MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #2

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Jessica's mother, Lisa Chambers, said her daughter called home Saturday evening to tell her she was going to "get a bite to eat."

The next time Lisa Chambers saw her daughter, she said, was in the hospital.

“[She] said ‘Bye, I love you, Mama. See you in a little while.’ Next time I seen her, she was in the Med,” Lisa Chambers said.

Article dated 10th Dec http://www.local8now.com/home/headlines/Authorities-searching-for-whoever-set-Mississippi-girl-on-fire-285160651.html

WREG met with Lisa Chambers, Jessica’s mother, Monday at a funeral home, after she finalized plans for her daughter’s burial.

Chambers said her daughter lived with her, and Jessica planned to go get her car cleaned Saturday evening. She spoke with her daughter on the phone around 6:48 p.m., and Jessica said she was going to get a bite to eat

Article dated 8th Dec http://wreg.com/2014/12/08/search-is-on-for-killer-who-lit-panola-county-teenager-on-fire/

If I may add to that, the mom states that she called at 6:48 and that she spoke to Jessica "for about 20 minutes."
 
  • #802
Groups work to increase reward in Jessica Chambers case

The streets are quiet on the 19-year-old's case, and now plans are in the works to increase the reward money to around $30,000 to get someone to come forward with new information.

District Attorney John Champion says the reward currently remains at $11,000. Private groups have committed to raising that to $29,000, but are waiting on paperwork before it's official.
 
  • #803
Could the gas station be the location of the party?
 
  • #804
If I may add to that, the mom states that she called at 6:48 and that she spoke to Jessica for about 20 minutes.

WOW that is a long conversation......JMO
 
  • #805
If an accelerant was used to start the car fire and Jessica died as a result of that.. that would be murder, correct?

LE has stated an accelerant was used, they were unsure of what kind at time of article

Absolutely. In fact it could be a capital murder case and death penalty qualified.

Meaning, the suspect was in the commission of another felony (first degree arson) when the felony murder of Jessica happened.

IMO
 
  • #806
"Jessica’s mom, Lisa Chambers, has phone conversation with Jessica at 6:48pm (Jessica is going to get something to eat)"
This is the first I've heard that Jessica was going to get something to eat....she's always said JC went to wash her car, nothing more, IIRC

She's always maintained it was "wash her car out, grab something to eat." It hasn't changed, the reporting has.

If I may add to that, the mom states that she called at 6:48 and that she spoke to Jessica for about 20 minutes.
I didn't find that through the links provided. Was that said in a news video?
 
  • #807
I was looking at the time frame that a kind poster posted up thread. It was what, 90 minutes? From the time she was seen on the gas station video to being discovered? From what Flatfootjoe observed of the car's condition, the estimated burn time was 20-30 minutes IIRC? So that leaves an hour? In that hour, she supposedly went to a party and "they, she" left the party, ends up at that remote location?

I am missing something. Has it been verified she went to the "party"? Could she have just gone and then left? Did someone force her to leave the party if she even went? I haven't heard on MSM if the "partygoers" were interviewed by LE. I have just read that Derrick was picked up on a parole violation and held for 48 hours while they questioned him about JC IIRC.
 
  • #808
Wish we knew for certain what accelerant(or accelerants) were used to start the blaze. I don't imagine we will get much more from LE on that. At least until there is an arrest made. Maybe not even then. Hopefully, there is DNA evidence linking someone to this crime.
 
  • #809
The following is an updated timeline which was originally posted by SwampMama, then updated by me yesterday.
I am updating it again today based upon the discovery of a Youtube Camera01 & Camera05 video** which details Jessica's arrival at 06:24:39. My new additions (or corrections) are in red.


1) Jessica arrives at M&M First Stop Gas at 06:24:39pm
2) her car comes to a complete stop at the pump 06:24:45pm
3) Exits car 06:25:28, approaches store, then walks out of frame at 06:25:48pm
until 06:27:02pm
4) Enters store at 6:27:15 pays (for gas?) then exits store at 6:28:15pm
5) Arrives back at car 6:28:27pm
6) Opens car door, either places something inside or uses interior latch to access gas tank from 06:28:29 to 06:28:40
7) Pumps gas from 06:28:50 until 06:29:40pm (video footage abruptly stops)
8) Gets in car and drives away -- estimated time now around 6:32pm?
9) Jessica’s mom, Lisa Chambers, has phone conversation with Jessica at 6:48pm (Jessica is going to get something to eat)
10) Fire Department respond to a 911 call at 8:13pm (Jessica Discovered)


If I understand the timeline correctly, Jessica left home and said she was going to clean her car, but then phoned her mother after leaving the gas station and said she was getting food. So something changed between leaving home and calling her mom. A thought I have, and this is not meant to insinuate she is a druggie or anything because I don't believe so and I'm only referencing Marijuana which is legal where I am and less taboo. Is it possible the person she talked with off camera didn't give her/sell her weed? She would likely be hungry after, and would account for her parking in an obscure spot to smoke. I know I have "walked the dog" and come back home and eaten some cookies or pizza. :) Cleaning the car could have been her go to excuse. I do not judge her for this activity at all JMO. Note:: I know this off camera person has been cleared but I'm guessing that was cleared for murder, and likely would have not charged him for selling weed if he cooperated.

