MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #3

[Gypsy Road]

Lee Co Sheriff Dept ‏@LCSO_MS Apr 1
Added to Most Wanted:
Janet L Posey
Charge: Food Card Fraud
If you know her whereabouts, please contact us at..http://fb.me/3t6mMN03k

https://twitter.com/LCSO_MS

This scammer/fraudster, wow. I think someone is in for some serious jail time

People are just LOW! Glad they caught that woman and arrested her!!

 

[debirlfan]

Could it be that her distance should be limited to only the extra fuel that she would normally purchase. Being she would still need the normal five dollars for her routine.

In addition, let's not assume she needed all of that extra gas. She might have only needed a couple dollars extra - but if she had a twenty, bought cigarettes and maybe a drink - the fourteen is probably what was left.

 

[IBsleuthin]

I'm guessing a pickup with some sort of front end protection, as well as no muffler -- that is, if McClenic's observation is worth a grain of salt. However I discount McClenic since he has personal family reasons for interjecting his "tip" into the investigation. IMO.

I tell you, my head swims when I try to make all the connections. We need one of those huge cork board walls with a lot of red yarn and some thumb tacks. Good grief. It's so tangled.

 

[ZOOL]

In addition, let's not assume she needed all of that extra gas. She might have only needed a couple dollars extra - but if she had a twenty, bought cigarettes and maybe a drink - the fourteen is probably what was left.

I imagine Jessica just got paid from Goody's, was planning to drive around, visit some friends, and see what was going on for Saturday night. I'm guessing her 20-minute conversation with her mother took place between 6:32pm and 6:48pm, and just shortly before she phoned Auntie Sha-Sha. I'm guessing also that Jessica really wasn't overly concerned about returning home to clean her room. But I'm starting to speculate now...and I don't like to do that....

I'm guessing I'm getting frustrated. :smile:

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

Good point about her payday, Zool. Could have been that she used to have to scrounge change for gas and only got a few dollars worth. Maybe new job meant she had more money and was now able to buy more gas.

 

[redfish]

I imagine Jessica just got paid from Goody's, was planning to drive around, visit some friends, and see what was going on for Saturday night. I'm guessing her 20-minute conversation with her mother took place between 6:32pm and 6:48pm, and just shortly before she phoned Auntie Sha-Sha. I'm guessing also that Jessica really wasn't overly concerned about returning home to clean her room. But I'm starting to speculate now...and I don't like to do that....

I'm guessing I'm getting frustrated. :smile:

I always thought she was thinking ahead in preparation for work...I used to hate to have to stop for gas on my way to work To me that has always been sort of a non issue... jmo

 

[SeriouslySearching]

How on Earth could she have seemed so "normal" at the gas station right before? This article http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/story-of-reverend-charles-moore describes the self-immolation of an elderly preacher who stood staring into space all day trying to get his courage up. If you call it "courage." I call it "mental illness." After his death, other preachers have expressed that they believe he was struggling with mental illness as well--no other preachers have expressed a wish that there be more "martyrs" like Moore. I'm not saying that to discount what Moore did, but I'm the same denomination as he was and I wouldn't kill myself in any circumstance.

But anyway....back to the subject...if she were suicidal, how on Earth could she have appeared so normal at the gas station?

Some people appear to be calm and at peace prior to suicide because they made the decision and are no longer "battling" from within, imo. The woman I knew who chose death by fire had "turned her life around" during the months before and she gave no hint to coworkers, family, or others of her plans to commit suicide.

 

[OneLove]

Just catching up on news and see that Tom Dees of Fox13 in Memphis has started a FB page with interesting info.

Did someone say mineral spirits are used in cabinetry building?

 

[Foxfire]

from Foxfire "There seems to be the one common denominator; methamphetamine use/abuse. From Pastors to Politicians, seems that no one is exemt. Meth appears to be the primary catalyst for psychopaths to act out their fantasies, while creating psychopathic tendencies in otherwise normal personalities..imo"

Interest in sensational cases that involved violent behavior recently focused my attention for some research on meth and violent behavior. I too thought that those with socio/psychopathological tendencies will have antisocial behaviors enhanced by the meth use. Found some significance in the study to support meth use and violent behavior despite some literature reviewed not finding this. Interesting that some of the more outlandish crimes involve meth use. Certainly meth may not be involved in this case, however. Supposedly meth labs have reduced in my area in SC- but still hear about local meth arrests and labs. Large national study ADAM, shows large growth in meth use in Sacramento and Denver currently.

<BBM>
rtjedarling, I am confident that there will be a meth conection, either directly or indirectly, in JC's tragic murder. jmo
When the Feds stopped funding the Meth Lab Clean ups, the state and local LE lost the incentive to investigate them. Meth Lab clean ups are very expensive. Most meth now comes from the MX cartel super labs, is 90% pure, and originates in CA and MX, then distributed by gangs..

FYI: DEA National Clandestine Meth Lab Register - MS - 12/4/2013
http://www.dea.gov/clan-lab/ms.pdf
___________________
The APRIL, 1998 appeal in the 1993 meth related case of Especially Aggravated Kidnapping & Murder, that TBI Director Mark Gwyn compared the abduction and horrific murder of Holly Bobo case too, in his presentation to the TN Legislature for stricter meth laws;

http://www.tncourts.gov/sites/default/files/OPINIONS/tcca/PDF/984/tatrowjc.pdf
IN THE COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS OF TENNESSEE AT KNOXVILLE
APRIL, 1998 SESSION
STATE OF TENNESSEE, ) No. 03C01-9707-CR-00299

Appellee ) Cumberland County
vs. )
Honorable John Turnbull, Judge
JAMES CHRISTOPHER TATROW, )
(Felony Murder, Especially Aggravated
Appellant ) Kidnapping)

OPINION
A jury in Cumberland County Criminal Court convicted the defendant,
James Christopher Tatrow, of two counts of felony murder and two counts of
especially aggravated kidnapping in the deaths of Roger Zammit and John Harry.
The defendant was also convicted of two counts of premeditated and deliberate murder of the same victims.

