MSM coverage of Baby Lisa, 11/8/11

[JSV]

There are so many initials being used in this case, I don't know who is who..JMHO

We need a who's who page . I can't keep up with all the initials either .

 

[natsound]

I dont think that she still had them. I think she wanted LE to check them against ones LE collected when the break-in took place.

I can see that.

 

[Sparklin]

It would be interesting to hear who made the first move towards this re-communicating

It would! But whoever made it, the other accepted...FINALLY :great:

 

[cluciano63]

I'm a believer that the answer is not going to be overly complicated in the end.

I was just going to say the same thing. I don't think it is all that complicated in Haleigh's case either; LE is just facing groups of people who are apparently comfortable enough with police to decline cooperating, something I would never have it in me to, even if it was techinically in my best interest. I can easily see this case going the way of so many others, where children seem to vanish into the black hole of the universe and no one pays a price.

 

[Michelle129th]

My personal feeling is that MW isn't being completely honest about everything. I do think she's into some shady stuff and just doesn't want to come clean about it. And truly, I couldn't care less about that stuff anyway. I don't for one second, though, believe she had anything at all to do with Lisa's disappearance.

JMO

I think you're right....because i can't figure out where she would even fit into this crazy puzzle. I just think with her saying Dane had the phone the entire 3rd and 4th...but yet proof of her posting to facebook at 1:36 am on the 4th, and then admitting she was out at a waffle house at 2am on the 4th seems a bit coincidental. She must've had that phone in her possession at some point that night. Also, with there being no exact times for that phone call to have been placed to her phone we're still in the dark as to whether or not it was at 8:30 or 2:30 as the rumours have been going around. If it was a 2:30 am call.....things start to look shady to me. Some things in her story just don't add up and if we're saying Deborah may be guilty because she's changed her story or lied....I feel I should challenge MW's story changing and inconsistencies too.

This is making my head spin

 

[passionflower]

Im sorry but my husband wouldn't be very happy if I was drinking, smoking and chatting it up with some new guy on the block while he's working his butt off trying to make ends meet for his family and the children are alone inside... One being SICK! My gawd! Put the wine down!!! IMO I'm wondering if this is why the new guy just popped up? Should be interesting...

and to add spending money on boxe(s) of wine for adult time 2-3 times a week!
Blacking out? and not caring for 3 children?
If all this is correct than JI takes allot of crap from DB unless he is the same way.
:waitasec:

 

[MysteryAddict]

We need to know-----

If the neighbor "Shane" spent 90 minutes out front with Deb and Samantha, did he
observe Deb make a cell phone call during that time!!!

If he was with her during the time that call was made (8 to 8:30) and she made no
call then someone else had her phone.

 

[flipflop]

We need to know-----

If the neighbor "Shane" spent 90 minutes out front with Deb and Samantha, did he
observe Deb make a cell phone call during that time!!!

If he was with her during the time that call was made (8 to 8:30) and she made no
call then someone else had her phone.

she could have went inside to use a phone to make a call, her drinking buddys could have been her cover and they didn't even know it, she could have slipped inside to make a cell phone call and no one was the wiser

 

[Abby Normal]

It would! But whoever made it, the other accepted...FINALLY :great:

They've been communicating all along, Young said so himself a few times. They just aren't getting the answers they need. Vital questions. etc and so forth.

 

[Littleone48]

I have always wondered about revenge being a motive of some sort. If mom did not accidentally kill the child and cover it up that is.

Possible revenge scenarios:

1. The baby belongs to another bio dad. He is angry at DB for staying with JI so he takes the child as a form of revenge. 2. DB's ex husband is very angry and he hires someone to take the baby to get revenge on his ex wife.

3. A woman is angry at DB for messing with her husband so she takes the child as revenge.

4. JI's ex wife takes the baby as revenge for losing custody of her son.

5. JI is involved in something illegal or shady and his partners take revenge.
6. The ex husband of the neighbor, SB, is very angry that night to be kicked out of his home. And he drives by and sees his wife sitting and drinking with DB. He is angry and blames them for getting him kicked out of his marriage. Revenge?

