Mt - Manhunt after 4 people shot in bar, Anaconda, 01 August 2025- **ARREST**

  • #41
Seriously, that must be a weight from an earlier time. I have male friends that are a similar height and lean, so I’d guess he’s closer to 140 lbs., 130 lbs., or even less in that photo.
Probably 150 to 160. Not looking good .
Although it may look like he is unfit ,if he is used to fasting and eating clean . This dude might be able to go for a while with fish and small game . If he was not being hunted ,that is. IMO.
 
  • #42
Probably 150 to 160. Not looking good .
Although it may look like he is unfit ,if he is used to fasting and eating clean . This dude might be able to go for a while with fish and small game . If he was not being hunted ,that is. IMO.

The area where they think he is, is full of Aspen, pine, not easy to look for someone, especially as they have to be cautious if he is armed. There are just so many places he could be...


 
  • #43
Probably 150 to 160. Not looking good .
Although it may look like he is unfit ,if he is used to fasting and eating clean . This dude might be able to go for a while with fish and small game . If he was not being hunted ,that is. IMO.

His weight is probably dependent on how much of his body is muscle vs. fat; regardless, he is on the leaner side of his weight class compared to the average weight at his height.

He could probably sustain himself with small game or fish, like you mentioned, but he’s also been on the run for days, possibly suffering from mental illness, dehydrated, and traversing the wilderness in one of the worst months, as far as weather goes, regardless of where you are.

I can’t imagine he can make it alone further for much longer.
 
  • #44

Update, summary as this is probably paywall.

The weather is getting chilly, wet, even some snow is coming tonight for over 7,000.

The law enforcement presence increased dramatically Thursday as a nearly weeklong search continued west of Anaconda for suspected killer Michael Brown.

Dozens of vehicles from varied law enforcement departments lined Stumptown and Ravndal roads. Several pickups bore the logo of Montana Fish, which manages the Garrity Mountain Wildlife Management Area in that vicinity.

Tomorrow is Day 7. Folks in the area are getting frustrated. Cabins in area are checked, none have been broken into.
 
  • #45
Rest in peace, Daniel, Nancy, David, and Tony !
My utmost condolences to their loved ones. 😭



My .02 is that "...he just snapped..." ; is not a motive !
Of course the DM has to be taken with the proverbial grain .

Sounds like his family was concerned about Michael.
Horrible if they attempted to get him help and he refused.
How is he managing to survive ?
Maybe he'll get caught rummaging through trash behind a restaurant for food.

Hunting is all very well in its' way, but if you're unsuccessful you will have to cave in and go back to civilization.
Sooner or later.

Praying no one else is harmed by this sick and mentally ill man.
I don't know if we'll ever understand the motive.
So sad for the families of his victims, I'm thinking he knew them and maybe they'd been on friendly terms w/M. Brown ?
Imo.
 
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  • #46
Great News!

(NewsNation) — Montana shooting suspect Michael Brown, who is accused of killing four people in an Anaconda bar last week, has been captured, Gov. Greg Gianforte announced Friday.

“The Anaconda shooter Michael Brown has been apprehended. Incredible response from law enforcement officers across Montana. Thank you to all partners for your commitment to the search. May God continue to be with the families of the four victims still grieving their loss,” Gianforte said on X.


 
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  • #48
Glad they captured him.
He needs to face justice for the lives he took, he also obv. needs to get help which he should be able to while in prison.
Just so sad it came to this.
Also feeling terrible for his family who it sounds tried to make him get treatment ?
Imo.
 
  • #49

Michael Brown, Army veteran, suspected of killing four at Anaconda bar is caught by law enforcement after week long search.​

Law enforcement in uniform.


Law enforcement officers at the scene of the arrest of Michael Paul Brown on Aug. 8, 2025, at a property adjacent to Montana Highway 1 west of Anaconda.

The manhunt for Michael Brown lasted seven days and included more than 250 personnel from 39 county, state and federal teams. Knudsen said Friday that he believed a 130-person sweep of a nearby hill the day prior forced Brown into an area law enforcement had already searched. At a Tuesday press conference, Montana’s top officials described the search as the highest priority in the state.

“It’s not some place he’d been hiding; he was flushed out,” Knudsen said.

Brown was in good physical condition and was “technically armed” when he was caught, Knudsen said, declining to elaborate further because of the ongoing homicide investigation. Brown has received medical care since his apprehension and is being held at the Butte-Silver Bow Detention Center. Knudsen specifically thanked the U.S. Marshals Service and Montana Division of Criminal Investigation.

 
  • #50
Just so sad it came to this.
Also feeling terrible for his family who it sounds tried to make him get treatment ?

Yes it was reported that Michael Brown's family repeatedly tried to get him into treatment but he was not willing. He may have believed that he was doing okay. It's a really sad situation all around.

There were only four people in the bar at the time of the incident. The female bartender and three adult patrons. Mr Brown was a regular at the bar, it was said that he knew each person there and that he didn't have any long running dispute with anyone.
 
