MSNBC to Imus: You're FIRED!

  • #321
Please tell me Imus' name won't be immortalized as a description of a racist remark. I can see it now.

"Teacher teacher! Jimmy Imus'd me!!!"


How funny your post is!!! Aren't new words added to the dictionary every year? It could be headed that way.
 
  • #322
But what is your point exactly? I think we've shown that all genres have music that is considered offensive to some people. If you don't like his music, don't listen to it and don't buy it. If you hear it played on the radio and it offends you, complain.
--lol "Rapper Kilo"--like a "kilo" of cocaine?--yet another pathetic moronic name,almost as bad as "Ludacris"--too funny--and,btw it is not "music"--I don't know what it is but it sure ain't music--these poor kids today,having to listen to that junk
 
  • #323
i agree.. it's gross and ignorant noise... mostly exists to only further negative black stereotypes and contributes to violence... as if their culture (or any of us) needed more of either of those things. 'freedom of expression' my a$$!!
 
  • #324
i agree.. it's gross and ignorant noise... mostly exists to only further negative black stereotypes and contributes to violence... as if their culture (or any of us) needed more of either of those things. 'freedom of expression' my a$$!!

So you are basing your opinion on the few excertps of rap music you have heard on the radio? Radio plays what the public demands. There is an entire world of music - great music - not receiving airplay. I don't know how anyone could dismiss an entire genre of music, especially when they admittedly don't know too much about it.
 
  • #325
So you are basing your opinion on the few excertps of rap music you have heard on the radio? Radio plays what the public demands. There is an entire world of music - great music - not receiving airplay. I don't know how anyone could dismiss an entire genre of music, especially when they admittedly don't know too much about it.

I don't think that is necessarily the case. It's obvious that there is still an element of payola going on between record companies and radio stations.

As for rap music, there's a ton of amazing stuff that will never see the light of day (is that possible since we listen to music?). Most of this is stuff that tackles real issues and brings social awareness. Most of the stuff you hear on the radio and see on MTV deals with money, fame, cars, and the like. Before I get off on a completely unrelated rant about how this is steering away today's youth from realistic values...I'll stop there.

It's easy to slam something you are ignorant about. And that isn't meant as an insult...I'm ignorant about many things. Most people are ingnorant about the word ignorant...they see it as a slam. Sorry, another tangent.
 
  • #326
I don't think that is necessarily the case. It's obvious that there is still an element of payola going on between record companies and radio stations.

As for rap music, there's a ton of amazing stuff that will never see the light of day (is that possible since we listen to music?). Most of this is stuff that tackles real issues and brings social awareness. Most of the stuff you hear on the radio and see on MTV deals with money, fame, cars, and the like. Before I get off on a completely unrelated rant about how this is steering away today's youth from realistic values...I'll stop there.

It's easy to slam something you are ignorant about. And that isn't meant as an insult...I'm ignorant about many things. Most people are ingnorant about the word ignorant...they see it as a slam. Sorry, another tangent.

You are absolutely correct. I had forgotten about Eliot Spitzer's campaign to expose this shady practice. I agree with you about steering the youth from realistic values. Shows like Cribs and My Super Sweet 16 certainly don't help. I could definitely join you on that tangent!
 
  • #327
My Super Sweet 16

I'm still trying to figure out MTV's angle on this show. Are they trying to expose bratty and snobby girls or are they glorifying this behavior? In either case, the way that those girls act on this show is atrocious.
 
  • #328
In all fairness.......in this day and time, and others before now, there are hosandbitches floating around in the world, from all walks of life. Most of us deal with one on a weekly basis at the very least, so when those songs float in, I know that they are not referring to me......unless it was that one Key West weekend long ago and far away. :innocent:

But - I could also turn to the station, especially to a county music one - and cry in my beer over the lying, cheat, drunk, non-working leach lowlife's that mingle within the male species. And I know that the few rare gems with testosterone don't pop into my thoughts if I hear such lyrics.

Entering middle-age sucks as I still kick in my favorite CD's when the kids aren't home and Kid Rock it up and down the Block, but then I have to admit that I know that I don't have much longer before I sign up for Tipper Gore's newsletters. Crazy times we are living in....
 
  • #329
CBS Suspens Shock Jocks For Racially Charged Prank:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268024,00.html

NEW YORK — Still recovering from the Don Imus scandal, CBS Radio suspended two local shock jocks after they twice broadcast a racially charged prank call to employees at a Chinese restaurant.
The hosts of the daily morning show, WFNY-FM's "The Dog House With JV and Elvis," have been suspended indefinitely without pay, CBS Radio spokeswoman Karen Mateo told The New York Times in an e-mail Monday. One of the hosts, Jeff Vandergrift, apologized on Monday's show, she said.
Local chapters of the Organization of Chinese Americans, an advocacy group, released a statement Sunday protesting the segment. By Monday, California state Sen. Leland Yee and others joined the campaign.
In the segment, broadcast on April 5 — a day after the infamous Imus comment on CBS — and again last week, a caller to a Chinese restaurant intersperses an order for takeout with lewd language.
The caller tells one female employee he wants to come to the restaurant to see her naked and refers to a part of her body as "hot, Asian, spicy." The caller also attempts to order "shrimp flied lice." (More @ Link)
 
  • #330
CBS Suspens Shock Jocks For Racially Charged Prank:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268024,00.html

