MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #6

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cant get it to load between the snow and teen daughter sucking the wi fi. Sorry will check back in later. bookmarking so I can try to watch later but the text below the youtube link does seem inline with what she has been quoted as saying.

CW never says she was at the party in the clip, the reporter implies it, but I need a quote or video of her stating she was there. Too many rumors have turned into facts in this case! (not here) and I just want to be sure people aren't assuming due to sloppy reporting. KWIM? :)
 
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There are at least 3 truckstops in Batesville. As a group truckers are basically a good group. But truckstops have often been the haunts of killers, including amongst the drivers. It's 3.9 miles from Batesville Sonic to Love's Truck stop Batesville next exit up I55 to HWY 35.
MOO
 
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I guess I need to look at the video again, cause what I saw was Dollar store fleece camo sweat pants. jmo
 
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still thinking it's this guy? bc of jealous wife? she has placed herself in a questionable way. he has a lot of tatt's, too (pun intended).
I couldn't get on board, but I'm open to more info...

You would have to be one crazy woman to ever close your eyes again while living in a house with a husband that would kill his lover to appease your jealousy. I'm not buying this one. Too many other theories out there that make far more sense than this one. JMO.
 
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cant get it to load between the snow and teen daughter sucking the wi fi. Sorry will check back in later. bookmarking so I can try to watch later but the text below the youtube link does seem inline with what she has been quoted as saying.

She stated on camera that she (aunt Sha Sha also known as CW) was there and that she saw Jessica there. The DA told CNN that witnesses (plural) report seeing Jessica at the party. There are several links to this in teh first five or so pages of this thread. Trying to pull one for you but snow is interfering with my satellite/wi fi

ETA link http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...-tries-to-comfort-burning-victim-before-death

:sorry:

ticya,
I am sorry your satellite /WiFi is sketchy.

Could this be the link?
There was a party going on and she was there," said Chambers' acquaintance Charlotte Wilkerson. "When she left the party, that's when it happened to her."
District Attorney John Champion says investigators are looking into what, if anything, the party had to do with Chambers' death. The teenager was discovered next to her car on a http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...-tries-to-comfort-burning-victim-before-death
 
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I guess I need to look at the video again, cause what I saw was Dollar store fleece camo sweat pants. jmo

Mom had described them as pajamas pants, so was it confirmed anywhere that they were specifically the Mula Gang pants sold at Goody's, or was this a 1 + 1 = 3? One of my teen daughters wears the hip-hop style pants with the ridiculously low crotch, but more fitted around the calves. Personally, I wouldn't leave my house wearing such ridiculous things, but I do know that my daughter, who would never in a million years wear pajama pants out, would definitely wear the hip-hop pants. And as her mom, I know the difference between pajama pants and hip-hop pants. I'd think Jessica's mom would know the difference between the two, but who knows.
 
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Could she have spilled gas on her pants while putting gas in her car, drove off, lit a cig. and caught herself on fire? I saw that happen one time in Florida. The man got gas, spilled some, got into his car, lit a cig and caught fire. Some people helped him put the fire out.
 
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Could someone tell me what the stuff is on the right side of the windshield (outside) on the car? There are several clumps of what appear to be wires or something. Did they blow out of the car or what are they?

http://i.imgur.com/ONoC431.png

I believe it was determined a few threads ago that this was dried grass/hay/pine needles -- something easily ignited -- thrown on the car to see if it had cooled enough to be moved.
 
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CW never says she was at the party in the clip, the reporter implies it, but I need a quote or video of her stating she was there. Too many rumors have turned into facts in this case! (not here) and I just want to be sure people aren't assuming due to sloppy reporting. KWIM? :)

Jmo but body language or affect is off...something's not right in that video. This "party" that witness claim happened, perp(s) may have told this to her as a cover I suppose. What if as some other posters have speculated, that the "party" really just "evolved" when Jessica was at the gas station or whoever she spoke to by phone before she went to gas station. She was talking to people/waved to someone at gas station...what if it was as simple as person(s) said something to effect hypothetically...hey JC, we are just going to have a little thing, smoke a little marijuana, we can can just chill and catch up...or could you give a ride to this "party"?

