MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #5

[Mistree]

thank you. I didn't realize we had similar name tags. lol

 

[MizStery]

can someone quote the part about the grand jury for me? im not finding it

THANX

SouthernYankee posted this link last night

CORRECTION interview DA Champion NOT with Sheriff Darby

WMC Action News 5's Michael Clark sat down with District Attorney John Champion to discuss the latest in the Jessica Chambers murder investigation.


At the link is the interview. I am sorry I do not remember where in the interview DA Champion NOT Sheriff Darby speaks of supenias & convening a Grand Jury. (If I have interpreted Champions intent on convening GJ wrong then I will stand corrected).Sorry you may have to listen to the entire video. MOO

LINK

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/clip/1...-john-champion​

 

[Fred134]

Greetings to a group of very, very intelligent People. I am a better 'reader' than communicator so I have not attempted to say anything until now.

I'm as frustrated with this case as any of you here, it's none of my Beeswax really, but I get frustrated even more with Any theory being tossed out as impossible at this point.

Isn't it 'possible' in theory, that Jessica Could have placed a 911 call when it Was only her vehicle on fire, not yet herself, and been caught Placing that call?

By the burn damage to her vehicle, compared to herself, the car surely was burning much longer than she had been? Isn't this possible?

The perps could certainly have caught her, taken her phone and thrown it, and then doused her and lit her? At this point, I still think anything is possible.

Just mo very ho. Pleasure spending so much time here with a great group of people. Thanks for your time!

Fred

 

[absentia]

Dexter, I agree with you completely. I see RICO encompassing some very heavy-hitters involving guns-money-drugs-sex-children-football-cheerleading-etcetera, and stretching its tentacles across a very wide territory. I believe that is why the US Marshalls are in the background, and perhaps why local DA, sheriff, and investigation may be a tangent. Unfortunately I believe the TOS restricts me from elaborating further, however Pooh is a decent springboard. He is mentioned in the Ali Alsanai second interview (ie. the long one).

also known as Boon/Boone. of the Mister variety.

 

[absentia]

SouthernYankee posted this link last night

CORRECTION interview DA Champion NOT with Sheriff Darby

WMC Action News 5's Michael Clark sat down with District Attorney John Champion to discuss the latest in the Jessica Chambers murder investigation.


At the link is the interview. I am sorry I do not remember where in the interview DA Champion NOT Sheriff Darby speaks of supenias & convening a Grand Jury. (If I have interpreted Champions intent on convening GJ wrong then I will stand corrected).Sorry you may have to listen to the entire video. MOO

LINK

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/clip/1...-john-champion​

the fact that they are willing to call a GJ is really good. at least they care enough to take these measures to investigate and interrogate people who are sworn under oath - which means nothing, but at least it shows they are trying.

 

[ZOOL]

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...At the link is the interview. I am sorry I do not remember where in the interview DA Champion NOT Sheriff Darby speaks of supenias & convening a Grand Jury. (If I have interpreted Champions intent on convening GJ wrong then I will stand corrected).Sorry you may have to listen to the entire video. MOO

LINK

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/clip/1...-john-champion

Champion does not speak about convening as an imminent occurrence; he discusses the Grand Jury and subpoenas as future generic circumstances and procedures -- that is to say: Whenever a Grand Jury is involved in an investigation, the proper laws of Mississippi dictate that the public is not entitled to prior information.

He elaborates (and I am summarizing here): At the moment in the case of Jessica, , 100+ people have provided sworn depositions. According to him, he and his investigating team are in the process of closely looking for similarities and/or discord in those depositions.

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<ZOOLcomment now...>

IMO, Judging from the overall interview, and from Champion's folksy approach to reporter Clark's questions, Champion really does not appear to be too far into the 100+ details. Moreover, he will not reveal any information until after he has received a Grand Jury indictment to charge the Unknown Perp.

I gather that Champion sees himself in a similar fashion to the somewhat aloof, Adam Schiff, the ficitional, NY DA of Law & Order.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

Looking forward to that "DNA stuff" coming back from the lab.

Kinda sick of all the "what if" scenarios.

Need some good 'ole fashion evidence.

 

[ZOOL]

also known as Boon/Boone. of the Mister variety.

Boon yes, Mister no. (Mister is too far down on the corkboard to jiggle more than a chuckle from a RICO investigation.)

 

[vlpate]

In what way was the crime scene mismanaged?

 

[MSCJgrad]

Dexter, I agree with you completely. I see RICO encompassing some very heavy-hitters involving guns-money-drugs-sex-children-football-cheerleading-etcetera, and stretching its tentacles across a very wide territory. I believe that is why the US Marshalls are in the background, and perhaps why local DA, sheriff, and investigation may be a tangent. Unfortunately I believe the TOS restricts me from elaborating further, however Pooh is a decent springboard. He is mentioned in the Ali Alsanai second interview (ie. the long one).

Pooh?

 

[CHERIE.T]

Looking forward to that "DNA stuff" coming back from the lab.

Kinda sick of all the "what if" scenarios.

Need some good 'ole fashion evidence.

ibm
I concur.

