Found Deceased MT - Amy Harding-Permann, 34, Great Falls, 26 Jan 2020

  • #621
I mean, we had snow. But how many footprints are there going to be from his house to the river?
 
  • #622
I'm not local - I looked it up using a past weather website it said that between 6pm and midnight high was 39 and the low was 37. It was cloudy, no mention of snow on that day.

Assuming the website is correct, I'm not sure we can count on clear tracks in snow. Moo

Here's the link. For whatever reason, I can't get it to show me the whole day on the 26th.
Past Weather in Great Falls, Montana, USA — Yesterday or Further Back

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It bothered me that the website didn't have the whole day, so I looked it up again. Apparently, the high around 3pm was about 50 degrees. This data shows the high after 6pm at over 40, so it's not an exact match to the other website.

Great Falls, MT Weather History | Weather Underground
 
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  • #623
Was there fresh snow?

Otherwise footprints might not be present or meaningful if they were there.
Weather from page 1:
Weather conditions.

8:53 pm 37 °F Passing clouds.
7:53 pm 39 °F Passing clouds.

Past Weather in Great Falls, Montana, USA — Yesterday or Further Back
No snow. Photos from the next morning:

Search for missing person, Amy Harding

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Search personnel gather in the driveway of 343 Flood Road on Monday...

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Search personnel gather at 343 Flood Road on Monday afternoon...

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The search continues for Amy Elaine Harding, 34, along the Missouri River near the residence...

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Amy Elaine Harding, 34, was last seen leaving her Flood Road residence...

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343 Flood Road where Amy Elaine Harding, 34, was last seen on Sunday night...

(More at the link)
 
  • #624
Weather from page 1:
No snow. Photos from the next morning:

Search for missing person, Amy Harding

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Search personnel gather in the driveway of 343 Flood Road on Monday...

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Search personnel gather at 343 Flood Road on Monday afternoon...

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The search continues for Amy Elaine Harding, 34, along the Missouri River near the residence...

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Amy Elaine Harding, 34, was last seen leaving her Flood Road residence...

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343 Flood Road where Amy Elaine Harding, 34, was last seen on Sunday night...

(More at the link)
I scrolled past the pictures without clicking on and them didn't think to check them. Whoops. I guess that answers that.
 
  • #625
Yup, Answers my questions as well.
 
  • #626
I'm guilty of not always clicking on the photos, either. But have they checked downriver? I mean way down. If the current is as swift as a fast jogger, well, she'd be far along IF she went into the main arm of the river.
 
  • #627
  • #628
Is it just me or do others think there is something very odd about this case? No reward, minimal media, no pleas from family/friends, no prayer vigil (that I’m aware of), etc. Seems like Amy disappeared in thin air and nothing is being done to keep her name/face in front of the public other than infrequent reports from LE.
 
  • #629
In cases where that happens, I always wonder whether the family etc. knows things that haven't been made public.
 
  • #630
Is it just me or do others think there is something very odd about this case? No reward, minimal media, no pleas from family/friends, no prayer vigil (that I’m aware of), etc. Seems like Amy disappeared in thin air and nothing is being done to keep her name/face in front of the public other than infrequent reports from LE.

I really wish LE would give us more info about the data they found
 
  • #631
Is it just me or do others think there is something very odd about this case? No reward, minimal media, no pleas from family/friends, no prayer vigil (that I’m aware of), etc. Seems like Amy disappeared in thin air and nothing is being done to keep her name/face in front of the public other than infrequent reports from LE.

Nobody knows what happened, but I suspect the fact that Amy's boyfriend is a surgeon, reasonably wealthy, and likely a well respected member of an isolated community probably puts a damper on any irresponsible and sensationalist reporting, as well as LE updates.

But yes, I find it odd. I think if Amy went missing in my area, there would be a lightning bolt of media coverage.
 
  • #632
Is it just me or do others think there is something very odd about this case? No reward, minimal media, no pleas from family/friends, no prayer vigil (that I’m aware of), etc. Seems like Amy disappeared in thin air and nothing is being done to keep her name/face in front of the public other than infrequent reports from LE.
I think it’s VERY bizarre! Where are her friends? Her kids’ father? Her mom? Siblings? The boyfriend?! It’s like nobody cares. I’m kind of dumbfounded.
 
  • #633
I agree 1,000% with The Night Watchman! Due to the boyfriend’s professional career, neurosurgeon, this case has gone silent!

It is just another case of who you are, how wealthy you are, and/or who you know! Status!
 
  • #634
I agree 1,000% with The Night Watchman! Due to the boyfriend’s professional career, neurosurgeon, this case has gone silent!

It is just another case of who you are, how wealthy you are, and/or who you know! Status!

So yes, the case has gone silent. If this was a trailer park incident, we might hear a lot more about it since nobody is going to complain or contemplate legal action.

But if there are no conflicting connections between a potential suspect and LE or the media, I have a lot of confidence that LE is all over the case behind the scenes, quietly. It's their job, and they take pride in in what they do.

I really hope this gets resolved accurately, what ever result that may be.
 
  • #635
Is it just me or do others think there is something very odd about this case? No reward, minimal media, no pleas from family/friends, no prayer vigil (that I’m aware of), etc. Seems like Amy disappeared in thin air and nothing is being done to keep her name/face in front of the public other than infrequent reports from LE.
How odd and also sad :(
 
  • #636
Normally in these cases there are videos from family members and friends, asking the public for help. That is why this case is so bizarre, there is none of that going on.
 
  • #637
I think it’s VERY bizarre! Where are her friends? Her kids’ father? Her mom? Siblings? The boyfriend?! It’s like nobody cares. I’m kind of dumbfounded.
As someone that knew her family when I was a child, I also find it strange.
 
  • #638
Cascade County Sheriff Jesse Slaughter NEVER speaks in vague terms. He knows the law forward and backward, and seeks only to enforce it, never to interpret it. When he uses a law term like “assault”, even in a news conference; he is using it strictly as it is written, in the Montana Code Annotated 2019. IMO
Here is exactly what it says:

“Montana Code Annotated 2019
TITLE 45. CRIMES
CHAPTER 5. OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON
Part 2. Assault and Related Offenses
Assault

45-5-201. Assault. (1) A person commits the offense of assault if the person:
(a) purposely or knowingly causes bodily injury to another;
(b) negligently causes bodily injury to another with a weapon;
(c) purposely or knowingly makes physical contact of an insulting or provoking nature with any individual; or
(d) purposely or knowingly causes reasonable apprehension of bodily injury in another.

(2) A person convicted of assault shall be fined not to exceed $500 or be imprisoned in the county jail for any term not to exceed 6 months, or both.

History: En. 94-5-201 by Sec. 1, Ch. 513, L. 1973; R.C.M. 1947, 94-5-201; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 261, L. 1979; amd. Sec. 7, Ch. 198, L. 1981; amd. Sec. 1, Ch. 188, L. 1991; amd. Sec. 4, Ch. 432, L. 1999. “

45-5-201. Assault, MCA
 
  • #639
I agree 1,000% with The Night Watchman! Due to the boyfriend’s professional career, neurosurgeon, this case has gone silent!

It is just another case of who you are, how wealthy you are, and/or who you know! Status!

Not sure what you are saying. Are you saying her friends & family are quiet because of his status or LE is not doing their job or do you mean something else?
 
  • #640
There is a FB page for Amy (Amy Harding Missing). Initially, people were allowed to post but as soon as some started to speculate, the comments were shut off by admin.
It is now a public page for announcements only.
IMO, LE is keeping all information under wraps in order to preserve the integrity of the investigation.
 

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