MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #8

[cady]

Found this when I went to look at the link:
Justice for Jessica Harassing her family and pretending to be detectives are not helping! These people say they know the family had nothing to do with it.. They just want justice.. Please enlighten me on how harassing Jessica's family is getting justice?? It's not! I sincerely apologize to ALL our loyal supporters that truly want Justice for Jessica.. I hope you can forgive my rude behavior.. I just felt I needed to say this.. There is still no news so the people giving false information is doing just that, giving false information. They're just people trying to stir up trouble.. Justice can only be found in the truth! Not a bunch of assumptions & lies.Thank you, Justice for Jessica

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1573137692923376&id=1551813758389103

Guess each of us need to decide for ourselves, in light of the attitudes of the family, what to do about further discussion of assumptions.

(modsnip) Perhaps they have told LE what they know, privately. But Lisa claimed in the interview to not know anything and not be updated by LE and not interested in speaking with Charlotte. All of this is bizarre, to me. JMO

 

[Crosby87]

Coincidentally, Ben died in a MVA on the 7th day of the month and so did Jessica.

Christmas was just around the corner when Jess died and the pain of loosing a loved one often increases and becomes unbearable at this time of year. When Jess lost her brother, she was consumed by grief. She tried to control her emotions but found it was really hard.

In Jessica’s message to her brother Ben, she specifically said she wishes she could pick up the phone and call him because he always made her smile. The battery in Jess’s phone, which was apparently difficult to remove, was intentionally taken out of her phone.

When Jessica bought more gas than usual, she wouldn't tell the store clerk where she was going. If she really intended to go to the car wash and grab a bite to eat, why would she hide this from him? If Jess went to a car wash or restaurant, there would be evidence.

I wonder if Jess planned to go to the Chapel Hill Cemetery where Ben was laid to rest? Considering how close Jess was to her brother, it makes sense she would want to visit his grave-site on her day off.

Are there surveillance cameras at Chapel Hill cemetery?

 

[Vedder]

Coincidentally, Ben died in a MVA on the 7th day of the month and so did Jessica.

Christmas was just around the corner when Jess died and the pain of loosing a loved one often increases and becomes unbearable at this time of year. When Jess lost her brother, she was consumed by grief. She tried to control her emotions but found it was really hard.

In Jessica’s message to her brother Ben, she specifically said she wishes she could pick up the phone and call him because he always made her smile. The battery in Jess’s phone, which was apparently difficult to remove, was intentionally taken out of her phone.

When Jessica bought more gas than usual, she wouldn't tell the store clerk where she was going. If she really intended to go to the car wash and grab a bite to eat, why would she hide this from him? If Jess went to a car wash or restaurant, there would be evidence.

I wonder if Jess planned to go to the Chapel Hill Cemetery where Ben was laid to rest? Considering how close Jess was to her brother, it makes sense she would want to visit his grave-site on her day off.

Are there surveillance cameras at Chapel Hill cemetery?

BBM There may very well be evidence - LE stated they have additional videotape. I wish we had more details! But if keeping everything close to the vest will ensure putting away the individual(s) who did this to Jessica, then I'm okay with not knowing anything at this point.

 

[menmo]

I am wondering if the killer(s) who set the car and poor Jessica on fire would smell of smoke (his/her/their clothing etc.) If so, did someone who wasn't involved in this heinous crime detect a smell on the killer? I know it's a long shot and considerable time has passed since this crime took place. In other words, would anyone have reported this to LE? Then again, the killer(s) IMO would have made a rapid getaway so whether a smoke smell had time to permeate clothing is the question. Just a thought and I may be way off the track.

I keep thinking of the smelling of smoke and the accelerant used to start the fire. Would the smell be the same for a bonfire?
It's all I can come up with unless like you suggested the person left the area.

JMO

 

[prallypie]

I really think that the phone wasn't left there that night and here is my thought process...the perps took it ->snooped as much as they could to get dirt on what Jessica had been up to or who she was talking to (an attempt to justify in their mind what they had just done?) ->got paranoid that it was 'pinging'/revealing their location or that they might be found with it in their possession ->went back to Herron Rd ->placed the phone in the ditch.
Could they have thought that if they put the phone back there that LE wouldn't look into the phone activity (pings) any further?

When was her phone found? Who collected it? Where was it found? Was the SIM card removed? Sorry, but this part has been sketchy from the get go.
Has there been any confirmation that it was collected that night OR was it picked up, as was originally reported, the next day while that reporter was at the scene? I remember reading that she observed someone pull up on the road and pick up 'an item', place it in a brown paper bag and drive away. Not part of combing the scene for evidence, just a zeroed in item pick up. Almost like someone called LE and told them to go back and get that one specific item from that very specific spot, IMO.

