MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #3

[anonone]

Maybe it is just me but the females are awful quiet in this one.

Females have not been quiet.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

People are putting a lot of weight on Tutor's reaction when they were questioned how they knew Jessica. They're probably collecting and sequencing DNA as a just in case measure. IIRC I read here that even just a differential DNA analysis would take weeks. You know what though, it has been weeks now.

Well, now I'm going to have to watch!!

 

[SoHelpMeGod]

In general, it is my understanding that such places are generally 501(c)3 organizations that provide biblical foundation, social support, future planning, sense of purpose, accountability and are non-intervention and non-medical. Their mission and vision is usually to help women ages 18 and over who have been incarcerated, deal with addictions, behavioral problems, self-harm, depression, or other issues in life. The women attend free of charge and are generally sponsored by local churches. They live together in a house and can only leave the house with a supervisor for a specific purpose and limited period of time.

Like this one for example (?):
http://www.leahsrestorationhouse.org/

 

[flatfootjoe]

You're posts are very interesting...
Why do you think they visited the crime scene afterwards?
Why do you think they dress the same as Jessica?

Not to answer for anonone, but I will offer what I know. Murderers and arsonists, unlike other criminals actually do tend to return to the scene of the crime. The absolute worst of the psychopaths they actually derive pleasure and excitement "reliving" the event where a physical connection exists.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

Like this one for example (?):
http://www.leahsrestorationhouse.org/

Is there a length of time one would normally stay in a program such as that?

 

[anonone]

Does anyone know if the FBI have been to Sonic in Batesville?

 

[1&2&3]

Quite a smirk.

ETA Hope he is being truthful about LE collecting DNA. That's promising to me.

Did they collect her DNA too?

IMO, both of these people look scary and I would not want to be on their bad side.

 

[DeDee]

I think she was not clothed - hence the young female recognition. I also think she was not severely burned all over her body - she was recognizable. obviously burned badly enough in areas to succumb to the burns, but possibly recognizable.

I do not believe he recognized her face. She told him who she was. Jessica had a closed casket which indicates even the best mortician could not make her face appear peacefully serene. It was unpresentable to viewers.

MOO

I cannot let go of the Ali interview. There were many inconsistencies and self-corrections. He smiled at inappropriate times. When asked about the tow truck driver, Ali laughed and said, "It's funny. Ya know. The tow driver is a customer, too." His arms crossed over his chest is indicative of self-protection; self-soothing. A main concern of his was that he would be placed on the No Fly list. How many times annually did he fly into Yemen?

Ali seemed likeable in his interview. However, (modsnip)

 

[SoHelpMeGod]

Is there a length of time one would normally stay in a program such as that?

I don't know, but as a Bible believer I think it seems like a wonderful ministry!

 

[flatfootjoe]

I don't know, but as a Bible believer I think it sounds like a wonderful ministry!

I think it's a one year program IIRC

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

I'm not a bible believer, but I am always for positive programs. We could use one of those places around here. Too many young girls needing/wanting direction, but just not knowing where to turn.

 

[1&2&3]

Is there a length of time one would normally stay in a program such as that?

The question is regarding www.leahsrestorationhouse.org. This is the information from their website:

"Our mission is to provide adult women with a 12 month Biblical foundation for approaching problems. Our discipleship program teaches women to look to the Word of God for answers".

Now the question is, how long was she there? Since she just graduated high school June 2013, did she spend 12 months?

 

[roadrunnermt]

and Jerrick, Kedrick, and Ssedrick (sic) and those just off the top off my head. They seam to enjoy the rick out of things down there.

(modsnip)

I'm confused I believe on some dates as I have seen some referenced to the abusive ex was two years ago but perhaps that is it lasted two years because I thought I saw from around age 17-19 that she lived with the ex and ex's family; however, she just only recently (reported two months) got out of the battered womens' shelter so was there another abusive relationship or was she still living in fear of someone and/or needing the shelter's services.

I am also wondering if the choking incident was with a male. I am not aware of many female-on-female choking incidences. That leads me to think it was likely an abusive male partner/friend she had the choking incident with the week before and if that is the case it also might be way she didn't speak to the other guys in the store when she checked out. Even if they were *friends* she may not have even acknowledged them there enough to speak, afraid the jealous spouse might be watching her yet again. Could also explain he saddened/sunken, non-bubbly behavior at the store also.

 

[anonone]

Regarding choking, what is "Choke or Stroke?"

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

Regarding choking, what is "Choke or Stroke?"

No idea. I will have to look that up

 

[flatfootjoe]

Regarding choking, what is "Choke or Stroke?"

Autoerotic asphyxiation?

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

that is what I thought too, ffj. But that would be choke AND stroke, not choke or stroke. Or is it the same?

 

[flatfootjoe]

*poof*

I mean if you look at it grammatically, it can only mean two things, one or the other.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

First off, why would it have to be an ER doctor sharing such difficult details/info with her father when advising of her death? --- it's more plausible to me that the attending ER doc would have been providing the family with frequent updates....and I don't think there's anything wrong or lawsuit-worthy *if* an attending ER doc tells the family member of a gravely ill patient what he's observed upon doing an assessment. My understanding is that she was there at the hospital for at least a couple of hours, that she didn't arrive there deceased, she was alive when she arrived and the did spend at least a couple of hours treating her/trying to save her life. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a doctor revealing difficult info to a parent/family member; in this case (if true), that it appears some kind of accelerant was poured down her throat/up her nose. Maybe this info was revealed because they were unable to intubate her (put in a breathing tube, down the mouth/throat into airways) due to severe swelling in the back of the throat/unable to visual vocal cords due to severe trauma/swelling to the cords due (from accelerant/burns).......and instead they had to insert a trach instead....and the doctor was asked by the family why they were unable to intubate her....and that's when the doc explained that there were burns in throat, swelling, vocal cords swollen, etc. Why on earth would an ER doc be terminated and the medical facility he was working at be at risk for a lawsuit all because he shared his observations of patient with her immediate family?

Her father says the doctors told him that. He is a grief-stricken father so I won't go into his credibility or the other claims he has publicly made.

I don't believe any ER doctor would tell a family such a horrific tale when advising them of a loved one's death. If a doctor did in fact tell the family such a thing, I expect he has already been discharged and a lawsuit against the medical center is pending.

 

[wfgodot]

Her father says the doctors told him that. He is a grief-stricken father so I won't go into his credibility or the other claims he has publicly made.

I don't believe any ER doctor would tell a family such a horrific tale when advising them of a loved one's death. If a doctor did in fact tell the family such a thing, I expect he has already been discharged and a lawsuit against the medical center is pending.

Exactly, and well-said.