MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #3

[epiphany]

IF it's not theory (an excellent one IMO), poster may need to get verified if providing insider information...

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

Speculation or knowledge of the investigation? Either way, the scenario is very plausible. You are referencing Wilkerson?

 

[octobermoon]

BBM

I tend to agree with you...but a damn good writer and presents an interesting theory!

Kinda hinky to post and run tho. JMO

 

[4senthia]

Mineral spirits is a good guess. Also baby oil mixed w/flammable substances as referenced before. Alford pleas don't make me happy, but if given to one suspect who is willing to talk in order to get the one/s who did the actual murder (violence) convicted then I could stomach it. There is definitely violence in Jessica's past according to MSM stories linked previously. She was in the process of being strong for herself IMO and someone/s hated that for whatever reason. Narcotic abusers are generally paranoid and can react violently when their paranoia kicks in. Perhaps JC was beginning to "out" some of the dealers she was aware of and this is the result. Turning dealers in is a brave thing to do because it can save so many other lives now and in the future.

 

[octobermoon]

I wasn't sure exactly what mineral spirits were, so I googled. Wow! My thought is that if Auntie was involved, she will crumble. Has she been publicly cleared?

Who's Auntie? TIA

 

[absentia]

Thanks for pointing this out! This is the second reference to "they" in describing details surrounding Jessica. The first "they" is Charlotte Wilkerson's comment in her interview with Janice Broach of WBTV ( see this thread, or click click here for the interview).

isn't it strange that the police told AA what happened to JC? isn't that usually kept quiet as part of an investigation? esp the details like that? the fact that AA states that he knows bc the police told him is extra added info which is not needed unless you are not being truthful. JC's ex bf BR says a similar thing in his brief interview - something like "that's how I know bc the police told me".

What I don't get is that if JC told the first responder who killed her, why is no one arrested? still looking for evidence I guess? she is not a witness bc she is not able to testify?
Could the first responder have said that she told him a name as a red herring or as a way to frame someone? it's weird that info came out so early along with the accelerant being in her throat. no one was told not to report these sensitive details to the public?

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

Charlotte Wilkerson. She was questioned. This explains why

http://wreg.com/2014/12/09/investigators-no-one-is-in-custody-for-death-of-jessica-chambers/

 

[octobermoon]

Maybe I missed it, but is it a fact she was an addict/drug problems of some sort in the past?

 

[ZOOL]

For those of you unfamiliar, Google Earth is just an amazing thing. I could spend hours on there just looking around on 'Street View'.

At that, if you go to street view and take a look at the site of the car burning, what do you make of it?

[snip]

Over the course of the past week, I have spent a great deal of time using Google Maps, and street views, in order to determine how precisely Jessica got to the crime scene; and moreover why -- if she had been on her way to wash her car, and to get food.

Although Google has been an excellent tool, I have come to realize that the closer one tries to magnify a map he can NOT trust the addresses, or the longitude/latitude coordinates. On the other hand, if he knows where he is going, and uses "Street View" to drive to that precise location, then the rotated views will give him a complete view of his surroundings.

Keeping this in mind, driving directly from M&M Gas to the crime scene, there is no logical explanation for why Jessica's car should have ended at that location. Simply put, the car wash at the railroad crossing on 718 W (across from the Courtland Volunteer Fire Dept.) may be a DIY "Speedy Car Wash" but there are no recognizable food establishments nearby .

A more appropriate route for food and a car wash would take Chambers from the M&M beyond Rt 718 W (and much farther down US 51) to JD's Quick Stop. There she would have access to food, a car wash, and an ATM machine. However returning from there necessitates a reason beyond food, and a car wash, for driving to Herron Road.

Accessing Herron Road, driving north to the crime scene (rather than south from the Courtland Volunteer Fire Dept.) is a very time-consuming and circuitous route which makes little sense.

So the question remains: Why was Jessica's car on Herron Road?

 

[Foxfire]

RE: “I’ve been doing this 21 years now. And as far as the manner of death, this is certainly one of the worst I’ve ever dealt with,” DA John Champion said.
<BBM & sniped from article link> http://wreg.com/2014/12/09/investigators-no-one-is-in-custody-for-death-of-jessica-chambers/
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From observations of patterns from researching sexual predators and psychopathic serial killers from the 1980's CA speed freak killers to the present.
There seems to be the one common denominator; methamphetamine use/abuse. From Pastors to Politicians, seems that no one is exemt. Meth appears to be the primary catalyst for psychopaths to act out their fantasies, while creating psychopathic tendencies in otherwise normal personalities..imo

Just my opinion and observations..
In the (TN) Holly Bobo abduction/murder, TBI Director Mark Gwyn, while addressing the TN Legislature, compared her case to a meth induced horrific murder case from a decade prior.. Imo, it should have been obvious as to the motive and traits of the likely perp/s responsible for her kidnapping on day one...TN was the number one state in the nation for illegal meth lab busts in 2010, and Decatur County, TN was the number one county in TN..

In 2009 there were almost 800 illegal meth labs busted in MS. The Feds ended the funding programs for state and local law enforcement for meth lab clean up's in 2011. In 2012 there were only 5 meth lab busts in MS.. Do the math..
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Blame the brain: Psychopaths are wired differently
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/science-scope/blame-the-brain-psychopaths-are-wired-differently/

The same reward system in the brain that hooks people to drugs might also explain why some people act like psychopaths.
We know that cold-blooded criminals lack empathy and fear &#8212; and are, by societal standards, a bit odd. But new research shows that it is not the traits that psychopaths lack that make them behave badly, it&#8217;s the traits that they do have. Not only are psychopaths impulsive, they like to take risks and seek out rewards.