 

[samantha17]

I am wondering if the killer(s) who set the car and poor Jessica on fire would smell of smoke (his/her/their clothing etc.) If so, did someone who wasn't involved in this heinous crime detect a smell on the killer? I know it's a long shot and considerable time has passed since this crime took place. In other words, would anyone have reported this to LE? Then again, the killer(s) IMO would have made a rapid getaway so whether a smoke smell had time to permeate clothing is the question. Just a thought and I may be way off the track.

Yes, they would reek of smoke, but if the perp is part of the cover-up then those involved or related are showing their loyalty by keeping quiet.

 

[dairydog]

Yes, they would reek of smoke, but if the perp is part of the cover-up then those involved or related are showing their loyalty by keeping quiet.

Yes you're absolutely right but I guess someone could have called in a tip to Crimestoppers. We can only hope. If LE has information like this we wouldn't be privy to it. Just MOO.

 

[samantha17]

From what I've read elsewhere, there are some very mean people who are making assumptions that don't appear to be backed up by facts. I befriended a man who does just that and asked him once to show me the evidence to his claims. He never replied. But yet, he keeps posting heinous things about Jessica's mother and other people, and other people like his posts without asking any questions.

If this is the type of things they're refering to on Justice for Jessica, then I can understand their anger. I thought that what we've been doing here was more... humane and "professional".

I really wish that justice could be made for that poor girl but, at the same time, the lack of information and the lack of cooperation from the family (which could just be because they're following LE's orders) sometimes makes me want to stop sleuthing the case. But yet, I keep coming back here... Go figure.

But all posts posted on Websleuths are supposed to be supported by facts/links .... I too wish that all posts not supported by facts/links = inuendo, gossip, hearsay, hysteria, self-promotion etc. concerning the family be deleted. Many people have disparaged members of JC's family by what they've told or not told the media and their demeanor during those interviews. Until or unless some of the negative posters here go through what JC's family has gone through then you have no right to judge the demeanor or content of their interviews.

 

[SeeAlice]

You can buy used phones dirt cheap.

And the pay as you go phones don't cost much either, even the smartphone types.

 

[SeeAlice]

I keep thinking of the smelling of smoke and the accelerant used to start the fire. Would the smell be the same for a bonfire?
It's all I can come up with unless like you suggested the person left the area.

JMO

No, it would not smell like a bonfire unless they usually put upholstery and electronics and tires and plastic in their bonfires. Plenty of wood around there so I doubt they would.

The smell of wood burning is very distinct and not unpleasant. Think of walking into a barbecue restaurant that serves meats smoked over (hickory) wood. Petroleum based plastics (not to mention fuel), man-made fibers (upholstery, carpets, head liner), etc. give off very acrid, unpleasantly odored smoke.


JMO

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Agreed! The mods are protecting the site as well members from unintentional liable. We are all questing for resolution to crimes, but mentioning names can be tricky. If someone is falsely accused on this forum and a future employer searches and sees it, then there has been damage to a person's reputation. I can understand the frustration as I'm not always clear on who is safe to sleuth / reference, but we have to respect the mods who make it possible for this site to exist.

That is one reason why I'm a big fan of using asterisks. For instance, I will type a particular name & change a vowel in it to an *.
By placing an asterisk in a name, that name is less likely to come up in a Google search.

As far as social media & the internet.....all I want to say is that communication is fluid & it is a tool. What is considered appropriate & reliable during one decade may not apply to the next.

All moo

 

[Vedder]

That is one reason why I'm a big fan of using asterisks. For instance, I will type a particular name & change a vowel in it to an *.
By placing an asterisk in a name, that name is less likely to come up in a Google search.

As far as social media & the internet.....all I want to say is that communication is fluid & it is a tool. What is considered appropriate & reliable during one decade may not apply to the next.

All moo

I wondered why you do that - now I know.

 

[MSCJgrad]

:welcome: Welcome, thanks for posting, and I find it funny that you mentioned it being difficult for you to navigate through a non-iPhone-phone, because I am in the same boat!! I have had an iPhone since they came out, and I am completely team Mac. It's just what i'm comfortable with, and for over a decade, when my dad would upgrade his device for home or work, I would take his 'old' computer, phone, iPad, what have you, so they seem to cycle through our family. O/T, I know, but my husband and I were laughing the other day that our 2 year old knows how to use an iPhone and iPad, and I jokingly said that I would not know how to opperate another kind of phone! I know nothing about their batteries, how to turn them on and off, etc. The last phone I had before my first iPhone was a cingular flip phone, and those batteries flew off if you looked at them wrong. To have this post somewhat pertain to this case, I do not know if any of us can be certain of the location of the phone, when it was recovered as evidence, or what kind of phone it was. All we can do is hope and pray that LE/FBI got their hands on it and were able to access her complete phone and ping records from her phone company, which would include contacts, phone calls, pictures, cellular data, siociall media information, and text message details, as well as location trackers. Considering the lack of tangible evidence in this case, this is the best shot LE has at getting the charges to stick, IMO. Let us hope for the best!!

