MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #8

[Ms Pragmatic]

I think maybe probably possibly too much is being made of this book that JC wanted to write. I don't say that in response to any particular posters here at WS. I am speaking generally. I know when I was 19 I thought I had life all figured out. My life was totally boring but I remember thinking about writing a book and thinking I had a story to tell. I think if I had met an author such as the lady that JC heard speak, I may have had the same response. Motivational speakers ARE motivational. Yes, it seems clear that JC had gone through some adversity in her short life, but I don't think whatever she could have told would have been so threatening to another person(s) that she would be murdered because of it.

I think you maybe probably possibly are correct

 

[Tricia]

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[flatfootjoe]

WTH?

So the timeline has changed?

It had to, the only thing consistent in this case are the inconsistencies...

 

[wfgodot]

I think maybe probably possibly too much is being made of this book that JC wanted to write. I don't say that in response to any particular posters here at WS. I am speaking generally. I know when I was 19 I thought I had life all figured out. My life was totally boring but I remember thinking about writing a book and thinking I had a story to tell. I think if I had met an author such as the lady that JC heard speak, I may have had the same response. Motivational speakers ARE motivational. Yes, it seems clear that JC had gone through some adversity in her short life, but I don't think whatever she could have told would have been so threatening to another person(s) that she would be murdered because of it.

If we could know for sure that she did feel her lifetime fitting material for an autobiography even before she turned 21, I think it's an important clue regarding her character: ego-driven self-assurance, or merely the need to project same? Bright vanity, or dark vexation; self-confidence, or self-doubt? It seems to me to signify a certain world-weariness, perhaps a kind of bipolarity; but it could also as easily be read as a victory statement -- of perseverance, of beating the odds.

What do you guys think?

 

[MyBelle]

I think maybe probably possibly too much is being made of this book that JC wanted to write. I don't say that in response to any particular posters here at WS. I am speaking generally. I know when I was 19 I thought I had life all figured out. My life was totally boring but I remember thinking about writing a book and thinking I had a story to tell. I think if I had met an author such as the lady that JC heard speak, I may have had the same response. Motivational speakers ARE motivational. Yes, it seems clear that JC had gone through some adversity in her short life, but I don't think whatever she could have told would have been so threatening to another person(s) that she would be murdered because of it.

Very astute on your part, imo.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

If we could know for sure that she did feel her lifetime fitting material for an autobiography even before she turned 21, I think it's an important clue regarding her character: ego-driven self-assurance, or merely the need to project same? Bright vanity, or dark vexation; self-confidence, or self-doubt? It seems to me to signify a certain world-weariness, perhaps a kind of bipolarity; but it could also as easily be read as a victory statement -- of perseverance, of beating the odds.

What do you guys think?

Great question. I wish I knew enough to give you my opinion. It is so easy to feel as if you have triumphed over your demons when you are removed from negative influences and temptation. Easy to stay on the path when you are in a secure, structured environment. I wish I knew if she had stayed on the path in the months following her departure from Leah's.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree and only hope the speculation about her parents ceases. They are victims. The wild theories are coming up empty because this wasn't some ISIS-related, terrorist hit, it wasn't a gang-agreed-upon hit, it had nothing to do with AA being from Yemin and wasn't the act of a serial killer from out-of-state. It was a vicious, premeditated murder by someone right there in that community.

all, JMO

It could easily be a murder suspect from out-of-state when he was in the immediate vicinity of JC and her vehicle. It is not a "wild theory", imo. Cases don't always follow the norm and are difficult to solve because people don't look at other possibilities. We do not know what happened to Jessica Chambers or who set the fire.

 

[distracted]

There is something that bothers me about how Lisa describes Jessica as a always-happy-person, and how she then says that she wanted to write a book about her life. In order to feel like writing a book about your life at the age of 19, you have to have been through a lot of hard moments, right?