So-called psychopathic traits have been linked to a disruption in the dopamine reward circuitry in the brain. And it is this disruption that drives psychopaths to want money, sex, or fame, in extreme ways.

First, we got a sample of these community volunteers. Then we measured their psychopathic inventory by giving them a personality test to measure psychopathic traits [ranging from manipulativeness, egocentricity, aggression and risk taking].
We gave them speed. And used positron emission tomography, or PET, to measure dopamine levels in the brain.
The people who scored higher on the measure of psychopathic traits, showed higher dopamine levels in brain reward regions after we gave them the drug.
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There's a lot more to it than that. Psychopaths
are the only real persons, places, things, in
their world. The rest of us are figments of their imagination, in
effect, to be manipulated and used in anyway appropriate and
convenient to their needs.

If they believe it to be ultimately useful
to their purposes to be kind and generous and considerate towards
someone, they will -- without limit, if helpful to their ends -- or
if they believe it to be more convenient to destroy someone, they
will. There is no such thing as truth or lies external to them --
which explains why such persons can readily pass lie detector tests,
for example.

A quasi-religious psychiatrist I knew said they were born without
souls. A philosopher long ago came to literally believe that there
are people in this world who are actually not really human beings,
but who absolutely emulate the real thing and are basically
impossible to recognize as non-human. I think he was trying to
explain the psychopath.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

Maybe I missed it, but is it a fact she was an addict/drug problems of some sort in the past?

You didn't miss it. It is not fact that has been substantiated. I think it was speculation based on a letter she wrote to her niece that her niece posted on Justice for Jessica FB

 

[octobermoon]

You didn't miss it. It is not fact that has been substantiated. I think it was speculation based on a letter she wrote to her niece that her niece posted on Justice for Jessica FB

Thanks, don't think we can post theories based on that then.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

Over the course of the past week, I have spent a great deal of time using Google Maps, and street views, in order to determine how precisely Jessica got to the crime scene; and moreover why -- if she had been on her way to wash her car, and to get food.

Although Google has been an excellent tool, I have come to realize that the closer one tries to magnify a map he can NOT trust the addresses, or the longitude/latitude coordinates. On the other hand, if he knows where he is going, and uses "Street View" to drive to that precise location, then the rotated views will give him a complete view of his surroundings.

Keeping this in mind, driving directly from M&M Gas to the crime scene, there is no logical explanation for why Jessica's car should have ended at that location. Simply put, the car wash at the railroad crossing on 718 W (across from the Courtland Volunteer Fire Dept.) may be a DIY "Speedy Car Wash" but there are no recognizable food establishments nearby .

A more appropriate route for food and a car wash would take Chambers from the M&M beyond Rt 718 W (and much farther down US 51) to JD's Quick Stop. There she would have access to food, a car wash, and an ATM machine. However returning from there necessitates a reason beyond food, and a car wash, for driving to Herron Road.

Accessing Herron Road, driving north to the crime scene (rather than south from the Courtland Volunteer Fire Dept.) is a very time-consuming and circuitous route which makes little sense.

So the question remains: Why was Jessica's car on Herron Road?

Jumping off of your post here, what do you think is the most plausible reason her car ended up where it did? Was there another crime scene? Was she lured to this spot?

 

[ZOOL]

Charlotte Wilkerson. She was questioned. This explains why

http://wreg.com/2014/12/09/investigators-no-one-is-in-custody-for-death-of-jessica-chambers/

An interesting detail regarding both Charlotte Wilkerson and Derrick Turner is their age. Both are 31 years old.

My question is: Why would a young, 19-year-old associate with either party, and call Charlotte "Auntie Sha-Sha"?

Under the circumstances, I consider both POIs.

 

[katydid23]

Jumping off of your post here, what do you think is the most plausible reason her car ended up where it did? Was there another crime scene? Was she lured to this spot?

There are a few homes out there. I wonder if LE has looked at who lives nearby. Could she have been coming to or from one of the residences? I noted that one of the local registered sex offenders, by the name of Derrick, lives nearby. he is also one of the local gangmembers.

 

[Joan Friday]

Regarding Sociopaths/Psychopaths-- too true. Have one in the family and watch him charmingly manipulate or verbally bully family members to get what he wants.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

An interesting detail regarding both Charlotte Wilkerson and Derrick Turner is their age. Both are 31 years old.

My question is: Why would a young, 19-year-old associate with either party, and call Charlotte "Auntie Sha-Sha"?

Under the circumstances, I consider both POIs.

Ironically, I believe they were both questioned, but not sure either one has been cleared? Was DT the one who said he didn't know her like that? I can't remember exactly.

 

[katydid23]

An interesting detail regarding both Charlotte Wilkerson and Derrick Turner is their age. Both are 31 years old.

My question is: Why would a young, 19-year-old associate with either party, and call Charlotte "Auntie Sha-Sha"?

Under the circumstances, I consider both POIs.

Does derrick Turner live in one of the homes near the crime scene?

 

[ZOOL]

Jumping off of your post here, what do you think is the most plausible reason her car ended up where it did? Was there another crime scene? Was she lured to this spot?

I'm not too inclined to speculate but I believe that her car was driven to that remote location, and then hastily set on fire to cover for her murder. A separate crime scene is a possibility.

 

[SuzDuJour]

"UPDATE Dec. 19, 2:00 p.m.: District Attorney John Champion says cell phone evidence is expected within a few hours."

Well now there's time travel involved in this case because it's only the 18th!

LOL....but it's five o'clock somewhere...