MS - Disturbing Video of boy abusing baby

[tlcya]

I watched the linked FB one but did not read the story that was linked. I got no malware or virus warning and a scan of my puter shows all is well.

I do not recommend watching the video - the thread title is correct, it was highly disturbing and upsetting to watch. I worried all last nigh about this boy and the many and myriad possible victims he has harmed along the way since this video was taken. Couldn't get it out of my head. Once seen it cannot be unseen.

 

[Elley Mae]

Well after reading the 20 comments I know better then to watch the video. Some things are best left unseen.

 

[poppyfrock]

Well, I watched. I almost cried. Somehow I didn't. I am going through a terrible time in my life right now. I was physically abused by my older brother for YEARS. I am now in my 30's and am JUST NOW dealing with it. Oh, I have had major problems my whole life I just didn't realize they were a result of the abuse until recently. Ever since I have been facing the abuse my mind has been a nightmare. This little boy reminds me of my brother. My brother is an adult now. No criminal record, however, he is still abusive. It's just now he is abusive towards his girlfriends. I wish one of them would press charges against him.

It sounds like the boy's family is blaming the victims. He did it because an 11 month old scratched him? What the? My parents never stopped my brother from abusing me either. They blamed me "for making him mad." I don't believe this child will get better when his parents are blaming 11 month old babies for his terrible actions. Sorry to go on and on this was very upsetting to me. It brought up a lot of bad memories and bad emotions.

 

[Elley Mae]

Well, I watched. I almost cried. Somehow I didn't. I am going through a terrible time in my life right now. I was physically abused by my older brother for YEARS. I am now in my 30's and am JUST NOW dealing with it. Oh, I have had major problems my whole life I just didn't realize they were a result of the abuse until recently. Ever since I have been facing the abuse my mind has been a nightmare. This little boy reminds me of my brother. My brother is an adult now. No criminal record, however, he is still abusive. It's just now he is abusive towards his girlfriends. I wish one of them would press charges against him.

It sounds like the boy's family is blaming the victims. He did it because an 11 month old scratched him? What the? My parents never stopped my brother from abusing me either. They blamed me "for making him mad." I don't believe this child will get better when his parents are blaming 11 month old babies for his terrible actions. Sorry to go on and on this was very upsetting to me. It brought up a lot of bad memories and bad emotions.

Poppyfrock, I am so sorry for what your brother put you though. I do hope that you will soon find that you can and will rise above it. One day at a time poppy, one day at a time. :seeya:

 

[poppyfrock]

Poppyfrock, I am so sorry for what your brother put you though. I do hope that you will soon find that you can and will rise above it. One day at a time poppy, one day at a time. :seeya:

Thank you very much for your kind words, Elley Mae. I have only recently admitted to myself that I was abused and my parents allowed it. They didn't protect me. It hurts very much but I am fighting to get through this. I don't want to derail the thread, but your kind words mean a lot to me. *hugs*

It seems the adult on the video isn't looking when the boy is abusing the children but can't she HEAR the abuse? At least some of it? Is this a case of the adults looking the other way? (like my parents) Or is she generally oblivious because she doesn't see it? Perhaps she heard a ruckus and when she turned around she thought they were just horsing around? But surely there would be evidence of abuse. Marks and bruises, maybe even blood.

Was he banned from the daycare? Is he in a new daycare? I wonder where he is now? *shudder to think*

ETA: I read the article and see he is no longer attending the daycare. I wonder if he attends a different one or if he stays at home? I hope there are no siblings or other little kids wherever he is staying.

 

[tlcya]

:hug: poppyfrock. I am so sorry you were treated like that by your brother and that your parents chose to turn a blind eye. That must have left you feeling so hurt and on your own. Sounds as if that caused you to think poorly of yourself and seek out ways in which to derail yourself along the way.

I know that the things you are facing by recognizing your past trauma are difficult. The emotions have been there and needed to be felt and acknowledged. That is hard stuff to deal with. Some days facing the traumas of the past feel as if you are just making things worse, stirring up old deeply buried negative emotions. But you need to go through them. Hiding never works. Kudos to you for your self examination of late and your ability to recognize some of the things from your childhood and the ways they continue to affect your life.

I don't know that I will be back to this thread. That video still deeply upsets me but I wanted to say thank you for sharing, and wish you all the best in sorting out the past from your future.

 

[poppyfrock]

RSBM

I know that the things you are facing by recognizing your past trauma are difficult. The emotions have been there and needed to be felt and acknowledged. That is hard stuff to deal with. Some days facing the traumas of the past feel as if you are just making things worse, stirring up old deeply buried negative emotions.

This is how I've been feeling exactly, but I know I'll never improve if I don't go through the emotions. I appreciate your supportive words. Is there a thread on websleuths for survivors of abuse? Just curious.

I will say that my dad abused my mom and us kids sometimes. No doubt that is where my brother learned to be a violent <modsnip>. Only he is much more violent than my dad ever was. I think there is NO WAY this child in the video has not witnessed or been abused himself. Unless he was just born a psychopath.

OK, I am done talking about myself here, I hope all these kids get some help. Who knows if there is hope for the violent one, but hopefully something can be done.

Thanks again for the kind words tlcya and Elley Mae.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Did anyone report this to LE.

 

[tlcya]

I do no know if there is one already for childhood abuse victims but if there isn't there sure should be.