Any other possible scenarios come to mind?

Just jumping off your post as I have seen this a couple of times in this thread/case.

Why do we have to go down that road? Lisa's last name is Irwin and there is no indication that JI is not her father. IMO these people have to deal with enough negative rumors I really don't feel that this should be one.

Some day those kids are going to read up on this story and if their parents are innocent I would hate for them to read some of this stuff...

 

[AlmostGone]

and to add spending money on boxe(s) of wine for adult time 2-3 times a week!
Blacking out? and not caring for 3 children?
If all this is correct than JI takes allot of crap from DB unless he is the same way.
:waitasec:

Even more with no money... and bills being unpaid.. Yet smokes and wine are plentiful IMO

 

[flipflop]

Just jumping off your post as I have seen this a couple of times in this thread/case.

Why do we have to go down that road? Lisa's last name is Irwin and there is no indication that JI is not her father. IMO these people have to deal with enough negative rumors I really don't feel that this should be one.

Some day those kids are going to read up on this story and if their parents are innocent I would hate for them to read some of this stuff...

I would hate for those kids to read ANYTHING related to this case...can you imagine them reading about mom passed out/drunk when their baby sister lisa disappeared!!!!!!!! OR that mom and dad wouldn't let LE talk to them about noises or anything about the night their baby sister was taken.

 

[In da Middle]

We need to know-----

If the neighbor "Shane" spent 90 minutes out front with Deb and Samantha, did he
observe Deb make a cell phone call during that time!!!

If he was with her during the time that call was made (8 to 8:30) and she made no
call then someone else had her phone.

Or it means the call did not happen at 8:30.

 

[Sparklin]

she could have went inside to use a phone to make a call, her drinking buddys could have been her cover and they didn't even know it, she could have slipped inside to make a cell phone call and no one was the wiser

except he has already stated that she did not check on the baby, so if that's a fact, (which I'm not saying it is) then she couldn't have gone in at all during that time or how would he know??

 

[AlmostGone]

I would hate for those kids to read ANYTHING related to this case...can you imagine them reading about mom passed out/drunk when their baby sister lisa disappeared!!!!!!!!

If I was her child reading this in the future.... I'd be very angry, hurt, disappointed, and want a lot of answers.... IMO

 

[epiphany]

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2011/1...win-you-tweeted-jim-spellman-answered-twitter

"Jim, any word on what the family and attorney and PI plan is to find baby Lisa? I don’t see them looking. I don’t see a plan," CaseSignal asked Spellman on Twitter.

 

[Sparklin]

They've been communicating all along, Young said so himself a few times. They just aren't getting the answers they need. Vital questions. etc and so forth.

I know but it's just one more confirmation that D/J are not being uncooperative.

 

[katydid23]

Just jumping off your post as I have seen this a couple of times in this thread/case.

Why do we have to go down that road? Lisa's last name is Irwin and there is no indication that JI is not her father. IMO these people have to deal with enough negative rumors I really don't feel that this should be one.

Some day those kids are going to read up on this story and if their parents are innocent I would hate for them to read some of this stuff...

If and when these kids look up info about this case then I think they will be reading much worse stuff than my speculation of the baby's paternity.

I am just putting it out as one possible revenge scenario. Who knows if it is accurate? The important thing would be if someone else thought it was.

 

[passionflower]

I would hate for those kids to read ANYTHING related to this case...can you imagine them reading about mom passed out/drunk when their baby sister lisa disappeared!!!!!!!! OR that mom and dad wouldn't let LE talk to them about noises or anything about the night their baby sister was taken.

Sad thing is they are old enough to have memories.........for life.

 

[imamaze]

We need a who's who page . I can't keep up with all the initials either .

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