How close/familiar were these people that JC talked to at the gas station? Any of the gentlemen at the gas station make a pass at JC or talk to others about liking/being attracted to JC in the past? Any gentlemen there that had a gf and used to date/pursue JC? Did JC ever go to LE about abusive ex-bfs, did any ex-bfs end up doing prison time b/c of abuse? If so, would anyone have a grudge against JC because of it? Personally, I don't think there was a "party" at all in the formal sense, unless a "party" a guise to lure JC (jmo but it's both females/males). Maybe Auntie said it went too far, b/c some female wanted to put Jessica in her place (like fight her), but BF/friends raped her or Jessica fought girl back and said girl freaks out and they kill Jessica. Just some thoughts. Maybe there was a party in traditional sense, but I would like to know who was at party and when it started? And who invited JC?

Who did Jessica speak to right before she went to gas station? Did that person notify anyone else that Jessica would be at gas station? So many questions...
 
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Jmo but body language or affect is off...something's not right in that video. This "party" that witness claim happened, perp(s) may have told this to her as a cover I suppose. What if as some other posters have speculated, that the "party" really just "evolved" when Jessica was at the gas station or whoever she spoke to by phone before she went to gas station. She was talking to people/waved to someone at gas station...what if it was as simple as person(s) said something to effect hypothetically...hey JC, we are just going to have a little thing, smoke a little marijuana, we can can just chill and catch up...or could you give a ride to this "party"?

How close/familiar were these people that JC talked to at the gas station? Any of the gentlemen at the gas station make a pass at JC or talk to others about liking/being attracted to JC in the past? Any gentlemen there that had a gf and used to date/pursue JC? Did JC ever go to LE about abusive ex-bfs, did any ex-bfs end up doing prison time b/c of abuse? If so, would anyone have a grudge against JC because of it? Personally, I don't think there was a "party" at all in the formal sense, unless a "party" a guise to lure JC (jmo but it's both females/males). Maybe Auntie said it went too far, b/c some female wanted to put Jessica in her place (like fight her), but BF/friends raped her or Jessica fought girl back and said girl freaks out and they kill Jessica. Just some thoughts. Maybe there was a party in traditional sense, but I would like to know who was at party and when it started? And who invited JC?

Who did Jessica speak to right before she went to gas station? Did that person notify anyone else that Jessica would be at gas station? So many questions...

A ton of questions that won't be answered anytime soon. Miss. law keeps everything sealed until trial.
 
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I guess I need to look at the video again, cause what I saw was Dollar store fleece camo sweat pants. jmo
After finding a picture of these mysterious "Mula Gang" camo pants, then comparing them to what Jessica appeared to be wearing that night, I'm with Elley Mae. Looks like Jessica is wearing fleece camouflage pants with loose, not fitted, cuffs. The Mula Gang pants are very different in appearance: camo from waist to knees, then black from knees to ankles.
JCPajamaPants.jpgMulaGangJoggers.jpg

Was it ever stated definitely anywhere that Jessica was wearing "Mula Gang"? Because these do not look the same to me at all.
 
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No arrests nearly one month after Jessica Chambers’ murder
Caitlin Alexander reports on Jan 5, '15 @ 5:44 pm

Champion also confirmed the FBI and other assisting agencies are still investigating the case.

“They need to check into more people,” Panola County resident Kathryn Barnes said.

Surveillance video shows Chambers visited a gas station hours before her death near Highway 51 and Carlisle.

Barnes said it stands to reason that other stores’ surveillance video should show Chambers passing by.
 
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Girls in small town Oklahoma wear pj pants like they wear jeans. They have no problem wearing them in public or to a gathering (what some would call a party, but is just a group hanging out at someone's house). They go for comfort and don't really care about what people think. Seems JC would have fit right in. To me, it did not indicate a late night the night before. It appeared she was not worried about being all dressed up to run errands or go see people.
 