There is one about survivors of rape and child sex abuse and it is really helpful to just unload with others who get it, They are a great supportive group of members who remind one another they are not alone in what they are feeling. you are always welcome to share there even if your abuse was not of that specific sort.

 

[kmclaren]

Well after reading the 20 comments I know better then to watch the video. Some things are best left unseen.

Well I wish I had known better too - I watched it last night and then had nightmares about that boy. That is really frightening to see and how sneaky he was, then able to sit there and look as if nothing were going on when the caregiver came over - how could she not notice those poor little ones crying out. I only hope it was caught right away and they didn't suffer at his hands for a long time. And let's hope he is in a more controlled environment and getting some help and support for whatever evil exists in him...

 

[Ausgirl]

Evil.. well. Learned violence, more likely. Hatred of himself and others, ingrained in him by his worthless parents, most likely. Look at how they are quick to blame a BABY for thier son's behaviour. Not themselves...no, I bet they think they're not responsible at all. It's sickening. I hope they are investigated by all appropriate authorities, as that NINE year old child they raised to beat babies needs to be away from the monsters who created him..

 

[Linda7NJ]

Well, I watched. I almost cried. Somehow I didn't. I am going through a terrible time in my life right now. I was physically abused by my older brother for YEARS. I am now in my 30's and am JUST NOW dealing with it. Oh, I have had major problems my whole life I just didn't realize they were a result of the abuse until recently. Ever since I have been facing the abuse my mind has been a nightmare. This little boy reminds me of my brother. My brother is an adult now. No criminal record, however, he is still abusive. It's just now he is abusive towards his girlfriends. I wish one of them would press charges against him.

It sounds like the boy's family is blaming the victims. He did it because an 11 month old scratched him? What the? My parents never stopped my brother from abusing me either. They blamed me "for making him mad." I don't believe this child will get better when his parents are blaming 11 month old babies for his terrible actions. Sorry to go on and on this was very upsetting to me. It brought up a lot of bad memories and bad emotions.

Huge (((((hug)))))

 

[poppyfrock]

Thank you Linda7nj!

So, I am curious what happens in cases like these? I read he is no longer attending the daycare, but is that it, I wonder? You can't come back to daycare? Or would there be some sort of court ordered counseling, as well?

 

[popsicle]

Thank you Linda7nj!

So, I am curious what happens in cases like these? I read he is no longer attending the daycare, but is that it, I wonder? You can't come back to daycare? Or would there be some sort of court ordered counseling, as well?

The last news I found said that social services was investigating, I believe. I do know that the father of the child that was bitten said his baby had come home all week with different marks and injuries and when he went to the daycare to confront them this boy pointed at another child as the culprit. That is when the daycare checked their video and called police.

Hugs to you.

 

[HMSHood]

I wonder if the the boy has some issues at home. Sounds like a future criminal to me, perhaps a serial killer or worse. :stormingmad:

 

[FigTree]

That child is already cunning enough to know how to avert blame - he knows how to inflict pain and where to inflict it - he knows how to plan an attack - he knows how to choose a victim (and more than one) - he knows when to strike repeatedly - and he chose small younger defenseless females while they were in a protective environment.

10 years from now ... repeat all of the above and possibly murder (if he hasnt already killed small animals) ... and this 9 y.o boy will never be caught down the track because he is already good at what he does.

Is there not some form of public or collective civil lawsuit that can be made against all who had anything to do with this?

Save this boy and it might just save the lives and misery of countless others.
:stormingmad:

 

[peedoffinny]

That video scared the beejeebus out of me. This kid should be taken away and given severe in patient therapy and should never be let out in the public unless he is cured. I predict many defenseless girls, boys and women will be hurt and killed by him in the future if something doesn't change drastically. He seems very well 'practiced' for a 9 year old, I can't imagine him at 20.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm a little stunned at the reaction. Typically stories like this are minimized and excuses made.
Stuff like this and worse happens everyday ... Sadly there isn't video, just the victims word.

I can't help but think its because people can see with their own eyes. Would you feel the same if you just read about it? Or is it the video that convinced everyone that he was cunning and dangerous?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Thank you Linda7nj!

So, I am curious what happens in cases like these? I read he is no longer attending the daycare, but is that it, I wonder? You can't come back to daycare? Or would there be some sort of court ordered counseling, as well?

Typically CPS will not get involved in child on child crime. IMO the only reason they did was because the media got involved and everyone's seen the video. If anything that child was offered outpatient therapy, and maybe some wrap around "in home" services. I am not confident in the states ability to rectify or treat this child.

All IMO

 

[Sonya610]

I'm a little stunned at the reaction. Typically stories like this are minimized and excuses made.
Stuff like this and worse happens everyday ... Sadly there isn't video, just the victims word.

I can't help but think its because people can see with their own eyes. Would you feel the same if you just read about it? Or is it the video that convinced everyone that he was cunning and dangerous?

I think you are right, the harsher reactions are a result of people actually SEEING IT. Many here strongly identify with children (and "teens") and see them as always the sweet and innocent victim so if they only read it they would be likely be saying "some one abused the poor child and he needs to be coddled, he could be special needs and not able to help it etc...." the poor child had to be abused/victimized so he needs our sympathy.

I personally think genes play just as much of a part in it as environment, the kid probably has some hard core violent criminal relatives which explains why his family thinks "he acts normal" when on his meds and yes those traits are inherited.