A. Facts presented during the guilt phase
At trial, both defense and prosecution witnesses testified to the bizarre
events that led up to the two brutal murders. The record indicates that Chris Tatrow had been an outstanding rodeo cowboy, a college student, and a hardworking man who provided for his family.3 As result of a painful back injury, however, he began taking methamphetamine. At first, he used drugs infrequently, but by late 1994, he
was a heavy user of methamphetamine, cocaine, and other drugs.

He and his wife separated. After he was fired from his job, he turned to providing drugs to others
in order to support his habit. His trailer became &#8220;a party place&#8221; with people coming
and going at all hours and various people &#8220;crashing&#8221; at the trailer at different times.
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[katydid23]

Just catching up on news and see that Tom Dees of Fox13 in Memphis has started a FB page with interesting info.

Did someone say mineral spirits are used in cabinetry building?

My stepdad used it in woodworking to mix with various cleaners for his tools and paint brushes etc.

 

[SStarr33]

Just catching up on news and see that Tom Dees of Fox13 in Memphis has started a FB page with interesting info.

Did someone say mineral spirits are used in cabinetry building?

Separate from his one for the news?

 

[anonone]

Mineral spirits are cheap, highly flammable, odorless, and are sold in easily carryable/transportable gallon-plus containers. Mineral spirits are used for a variety of purposes including making cabinetry and asphault to stripping paint.

 

[debirlfan]

Jessica Chambers' family members have said she was doused with an accelerant. Lisa Chambers said Wednesday her daughter was able to give law enforcement "a few names" before her death.

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/story/news/crime/2014/12/10/jessica-chambers-last-hours/20226035/



She later died at a Memphis hospital. She was able to give law enforcement officials "a few names" before she died, her mother said

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/10/woman-set-on-fire/20195725/

That -could- mean that it was a stranger, and she was speculating as to who was behind it. Or, there could have been multiple perps.

 

[redfish]

Just catching up on news and see that Tom Dees of Fox13 in Memphis has started a FB page with interesting info.

Did someone say mineral spirits are used in cabinetry building?

"Prepare the wood by sanding it with coarse sandpaper (lower numbers indicate a coarser grit). Then sand with a medium- or finer-grit sandpaper (higher numbers indicate a finer grit).

Sand until the wood is smooth and even to the touch. Sand with, not against, the grain of the wood. Between sandings, use a tack cloth to remove dust.
Clean the wood with mineral spirits, applied with a rag or a sponge. This helps bring out color variation in the wood. "

 

[ZOOL]

Good point about her payday, Zool. Could have been that she used to have to scrounge change for gas and only got a few dollars worth. Maybe new job meant she had more money and was now able to buy more gas.

During my 'Street View' drives of the counties of Panola and Pope, I came to realize that Jessica's communty is a pretty area with probably lots to do on a Saturday night. For example, over at 112 Front Street, Pope, Mississippi, there is a friendly pizza parlor. It looks like a good hangout for a hungry 19-year-old to meet with a bunch of friends. It is within a short driving distance if she is merely motoring, and not too concerned about washing her car. To get there I believe that all she needed to do was: drive south on US 51 to Dogwood St., take a right, follow Dogwood to Main, bear right and follow Main across the railroad tracks to The Place, less than 10 minutes. Of course, returning then to Herron Road necessitates having a good reason.

 

[darkstar105]

Oh he must be related to famous Deejay Rick Dees, who was from Memphis!

 

[ZOOL]

I always thought she was thinking ahead in preparation for work...I used to hate to have to stop for gas on my way to work To me that has always been sort of a non issue... jmo

That's a good opinion. Jessica bought enough gas to make a roundtrip between work and home on the coming Monday. That fact ought to dispel beliefs that she was suicidal, and about to immolate herself in a gruesome, unfathomable horror.

 

[debirlfan]

The thing I question about AA's comments concerns him paraphrasing the sheriff about "they" versus that she was dead at 11. I don't know why the sheriff would have said "They poured gasoline into her mouth" ... why "they" versus "someone." If it's a Freudian slip by AA, it's an interesting one, IMO. (Worse yet, if it's a Freudian slip by the sheriff, obviously.) Why the "they"? Here's the quote (from http://www.newsms.fm/anonymous-othe...dia-gas-station-owner-responds-accusations/):

“By the time it came to eleven, the police, the sheriff, and everybody come to the store. They said, ‘we got to watch the camera.’ I said, ‘what happened?’ He said, ‘Jessica just died.’ I’m like, ‘Oh my god what happened?’ He said they poured gasoline into her mouth, that’s how I know, cause the sheriff told me.”

Just my opinion, but I think too much is being read into "they" vs. "someone" - while it might not be correct grammar, I think that "they" has become pretty accepted as a way of referring to a singular individual of unspecified sex in addition to a group. (For that matter, my understanding is that some transgender/gender fluid individuals actually prefer "they" as a pronoun - although that wouldn't be relevant here.)

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

I can agree here. In fact, I've done it myself. Used "they", I mean.

 

[machiado]

Where did the idea come from that mineral spirits were involved?