Now, we know that she lost her brother and that it probably was a traumatic event in itself. Also, if the story of the abusive ex-boyfriend is true, it's a second traumatic ''event'' to add to her life. But, to me, there must be more to it, some things that we don't know.

I don't want to start making crazy theories without proof but I bet that she had way more problems throughout her life than what her friends and family want to admit.

Maybe this doesn't prove anything at all, but I can't stop wondering what she intended to put in that book...

My impression, after listening to the show, is that Lisa was describing Jessica when she was younger - that she was a very happy kid when she was playing softball and cheering. Then she goes on to describe how that happiness had devolved into anger as she got older; anger that landed her in Leah's House after she had assaulted her mother. And I say "assaulted" loosely because she wasn't specific about whether it was verbally or physically. She obviously thought it wasn't something she could handle on her own and had called the police to intervene.

ETA: So I don't think it's a contradiction to events in Jessica's life that would be important enough to want to write a book about, imho.

 

[MyBelle]

It could easily be a murder suspect from out-of-state when he was in the immediate vicinity of JC and her vehicle. It is not a "wild theory", imo. Cases don't always follow the norm and are difficult to solve because people don't look at other possibilities. We do not know what happened to Jessica Chambers or who set the fire.

I doubt there is anything "easily" about a totally unrelated, out of state suspect in Jessica's murder. This isn't a television show. While we do not know exactly what has happened, absolutely no one publicly has suggested it is a random murder by a serial killer.

 

[MyBelle]

My impression, after listening to the show, is that Lisa was describing Jessica when she was younger - that she was a very happy kid when she was playing softball and cheering. Then she goes on to describe how that happiness had devolved into anger as she got older; anger that landed her in Leah's House after she had assaulted her mother. And I say "assaulted" loosely because she wasn't specific about whether it was verbally or physically. She obviously thought it wasn't something she could handle on her own and had called the police to intervene.

ETA: So I don't think it's a contradiction to events in Jessica's life that would be important enough to want to write a book about, imho.

With all due respect, all evidence points to Jessica deciding what she wanted to write about. I think she would decide what was "important."

 

[distracted]

I think maybe probably possibly too much is being made of this book that JC wanted to write. I don't say that in response to any particular posters here at WS. I am speaking generally. I know when I was 19 I thought I had life all figured out. My life was totally boring but I remember thinking about writing a book and thinking I had a story to tell. I think if I had met an author such as the lady that JC heard speak, I may have had the same response. Motivational speakers ARE motivational. Yes, it seems clear that JC had gone through some adversity in her short life, but I don't think whatever she could have told would have been so threatening to another person(s) that she would be murdered because of it.

I absolutely agree with you. Here comes the "but"...you are the company you keep. And mothers can't possibly know what their 19-year-olds are doing 24/7. I know this because I have a daughter who is 19. I know a great deal but there is also a great deal I don't know. How could I?

Not to mention the fact that her mother stated in an interview earlier this week that Jessica had been in "at least two abusive relationships". That experience alone is worth writing about.

 

[Talullah]

Auntie may be staying elsewhere until Jessica's mom moves or this dies down. If Auntie knows anything at all or was in anyway involved walking to her mail box probably gives her a panic attack. Offering condolences might do her in. Finding the right words for someone suffering a loss is hard enough and unless Auntie is a total psychopath-which I don't think she is-she probably isn't physically able.
Living in a small town myself I think the "party" was likely a group of regulars hanging at a flop house-one with a steady flow of traffic-that might look like a party to outsiders.

 

[distracted]

With all due respect, all evidence points to Jessica deciding what she wanted to write about. I think she would decide what was "important."

We were typing at the same time. And I think you misunderstood me. I think she had plenty to write about whether she was "happy" or not.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

I absolutely agree with you. Here comes the "but"...you are the company you keep. And mothers can't possibly know what their 19-year-olds are doing 24/7. I know this because I have a daughter who is 19. I know a great deal but there is also a great deal I don't know. How could I?

