground situation at the site where the body was found that tire tracks would be in evidence so this could go a long way to proving that the suspect was at the location with the body and the State has this information and will present it to the Grand Jury. If the suspect had been driving around with the victim in the hours before the murder as seems to be the case from the video footage at the gas station then it might follow that cell phone pings from victim and suspect might put them on a path that evening that could be tracked by LE. I would hope that all this data is compiled at this point and will be presented to the Grand Jury.

Perhaps the defense is going to make the move to prove suspect location by cell phone at another location perhaps far away from the victim and the park location? Or perhaps the suspect will 'locate' another person to provide an alibi or perhaps CCTV exists of suspect in another location that would fit the timeline to say that he couldn't have committed the murder? Doing a bit of research on the defense team leads me to believe that we will sadly be treated to some first order victim shaming/blaming and potentially doubt casting information as to the whereabouts of both the suspect and the victim on the evening/early am of the murder.

All speculation on my part as no public info on any of this.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

He would have to produce text messages or some evidence to support that. The texts and calls on his phone and her phone are going to establish what was going on. And, of course, why would his drug dealer shoot her multiple times and let him go without a scratch? And if he was innocent, why would BT drive off and leave her body there, not call 911, and then chill and tweet about "You Dropped a Bomb on Me"? Wouldn't he think the drug dealer would be after him, so wouldn't he want the drug dealer arrested and charged with the murder immediately?

I hope the tweets and social media have all been screen shot as my guess is that they will be in the ether soon if not already!

 

[Seattle1]

Yes, but the form specifically said Murder and I read this to be singular.

My question though is if they are taking this to the Grand Jury for Murder (singular) and it turns out that this tragic case actually involves Murders (plural) then do they have to go back to the Grand Jury again? Is this just an maneuver to delay the prosecution process even further?

In reading about the Grand Jury process there seems to be a good bit of time involved in calling the jury and then setting the hearing process schedule. We are already seeing this scheduling issue play out in the amount of time that has passed since the arrest until the case is heard by the Grand Jury.

It just seems that if the DA (who I believe is trying this case) knows its a Murders (plural) case why not use this information at the Grand Jury meeting that is presently scheduled? Or, can the DA change the charge to Murders (plural) in the upcoming scheduled Grand Jury meeting and because the court is non public the change in charges would only be revealed if the DA chose to reveal the information?

I don't understand the reason for the secrecy around the charges given that the autopsy is done and most likely just pending some additional reports at this time.

Does the DA really plan to attempt to try this case outside the public eye?

Information about defense counsel:
Attorneys from high profile cases join Theesfeld’s defense

Not sure of your reference.

The forms we are referring to were signed July 22 (i.e., Arrest Warrant & Affidavit).

The autopsy was not complete for July 20 murder date of victim AK when above issued.

Nonetheless, I believe "Murder" is the code citation regardless of the number of victims.

I'm not seeing anything improper with the Grand Jury reveal or schedule.

Grand juries have 'broad investigative power and wide latitude in conducting an investigation.'

Rule 13.2 Instructions, Duties, and Powers of Grand Jury provides for the following:

....(b) Examination of County Records. The grand jury shall have free access at all proper hours to the papers, records, accounts and books of all county officers for all examinations which it may see fit to make, and may make report to the court in relation thereto.

MOO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Interesting, she was shot 8 times in the abdomen and a friend of his said he carried a glock that contained 8 rounds. If so, I see a feticide charge coming!

I disagree. I just don't think he had the balls to shoot her in the face/head. JMO.