NEW YORK — Still recovering from the Don Imus scandal, CBS Radio suspended two local shock jocks after they twice broadcast a racially charged prank call to employees at a Chinese restaurant.
The hosts of the daily morning show, WFNY-FM's "The Dog House With JV and Elvis," have been suspended indefinitely without pay, CBS Radio spokeswoman Karen Mateo told The New York Times in an e-mail Monday. One of the hosts, Jeff Vandergrift, apologized on Monday's show, she said.
Local chapters of the Organization of Chinese Americans, an advocacy group, released a statement Sunday protesting the segment. By Monday, California state Sen. Leland Yee and others joined the campaign.
In the segment, broadcast on April 5 — a day after the infamous Imus comment on CBS — and again last week, a caller to a Chinese restaurant intersperses an order for takeout with lewd language.
The caller tells one female employee he wants to come to the restaurant to see her naked and refers to a part of her body as "hot, Asian, spicy." The caller also attempts to order "shrimp flied lice." (More @ Link)

Pranks to Chinese restaurants are OLD. They're suspending people for this now?
 
  • #331
Pranks to Chinese restaurants are OLD. They're suspending people for this now?

I agree. Maybe they were suspended for lack of originality.
 
  • #332
I agree. Maybe they were suspended for lack of originality.

I'm not sure what to think about this one, but my Asian friends say there is nothing more offense than people mocking their speech and apparently, this happens frequently.
 
  • #333
I'm not sure what to think about this one, but my Asian friends say there is nothing more offense than people mocking their speech and apparently, this happens frequently.

Americans as a group are rather famously ignorant of languages other than our own (and some would question our knowledge of even that). As far as I'm concerned, our mocking the accent of any speaker of a second language is pretty offensive.
 
  • #334
Americans as a group are rather famously ignorant of languages other than our own (and some would question our knowledge of even that). As far as I'm concerned, our mocking the accent of any speaker of a second language is pretty offensive.


Americans also "mock" other full-blooded Americans speech...I am from GA and have a very deep southern accent...I can't tell you how many times I have been told about my "southern" accent. And I swear everytime I use anything like 411 (information) I have to actually SPELL what I am saying...my accent is so thick others don't understand it...I speak 100% correctly and still others comment on it...this really doesn't have much to do with the thread, I thought I'd just add it anyway.
 
  • #335
Americans also "mock" other full-blooded Americans speech...I am from GA and have a very deep southern accent...I can't tell you how many times I have been told about my "southern" accent. And I swear everytime I use anything like 411 (information) I have to actually SPELL what I am saying...my accent is so thick others don't understand it...I speak 100% correctly and still others comment on it...this really doesn't have much to do with the thread, I thought I'd just add it anyway.

I was making a joke about American ignorance of languages.

Personally, I love Southern "accents." I was raised in Florida but my folks were from the Midwest and I left the Southeast 30 years ago, so my own Southern accent comes and goes, depending on to whom I speak.

But if you and I ever meet, White Rain, I'll be talking just like you (and happily so) in a few minutes. (I mention this just so you'll know I'm not mocking your speech. :))
 
  • #336
I was making a joke about American ignorance of languages.

Personally, I love Southern "accents." I was raised in Florida but my folks were from the Midwest and I left the Southeast 30 years ago, so my own Southern accent comes and goes, depending on to whom I speak.

But if you and I ever meet, White Rain, I'll be talking just like you (and happily so) in a few minutes. (I mention this just so you'll know I'm not mocking your speech. :))

Mine comes and goes according to how much I drink! The drunker I am, the more it comes out :D

I do tend to adapt to the local dialect fairly quickly. Pick it up in days, and takes weeks to drop it!

When my parents divorced, I spent half the year in Tennessee, and half the year in Michigan. When I'd get down there, the kids would make fun of how I talked, and gave me "speech lessons." Then, when I'd get home, I'd get made fun of all over again! :doh: I think picking up the local accent in a hurry is deeply ingrained for me :)
 
  • #337
Mine comes and goes according to how much I drink! The drunker I am, the more it comes out :D

I do tend to adapt to the local dialect fairly quickly. Pick it up in days, and takes weeks to drop it!

When my parents divorced, I spent half the year in Tennessee, and half the year in Michigan. When I'd get down there, the kids would make fun of how I talked, and gave me "speech lessons." Then, when I'd get home, I'd get made fun of all over again! :doh: I think picking up the local accent in a hurry is deeply ingrained for me :)

I think the term you are looking for is "lack of character." At least that's what it probably is in my case.

Of course, nobody knows what the heck White Rain is saying, but at least she knows who she is. :D
 
  • #338
I think the term you are looking for is "lack of character." At least that's what it probably is in my case.

Of course, nobody knows what the heck White Rain is saying, but at least she knows who she is. :D

I've seen you accused of many things... but lack of character?? NEVER! :snooty:

:D
 
  • #339
I personally love southern accents. Nothing more beautiful, IMO. Besides, I grew up in northern CT which is land of no accents. I always wished I had an accent as a child. My poor brother-in-law has a combo Boston/Cape Cod accent that is so strong. He gets teased all the times at family gatherings.
 
  • #340
I personally love southern accents. Nothing more beautiful, IMO. Besides, I grew up in northern CT which is land of no accents. I always wished I had an accent as a child. My poor brother-in-law has a combo Boston/Cape Cod accent that is so strong. He gets teased all the times at family gatherings.

Who do you think you're kidding, Masterj?

Everybody knows Noo Yawkers have the weirdest accents of all! I bet you couldn't pronounce the letter "r" if your life depended on it! :laugh:
 

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