MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #6

[anonone]

I still believe her death is out of jealousy and revenge and is tied to her relationships.

Revenge, jealousy, and a primrose path.

I agree with you. I think it is wishful thinking to attribute this crime to a "gang" rather than confront the fact that a sociopath might reside next door.

I think the obsession with gangs, race, drugs, FBI/ATF (who are playing a very minimal role in this case) is detracting from a very personal situation involving jealousy, revenge, and redemption involving multiple individuals, males and females.

So there is a murder with multiple individuals involved with their own individual motives. What is the reason for death by burning? What is something that a person will take to the grave with them on their physical body when they pass away? If that can be burned away, the evidence is scant and circumstantial, leading to eyewitnesses all accounting for each other.

Anyone like the Mula Gang joggers on sale for three weeks to the exact hour of Jessica's murder?

Lastly, personally, I think Tom needs to go sing Disco Duck with his distant cousin Rick.[

 

[CHERIE.T]

She may have been forced to ingest drugs but I don't believe she did so willingly because I doubt she had any money to pay for them. The one thing that really bothers me--and I'm not sure if it is fact or rumor--that the seats were reclined in her car and the parking brake was engaged. Reclining the seats would make it easier to move an unconscious person from one seat to the other. Putting the brake on would ensure it didn't roll back down that incline and onto Herron Rd.

The evidence seems to suggest she was driven there, intentionally set on fire and left to die. If the perp wanted to "escape" on foot, all he/she had to do was climb the gate.

JMO

A SIMPLE THANK YOU ISN'T ENOUGH. :gthanks:

 

[jamiefind]

There should be a picture of a herd of cattle to express the 'moo' below.

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[MyBelle]

Revenge, jealousy, and a primrose path.



I think the obsession with gangs, race, drugs, FBI/ATF (who are playing a very minimal role in this case) is detracting from a very personal situation involving jealousy, revenge, and redemption involving multiple individuals, males and females.

So there is a murder with multiple individuals involved with their own individual motives. What is the reason for death by burning? What is something that a person will take to the grave with them on their physical body when they pass away? If that can be burned away, the evidence is scant and circumstantial, leading to eyewitnesses all accounting for each other.

Anyone like the Mula Gang joggers on sale for three weeks to the exact hour of Jessica's murder?

Lastly, personally, I think Tom needs to go sing Disco Duck with his distant cousin Rick.

Translate, pls. I have no idea what 'Mula Gang joggers' even are but my guess is that it has nothing to do with fitness....

 

[anonone]

Translate, pls. I have no idea what 'Mula Gang joggers' even are but my guess is that it has nothing to do with fitness....

Just for FindHG's information: Jessica was wearing Mula Gang joggers the night she visited the convenience store.

Regarding Tom Dees, I think he is a joke.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

I had really hoped that after days of not being able to check in, or even google jc, due to family coming and running around like a crazy person trying finish preparing and then having my DD's wedding, that i would log in to find, at the least, new information from LE or something. Was really wishing a full on arrest.

I guess we've lost the media for now.

I've forgotten, how long 'til expected autopsy/lab results? Maybe that will bring media back.

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[anonone]

IMO, a 19 year old female does not go to a "party" wearing joggers. Sleeping all day and wearing joggers is an indication that someone is very tired (from being out the night before--which isn't the case here) or someone who is mildly depressed/bored or comfortable with their current lifestyle.

 

[MyBelle]

IMO, a 19 year old female does not go to a "party" wearing joggers. Sleeping all day and wearing joggers is an indication that someone is very tired (from being out the night before--which isn't the case here) or someone who is mildly depressed/bored or comfortable with their current lifestyle.

I think both of her parents pointed this out weeks ago.

 

[roadrunnermt]

this is he guy and the house. his alias is the same last name as the last name of the gang member shot to death a year ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0JCBggLu-g
but I can't remember when LE confirmed the party there. It was just a week or two ago. they finally confirmed she had been to a party there.

Does anyone have the party location address or link to a previous map? I'm curious as to the distance from party (since I saw party was confirmed) to car spot and keep recalling the burning vehicle reportedly seen from a mile away. I had a dejayvu moment. Perhaps it was someone (s) from party who actually made initial report, which I could see that putting that witness in extreme danger if publically exposed given potential party/murder connection. I think I read they called the sheriff's office, not fire department. That is a preferred contact than 911 for non emergencies and from a mile away they would have had no idea a person was burning alive. I do think closeness of two speaks high volume as perp tend to stick to frequented and known areas. If perp left party with jessica, the ditch locale sounds close enough peeps could have walked back to party or ran and dropping phone out of pocket as I suspect. Also goes with sheriff's picking up items as far as 50 feet down the road from crime scene.