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The Panolian lists two assault arrests for Jessica. One was in the August 23, 2013, paper; the another was in the June 10, 2014 issue. To date, to the best of my knowledge there was no further record of either case: no finding, no conviction, nothing. This seems a little odd.

I would think though that there must be some disposition of either case in the public record. Records are sealed only if a person involved is a juvenile. In August 23, 2013, Jessica Chambers was 18.

Since Jessica was charged with the assaults, we can assume that her father's statement (ie. "she was a fighter") is a fair assessment of why she was charged: She was fighting physically with someone -- enough so that the police were involved.

Since both charges involved arrests, I believe that it would be a fair assumption to make that the other party was not related to Jessica. Usually in the case of a domestic dispute, the police charge both parties, or merely warn them, or family members resolve their issues without following through with a court proceeding.

I suppose continued, physical, bad blood between two people could lead to murder. Thus, I would assume that LE has pursued her two assault cases. However it seems a great stretch to lump the two together in a long, drawn out, personal grudge, or vendetta, and then follow through with that animosity six months later into murder.

It would be beneficial to know much more about these cases.

Here is a slight update based upon the period August 16, 2013 to August 23, 2013

reference


A week before Jessica was arrested there was a public tax notice of the taking of Ben A. Chambers property along Hwy 51 (see August 16, ppg. 21-22). The following Friday night (August 23, pg 1) there was a fatal shooting of a North Panola High School student, followed later that night by another shooting at a local, Sardis club; both shootings were believed to be gang related. The same night Jessica was arrested for simple assault. The date of the tax taking was scheduled for the end of the month.

I mention these three events only because they may have had an indirect influence upon Jessica's mindset. Leading up to this period of time, I have seen Jessica's name in Panolian only associated with cheerleading activities from 2010 until August 23rd's arrest... Until the 23rd, nothing seemed out-of-the-ordinary. As a matter of fact, in 2009 she won an second-place award for art; and as a 12 yr old, she was involved in sports.

The fact that Ben A. Chambers was about to loose his property may have been a catalyst for high emotions; Jessica may have been without a home.

The fact that her rival high school, North Panolia, was the scene of a fatal high school shooting also must have been foremost in everyone's mind.

Lastly, leading up to the August 23 arrest, Jessica had lost her brother Ben A. Chambers, Jr. on May 11, 2011, and her father and DM had divorced. In addition, her father's criminal background began in 2003 when Jessica was 8 years old.

None of the above explains anything specific about the August 23 arrest though.

I've searched the Panolian "Arrest logs", "Justice Court logs", and "Sheriff's logs" but there does not yet appear to be any disposition for the August 23 arrest.

Maybe someone else who like to have a go at finding something specific while I abandon WS for the night.....:shame:
 
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Girls in small town Oklahoma wear pj pants like they wear jeans. They have no problem wearing them in public or to a gathering (what some would call a party, but is just a group hanging out at someone's house). They go for comfort and don't really care about what people think. Seems JC would have fit right in. To me, it did not indicate a late night the night before. It appeared she was not worried about being all dressed up to run errands or go see people.

So it looks like Mama Chambers was probably correct. Jessica appears to be wearing fleece camouflage pajama pants. <modsnip>
 
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It's not uncommon for arrests to be made after an altercation, then have charges dropped after everybody calms down. At least around here.
 
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Could she have spilled gas on her pants while putting gas in her car, drove off, lit a cig. and caught herself on fire? I saw that happen one time in Florida. The man got gas, spilled some, got into his car, lit a cig and caught fire. Some people helped him put the fire out.

I suppose anything is possible at this point, but why separate a cell phone and battery if accidentally caught on fire? Why was accelerant used throughout interior? Why drive/parked on inclined hill and use an emergency brake? Jmo. ETA- separating a cell phone and battery is important because it may show that someone was trying to make sure Jessica wouldn't be found for a while, if no pings, there's no way to track her. Except someone drove by shortly after she/car was set on fire. But I think that someone maybe thought they had more "time" if LE found JC days/weeks later. IDK, could be wrong though.
 
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