If this car wash was indeed not an excuse.....I saw posted by a local that there was a self service car wash close to where she was found, not the one 9 miles north. Is that confirmed? (sorry no link) There was a self service car wash by where I grew up and you could always find kids there Fri and Sat around that time cleaning their cars/rims etc before going out for the night. As a teen with my girlfriends we would swing by to see if anyone was there early on that we liked or that could get us booze since it was always unsupervised. This was in a relatively small town with less to do as well. I recall that there were no cameras at this car wash and wonder *IF* there is a close by wash, are we not hearing about it because there is no footage or proof she was there? It would seem an easy place to run into someone who needed a ride or someone who slipped into her back seat before heading home. Just some speculation.

I get so caught up in cases like this because I just narrowly escaped being a statistic as a teen, and it breaks my heart to see a happy nice girl just like myself at 19 get hurt like this. Predator would be a kind adjective for this person. Preying on kindness and naivety is just disgusting to me. :(
 
  • #810
After watching the fire chief speak in the video a couple of pages back I can't help but wonder what is making him nervous enough to rock the heck out of that chair......

The rocking chair is very soothing therapy for someone who must attend to uncomfortable situations such as fires which engulf human beings. Then to have to discus it with someone....
 
  • #811
Wish we knew for certain that JESSICA drove away from the gas station area alone. We have her arriving, walking in, walking off frame, being in the store. . . but never leaving the gas station. I am NOT placing blame on the gas station here, at all, but I do have problems with not seeing her drive off. We have all these moments of her there, but not her leaving. I wonder why that is?

If she happened to of gone to the car wash around the corner, the one Main (south-west of M&M), that's walkable from the gas station. Roughly 15 minutes on foot.

Did she plan on that car wash? Earlier reports have her mother saying she was doing that in Batesville, which is north of M&M.

Batesville is in the total opposite direction.

If this car wash was indeed not an excuse.....I saw posted by a local that there was a self service car wash close to where she was found, not the one 9 miles north. Is that confirmed? (sorry no link) There was a self service car wash by where I grew up and you could always find kids there Fri and Sat around that time cleaning their cars/rims etc before going out for the night.

It is confirmed, I found it on google maps. It is small (2 stations), doesn't look like it would be lit at night, and may not even be in operation according to some reports.

There seems to be a church and what seems like an auto body shop across the street from it. You would think cameras would be there.

Main St, where the wash is located, turns into Herron. Herron, further west, is where her car was found on fire.
 
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I was looking at the time frame that a kind poster posted up thread. It was what, 90 minutes? From the time she was seen on the gas station video to being discovered? From what Flatfootjoe observed of the car's condition, the estimated burn time was 20-30 minutes IIRC? So that leaves an hour? In that hour, she supposedly went to a party and "they, she" left the party, ends up at that remote location?

I am missing something. Has it been verified she went to the "party"? Could she have just gone and then left? Did someone force her to leave the party if she even went? I haven't heard on MSM if the "partygoers" were interviewed by LE. I have just read that Derrick was picked up on a parole violation and held for 48 hours while they questioned him about JC IIRC.

Flatfootjoe's 20-30 minutes are a part of the 90-minute drama; they can not be subtracted as you have done.
 
  • #814
zuri, there is no confirmation that she went to any party that i know of.

just her aunt's comments which dont amount to much since she never states she personally saw her at a party.
 
  • #815

Thank you for that. I never update my Flash, so I have to deal with zero videos on some cases.

Makes me wonder, where was she for those 20 minutes? Was she driving? Was she alone?
Certainly you don't go to a get-together and then talk to your mother on the phone for that long, would you?

*head scratch
 
  • #816
Wish we knew for certain what accelerant(or accelerants) were used to start the blaze. I don't imagine we will get much more from LE on that. At least until there is an arrest made. Maybe not even then. Hopefully, there is DNA evidence linking someone to this crime.

Hopefully, they checked for fingerprints on the phone and/or battery if they found it, BEFORE a bunch of people handled it. Presumably, it went into an evidence bag immediately. We shall see. JMO
 
  • #817
Arson is a criminal act. It is legally defined as deliberately or intentionally setting property on fire. This would rule out accident if they are investigating arson.

You may be absolutely correct about that but I notice the Mississippi State Fire Marshal uses "arson investigation" instead of the more precise (IMO) "fire investigation."

https://www.mid.ms.gov/state_fire_marshal/fire_investigations.aspx

State Chief Deputy Fire Marshal shall be a person qualified by experience and training and thoroughly knowledgeable in the areas of arson investigation and prevention, fire prevention, fire fighting and the training of firemen.

The Fire Official or his duly authorized agent shall investigate promptly the cause, origin and circumstances of each and every fire occurring in his jurisdiction involving loss of life or injury to person or destruction or damage to property, and if it appears that such fire is of suspicious origin, the Fire Official shall take immediate charge of all physical evidence relating to the cause of the fire and shall pursue the investigation to its conclusion. A report in writing shall be of all facts and findings relative to each investigation.
 
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Thank you for that. I never update my Flash, so I have to deal with zero videos on some cases.

Makes me wonder, where was she for those 20 minutes? Was she driving? Was she alone?
Certainly you don't go to a get-together and then talk to your mother on the phone for that long, would you?

*head scratch

Makes me wonder too. She pulls away from the video surveillance at approximately 06:32 (estimate) and 16-mins later at 06:48 (according to her mother) she is involved in a 20-min phone call. Interesting. The scene of the crime is approximately 12-mins drive from M&M Gas.
 
  • #820
There are few cases on WS that I get so passionate about and feel like somehow, in this way, I can make a difference. They always leave me feeling so utterly helpless.

I feel so much for the friends and family of Jessica. I wish I could do more. I wish we all at WS could do more.

Either this case has way more information than we know or could handle, or there is nothing.

I hate the waiting in the meantime to know which one of them they are.
 
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