 

[Marfa Lights]

I thought for sure, at first, that the whole party thing was crazy talk due to the way JC was dressed, but I will be darned if my niece didn't stop at my house last night on her way to a party with her college friends wearing those pajama/sweat pant things! I had never seen them before!

Yes, a lot of young people don't feel the need to dress up just to "party" with close friends and acquaintances. I grew up in a rural area and a so-called party could involve 3-4 friends pulled over on a country road at sunset to share a drink and a smoke for an hour or so. Even a larger gathering was typically "come as you are" for most people.

This topic gave me a flashback at how appalled my parents were at the ripped and patched bluejeans my hippie friends and I would wear everywhere-- school, parties, anywhere we could get away with it. I remember the very look on my Mom's face... Ha! So what parents might expect their kids to wear to a party and what the kid actually will wear when going out can be quite different.

But on a more serious note, I think this party may hold the key to what happened to Jessica later that evening. I too am disappointed that MSM journalists have not been able to interview more people who attended this party.

 

[FindHG]

Does anyone have the party location address or link to a previous map? I'm curious as to the distance from party (since I saw party was confirmed) to car spot and keep recalling the burning vehicle reportedly seen from a mile away. I had a dejayvu moment. Perhaps it was someone (s) from party who actually made initial report, which I could see that putting that witness in extreme danger if publically exposed given potential party/murder connection. I think I read they called the sheriff's office, not fire department. That is a preferred contact than 911 for non emergencies and from a mile away they would have had no idea a person was burning alive. I do think closeness of two speaks high volume as perp tend to stick to frequented and known areas. If perp left party with jessica, the ditch locale sounds close enough peeps could have walked back to party or ran and dropping phone out of pocket as I suspect. Also goes with sheriff's picking up items as far as 50 feet down the road from crime scene.

What you say make a lot of sense. I'm looking up the link, however if IRCC, LE stated they were able to track down the 911 caller and clear them. This caller has been widely reported as a "passing motorist.'' The fire chief was expecting just a car fire upon arriving at the scene, so a burning or burned victim may have never been seen or reported by the caller. The call itself not being made public or the person who made the call not coming out publicly has led to speculation about the what the caller may have seen or of being involved, but wouldn't LE stating they tracked the caller down and cleared them put that to rest?

 

[Marfa Lights]

IMO, a 19 year old female does not go to a "party" wearing joggers. Sleeping all day and wearing joggers is an indication that someone is very tired (from being out the night before--which isn't the case here) or someone who is mildly depressed/bored or comfortable with their current lifestyle.

While we are still on the subject of her clothing, I think dressing "down" like this is also one way for a female to signal she is not trying to attract any unwanted attention from any males.

 

[roadrunnermt]

What you say make a lot of sense. I'm looking up the link, however if IRCC, LE stated they were able to track down the 911 caller and clear them. This caller has been widely reported as a "passing motorist.'' The fire chief was expecting just a car fire upon arriving at the scene, so a burning or burned victim may have never been seen or reported by the caller. The call itself not being made public or the person who made the call not coming out publicly has led to speculation about the what the caller may have seen or of being involved, but wouldn't LE stating they tracked the caller down and cleared them put that to rest?

Yes maybe my thoughts were confusing! I'm not suspecting the fire reporter/caller as participating in the crime but yet merely a coincidence that perhaps someone at the location of the party might have been initial reporter and thus why that info has been secured up so tightly for their protection as likely if this is the case they probably had no idea of the magnitude of what that car fire meant and ultimately the caller seeing and getting professionals on scene ASAP might just be what puts this murder (s) where they belong since help arrived quickly enough to get name(s) out of JC. I'm recalling from early reports thinking it was about a mile away from party to crime scene. Sorry on my phone and not good at searching links from phone.

But you did mention the passing motorist so that's also a thought I forgot; however, we all wondered why the caller didn't see JC or wait for help or stay on scene, etc. All those suspicions make sense caller was attending party perhaps. I don't believe everything LE puts out either. So much drama, rumors, damage control, tight tips, and concealment that you never know truth! Just like early reports said 911 call and now LE changed that story. Initially fire chief told media names JC said. Then damage control, tight lips, and stories change. Crazy crazy case. Sure hoping 7:30 live update is to tell us they arrested the perps!!!