 

[MizStery]

Point is...it does happen!

Thank you for the welcome! I do think more than one person was involved, and I think they're both male and female. <snipped>

Regarding the Mister & Tutor interview, I don't think they had anything to do with the crime. <snipped>riends" with him and the fact she knew him and given his history it just makes me wonder who else she knew.

Greetings to a group of very, very intelligent People. I am a better 'reader' than communicator so I have not attempted to say anything until now.
<snipped>
Just mo very ho. Pleasure spending so much time here with a great group of people. Thanks for your time!
Fred

:welcome2:

:newbie: :welcome6:arty:

 

[ZOOL]

Pooh?

You will find mention of Pooh in HERE.

At this time, I will not reveal his true identity. It is against WS TOS.

(Curiosity wants to know what the CJ stands for?)

 

[MizStery]

Champion does not speak about convening as an imminent occurrence; he discusses the Grand Jury and subpoenas as future generic circumstances and procedures -- that is to say: Whenever a Grand Jury is involved in an investigation, the proper laws of Mississippi dictate that the public is not entitled to prior information.

He elaborates (and I am summarizing here): At the moment in the case of Jessica, , 100+ people have provided sworn depositions. According to him, he and his investigating team are in the process of closely looking for similarities and/or discord in those depositions.

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<ZOOLcomment now...>

IMO, Judging from the overall interview, and from Champion's folksy approach to reporter Clark's questions, Champion really does not appear to be too far into the 100+ details. Moreover, he will not reveal any information until after he has received a Grand Jury indictment to charge the Unknown Perp.

I gather that Champion sees himself in a similar fashion to the somewhat aloof, Adam Schiff, the ficitional, NY DA of Law & Order.

Zool thanks for your take on DA Champions interview. I was very tired last night when I listened. I appreciate that you took the time to report & give your opinion. :smile:

 

[ZOOL]

In what way was the crime scene mismanaged?

Criticism has been leveled about:

• the quickness in removing the principle piece of evidence (car) from Herron Road
• there is a belief that investigators spent little time at the scene
• there is a belief that the scene was not secured by LE until Dec 9

 

[PeterThomasFan]

In what way was the crime scene mismanaged?

Let me count the ways...

1. It only took an hour or so to process the crime scene? Vehicle was towed away immediately after it "cooled down". Really?
2. Possible evidence was not collected/photographed from the crime scene and most likely was destroyed (empty bottles, foot prints, tire tracks, cigarette butts, burn patterns, windshield wiper, etc.).
3. Mr. Tow Truck Driver stopped for smokes with with a key piece of evidence and let AA take pictures. Wow!
4. Video surveillance from the gas station was collected 4 days after the fact. Local media had access before LE.

IMO & IIRC, that within the first 48 hours there was a bunch of "floundering" going on with the local LE. There were no reports that an area-wide search was performed for a possible suspect.

 

[MSCJgrad]

Edit: I did it again, and posted my response incorrectly. UGHHHHHHH! I was responding to vlpate'so question as to how the crime scene was mismanaged...

Foremost, the vehicle was removed from the site remarkably fast. Jessica's car should have remained at the initial site for the duration of the scene being processed. In moving the car, evidence could have been removed, covered up, or tampered with, either by accident or intentionally (think about footprints being ruined by tire tracks, hairs or other smokes left behind by the suspect being moved, etc). That was their first mistake, be it accidental or intentional). Second, when transporting her vehicle from the scene, LE is to directly supervise the entire process. The vehicle should be, under the direct supervision of LE, transported directly from point A to point B, being the location in which LE is to hold it as evidence until investigators arrive to further process it. At no point can evidence be left unattended! The fact that her car was photographed as being left unattended after the crime had occurred, allows for the car, which is evidence, if not a crime scene in itself, to be tainted, thus unacceptable as evidence in court. Add to this the fact that the photo of the vehicle was taken at the controversial M&M convenience store, any defense attorney will likely have no problems getting any and all evidence derived from Jessica's car thrown out or deemed inadmissible on court. After I get my son to bed, I will look for MSM links to concur with all of the other mismanagements that I have noticed in the processing of the crime scene, and there are MANY!

 

[carbuff]

A friend in LE tells me it's standard practice to tow a car to an enclosed private area for processing.

 

[CHERIE.T]

A friend in LE tells me it's standard practice to tow a car to an enclosed private area for processing.

I only worry that some evidence could have been left behind....mainly because it was already after sunset when the car was removed. imoo

 

[MSCJgrad]

Thanks for the link!

You will find mention of Pooh in HERE.


Thanks for the link! I'm not trying to break any rules... Still brand new at this. As for the CJ... I couldn't come up with a decent 'name' to use on here, so I used MSCJGrad, being Masters of Science in Criminal Justice Administration, which is what I got my masters degree in, and what field I currently work in. I was stumped for a 'name' and anxious to post my 2 cents at the time, not trying to be 'showey' in any kind of way.

At this time, I will not reveal his true identity. It is against WS TOS.

(Curiosity wants to know what the CJ stands for?)