*First time poster, long time reader*
With the abundance of pages on the Jessica Chambers, and only started exploring them a few days ago, this may have been brought up already. I apologize in advance, if that's the case.
I just wanted to "piggyback" the discussions about her phone, and ask: Is the battery in an obvious spot? In other words, if someone has always been an iPhone user (such as myself), would I easily find where the battery is and how to remove it? Is a special tool needed?
Why I ask: If the battery placement and/or removal method is unique, it'd COULD imply the suspect(s) having experience with that model. With so many different phones out there, to narrow down those who have phones like JC. I get the impression that a majority of the population is extremely loyal to a particular smart phone brand, even buying the same model over and over. I am fairly comfortable on most computer devices, PC and MAC, but find if difficult to navigate through an non iPhone phone, even anything external action like plugging into charge.

 

[MSCJgrad]

Thank you!! Clearly in this instance, your in depth experience trumps my 10 minute google search :laughing:. You are seriously a plethora of information. When I build my dream home and need it to be outfitted with surveillance cameras, remind me to contact you! What you said regarding the hard drive makes perfect sense now, and I had forgotten that LE allegedly took the hard drive according to AA (all I think of pertaining to CCTV footage in this case is the video of LE standing inside of the M&M taking a video of the TV playing the footage, smh). It also makes sense that to erase some of the data would require you to erase all of the data. After I went back and re-read some things, I saw that clear as day also! Thanks for your input. I understand much better now!

Hiya MSCJ. Nearly all security DVRs sold in the last ten years are sold with integrated harddrives. Capacity starts usually at 500GB, using the typical 4 low res cameras this provides about 30 days of footage with cameras in the always on condition. Much more footage could be captured using cameras with motion sensor technology. The "typical" configuration in most cases is always on however. Analog or digital tape is a throwback to a different time. Hard drive storage has been very affordable for over a decade now and manufacturers took rapid advantage of that fact.

Also IIRC, local LE used the language "we took the hard drive".

I recently archived a day and a half of footage for a moonlighter client I do side work for to a DVD. There were some shenaningans going on in an office that they wanted video proof of for attorneys, without exposing all their security footage. This is standard behavior on any modernish DVR. Also, the very affordable DVR will allow me to drop the entire month to an external if that's what I want. Degaussing a hard drive won't just erase the data on it, it effectively destroys the circuitry on the drive controller, making the drive useless, and irrevocably destroying the data contained on it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

You can buy used phones dirt cheap.

And use those on cheap plans, too? I honestly don't know.

 

[MSCJgrad]

The ATF has added $10,000 to the reward for information on the Jessica Chambers Investigation. "A new donation has raised the reward fund for information in the Jessica Chambers case. The ATF has just added $10,000, which raises the reward to $53,000."

This particular article mentions nothing else, except for the fact that there is no new information about the case.



http://wreg.com/2015/01/22/atf-adds...nformation-in-jessica-chambers-investigation/

 

[MSCJgrad]

The Clarion Ledger was not far behind...

Anyone offering authorities information that leads to the capture and conviction of the person responsible for the burning death of Courtland teen Jessica Chambers could now receive more than $50,000 in reward money.

On Thursday evening, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms put out a release announcing the addition of $10,000 to the $43,000 currently offered. That includes money from U.S. Marshals Service, FBI, Mississippi State Fire Marshal's Office, CrimeStoppers, and private donations.

"We all have a vested interest in arresting and bringing to justice the person(s) responsible for this heinous crime," said ATF Special Agent in Charge Phillip Durham. "Arson is a crime of violence leaving physical and emotional scars that last a lifetime. Only those victims who have survived understand the sheer terror of being attacked by fire. Unfortunately, Jessica Chambers' life was cut short, as she did not survive."

<modsnip>

Anyone with information is encouraged to call ATF at (662) 513-2140 or use the ATF Hotline at 1-888-ATF-FIRE (1-888-283-3473). Callers can remain anonymous.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...ica-chambers-killer-now-up-to-53000/22190929/.

Thank God they have not forgotten or given up Also, it is reassuring to me, somehow, that they are finally naming somebody who is working on this case besides Darby & the DA. :cow:

 

[monster]

So they have do not have a PRIME SUSPECT. Choice of words makes me think that they have a handful of people in mind.

 

[SteveP]

So they have do not have a PRIME SUSPECT. Choice of words makes me think that they have a handful of people in mind.

Makes me think they don't have any DNA evidence or other physical evidence that ties anyone to her murder.

 

[monster]

Makes me think they don't have any DNA evidence or physical evidence that ties anyone to her murder.

Yeah...shoot, its amazing how a few choice word or lack of is so telling. I went from half way optimistic to 3/4 pessimistic now.