 

[Concerned Mama]

I sure hope you are right. Part of me thinks that when DNA and other forensic evidence comes back, there may be one or more arrests. After all, I'm thinking most everyone in that town must have DNA on file for one felony or another. But then I also feel like some testing should have been completed by now, and we have seen nothing to indicate LE is any closer to an arrest than they were on day one. JMO

bbm

:laughitup: Sure does seem that way!

(probably not really a laughing matter, but I can't help but be surprised how easy it is to find info on almost every name that comes up in this case!)

 

[SteveP]

Revenge, jealousy, and a primrose path.



I think the obsession with gangs, race, drugs, FBI/ATF (who are playing a very minimal role in this case) is detracting from a very personal situation involving jealousy, revenge, and redemption involving multiple individuals, males and females.

So there is a murder with multiple individuals involved with their own individual motives. What is the reason for death by burning? What is something that a person will take to the grave with them on their physical body when they pass away? If that can be burned away, the evidence is scant and circumstantial, leading to eyewitnesses all accounting for each other.

Anyone like the Mula Gang joggers on sale for three weeks to the exact hour of Jessica's murder?

Lastly, personally, I think Tom needs to go sing Disco Duck with his distant cousin Rick.[

Instead of repeatedly asking us, why don't you just tell us? All of your posts are riddles to most of us, and if you are trying to tell us something, I, for one, ain't gettin' it.

 

[believe09]

I saw something curious yesterday on a social media website, and I've been trying to confirm it.

A commenter asked a question about Ali Alsanai's statements regarding Jessica Chambers activity at the M&M on December 6, 2014.

I'm paraphrasing here now because that comment is no longer visible at the social media website. The commenter asked: "Does anyone see it odd that CCTV video does not show Jessica reentering M&M a second time in order to buy cigarettes as Ali Alsanai has stated?"

The commenter then supplied a link to a MSM video.

The question got me wondering because I have viewed many videos numerous times but never recalled seeing Chambers re-enter M&M.

Currently I have tried to find a MSM article written sometime between the period December 7 and December 10; the commenter above had referenced an exact quote. Thus far I have found only The Times-Picayune making that claim.



According to the publication date and times ( December 10, 2014 at 7:14 PM, updated December 11, 2014 at 6:48 AM ) NOLA's article is a reprint of an AP story. Yet when I run a Google search, using the keywords: Ali, cigarettes, and "Jessica Chambers", for a specified timeframe (12/07/2014 to 12/10/2014 ) there are no other results.

Does anyone know of any MSM article during this timeframe that confirms that Jessica re-entered M&M after exiting from the counter?

I have much catching up to do, but it may be tape that is unreleased...in other words it was suppressed by investigators.

 

[believe09]

Police are searching her data and text records after obtaining warrants Wednesday that compelled Google and her cell phone provider to give police access to her phone’s content, said John Champion, district attorney for Mississippi’s 17th Circuit.

The prosecutor on Thursday also updated information he had given CNN the previous day that indicated Chambers had attended a party but police couldn’t find anyone who had seen her there. Police have now spoken to witnesses who say they saw Chambers at the party, the prosecutor said.
http://fox6now.com/2014/12/12/jessica-chambers-phone-provides-leads-prosecutor-says/

BBM

Not trying to split hairs, but that isnt the same as saying she attended a party right? If they have some photos or video of her at the party that would be something definitive I would think. And maybe they have those things. Can you think of a party with kids that age that doesnt appear on Social Media?

 

[suspicious1]

Reminds me of the Skylar Neese case. They had one of the participants talking, but didn't charge right away because they needed evidence on the other girl involved. Took a while, but I think they eventually found spot of blood in a car. Sometimes, the knowledge is there, but the evidence isn't. Would be nice to think that LE KNOWS who killed her, but just can't prove it yet.

ITA. I believe LE knows who did this to her but they are still gathering evidence. I also believe that whatever JC told the first responders will play a huge part in this and rightfully so. JMO

 

[CHERIE.T]

Not trying to split hairs, but that isnt the same as saying she attended a party right? If they have some photos or video of her at the party that would be something definitive I would think. And maybe they have those things. Can you think of a party with kids that age that doesnt appear on Social Media?

Lol , help me out here.
Your quote states

Police have now spoken to witnesses who say they saw Chambers at the party, the prosecutor said.

Then you post====

but that isnt the same as saying she attended a party right?

Hu? Can you explain cause I am lost?

 

[liljim]

he means it in the sense that i could claim that i saw you in my house last night, but that doesnt mean you WERE in my house last night, pictures might prove it, or video, but my claim is not proof.