Not to mention the fact that her mother stated in an interview earlier this week that Jessica had been in "at least two abusive relationships". That experience alone is worth writing about.

I definitely think she had a story to tell, possibly two. Lol. Was it a story that would prompt someone to murder her? I don't think we will ever know.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

Auntie may be staying elsewhere until Jessica's mom moves or this dies down. If Auntie knows anything at all or was in anyway involved walking to her mail box probably gives her a panic attack. Offering condolences might do her in. Finding the right words for someone suffering a loss is hard enough and unless Auntie is a total psychopath-which I don't think she is-she probably isn't physically able.
Living in a small town myself I think the "party" was likely a group of regulars hanging at a flop house-one with a steady flow of traffic-that might look like a party to outsiders.

I find it odd that Auntie is staying away from Lisa. then again, I find Auntie odd period. I just don't understand not reaching out to the mother of my murdered friend who happens to live across the street.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I doubt there is anything "easily" about a totally unrelated, out of state suspect in Jessica's murder. This isn't a television show. While we do not know exactly what has happened, absolutely no one publicly has suggested it is a random murder by a serial killer.

No this isn't a television show and LE is having no luck in finding out who did this in a town of less than 500 people. Hmmmm...maybe they should be looking outside the normal suspects.

By the way, he is only a murder suspect not a "serial killer". But anytime you have a person on the run from the law for a capital crime, it ups the chances he will commit other crimes wherever he lands to keep from being caught. You have a girl who was alone and could have been a perfect target for a robbery or a carjacking gone wrong. And you have the murder suspect in the very town where she was murdered and he left his victim's car nearby. This makes him a possibility as much as anyone else there. They have 0 suspects and no good evidence.

 

[flatfootjoe]

If we could know for sure that she did feel her lifetime fitting material for an autobiography even before she turned 21, I think it's an important clue regarding her character: ego-driven self-assurance, or merely the need to project same? Bright vanity, or dark vexation; self-confidence, or self-doubt? It seems to me to signify a certain world-weariness, perhaps a kind of bipolarity; but it could also as easily be read as a victory statement -- of perseverance, of beating the odds.

What do you guys think?

BBM. I think that sums it up perfectly.

 

[MyBelle]

Auntie may be staying elsewhere until Jessica's mom moves or this dies down. If Auntie knows anything at all or was in anyway involved walking to her mail box probably gives her a panic attack. Offering condolences might do her in. Finding the right words for someone suffering a loss is hard enough and unless Auntie is a total psychopath-which I don't think she is-she probably isn't physically able.
Living in a small town myself I think the "party" was likely a group of regulars hanging at a flop house-one with a steady flow of traffic-that might look like a party to outsiders.

The gig is up. CW isn't Jessica's "auntie" in any way, shape or form. Her mother failed to confirm they were even close friends to the point of covering for murder. If "auntie" knows anything at all and wants it to be a bargaining tool, she'll be smart and reveal it to law enforcement. If not, she'll take her chances. Pretty cut and dried, imo.

 

[MyBelle]

No this isn't a television show and LE is having no luck in finding out who did this in a town of less than 500 people. Hmmmm...maybe they should be looking outside the normal suspects.

By the way, he is only a murder suspect not a "serial killer". But anytime you have a person on the run from the law for a capital crime, it ups the chances he will commit other crimes wherever he lands to keep from being caught. You have a girl who was alone and could have been a perfect target for a robbery or a carjacking gone wrong.

I have no idea who you think is a murder suspect in this case because none have been named. Nothing "ups the chances" of someone who has no ties to the crime to begin with.

 

[flatfootjoe]

I have no idea who you think is a murder suspect in this case because none have been named. Nothing "ups the chances" of someone who has no ties to the crime to begin with.

To be fair, IIRC the individual referred to as a murder suspect, is indeed a murder suspect in a completely unrelated case.