  • #51
Yes it was reported that Michael Brown's family repeatedly tried to get him into treatment but he was not willing. He may have believed that he was doing okay. It's a really sad situation all around.
I imagine this will vary by state, but does Montana not have any legal means to involuntarily detain for mental health treatment persons thought to constitute a threat to themselves or other people?
 
  • #52
Dbm
 
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  • #53
I have a stupid question. Can a jail or prison force inmates to take MH medication?
 
  • #54
I imagine this will vary by state, but does Montana not have any legal means to involuntarily detain for mental health treatment persons thought to constitute a threat to themselves or other people?

Montana does have legal mechanisms to involuntarily detain individuals for mental health treatment, but only short term and only if they are believed to pose a threat to themselves or others.

Involuntary Commitment Law in Montana
(Title 53, Chapter 21, MCA) Under Montana Code 53-21-129, a person may be involuntarily detained and evaluated if: "There is probable cause to believe that the person suffers from a mental disorder and presents an imminent threat of injury to the person or others due to the mental disorder."

A person can be detained for up to 72 hours in this situation, and during that time a court order may be sought to keep them longer.

I have a stupid question. Can a jail or prison force inmates to take MH medication?

I like to think that there are no stupid questions (only stupid answers) :)

Yes I believe they can, under certain circumstances and with a court order.

The key ruling is Washington v. Harper (1990):
The Supreme Court held that prisoners can be forcibly medicated with antipsychotic drugs if:
  • They have a serious mental illness, and
  • They are a danger to themselves or others, and
  • The treatment is in their medical interest and
  • The decision is made through procedural safeguards, not arbitrarily.
Federal law, appears to cover all states.

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Montana does have legal mechanisms to involuntarily detain individuals for mental health treatment, but only short term and only if they are believed to pose a threat to themselves or others.

Involuntary Commitment Law in Montana
(Title 53, Chapter 21, MCA) Under Montana Code 53-21-129, a person may be involuntarily detained and evaluated if: "There is probable cause to believe that the person suffers from a mental disorder and presents an imminent threat of injury to the person or others due to the mental disorder."

A person can be detained for up to 72 hours in this situation, and during that time a court order may be sought to keep them longer.



I like to think that there are no stupid questions (only stupid answers) :)

Yes I believe they can, under certain circumstances and with a court order.

The key ruling is Washington v. Harper (1990):
The Supreme Court held that prisoners can be forcibly medicated with antipsychotic drugs if:
  • They have a serious mental illness, and
  • They are a danger to themselves or others, and
  • The treatment is in their medical interest and
  • The decision is made through procedural safeguards, not arbitrarily.
Federal law, appears to cover all states.

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I can go back to the old days when persons were mentally detained on the whim of a family member. Many times they should not have been in a mental facility and were often held for long periods of time - even years. That is the key to federal law today, which must determine if a person is a threat to others or him/herself before involuntarily being sent to a mental facility.
 
  • #56
Great. As if people in Anaconda don't already have enough guns.

"Anaconda shooting fugitive spurs some residents to buy guns for protection".

Doubtful patrons with guns would have stopped these killings. They were friends, no conflicts. No time to react to the unexpected act of a fellow patron.
 
  • #57
Doubtful patrons with guns would have stopped these killings. They were friends, no conflicts. No time to react to the unexpected act of a fellow patron.

Agreed.

I think at this point most of us have realized that more guns aren’t really the solution to our country’s issues with gun violence. If anything, there should have been better measures to prevent someone with long-standing mental health issues from having access to firearms in the first place.

Most people aren’t trained or able to react like SWAT team members to violence like that happening around them anyway.
 
  • #58
Agreed.

I think at this point most of us have realized that more guns aren’t really the solution to our country’s issues with gun violence. If anything, there should have been better measures to prevent someone with long-standing mental health issues from having access to firearms in the first place.

Most people aren’t trained or able to react like SWAT team members to violence like that happening around them anyway.

Yes. That is a real issue in Montana, where there are a lot of veterans, and everyone quotes the "2nd Amendment" like it is a Bible. And vets with mental health issues don't want their guns confiscated, so they avoid mental health treatment.

I have personally run into this issue several times. There is not a clear cut answer.
 
  • #59
Yes. That is a real issue in Montana, where there are a lot of veterans, and everyone quotes the "2nd Amendment" like it is a Bible. And vets with mental health issues don't want their guns confiscated, so they avoid mental health treatment.

I have personally run into this issue several times. There is not a clear cut answer.

It’s a difficult line to balance, I’d imagine. There must be a way to meet in the middle, where people with clear mental health issues can be treated and helped with dignity, while still protecting the community at large— where that is, I’m not sure, but incidents like this should be prevented from happening in the first place.
 
  • #60
It’s a difficult line to balance, I’d imagine. There must be a way to meet in the middle, where people with clear mental health issues can be treated and helped with dignity, while still protecting the community at large— where that is, I’m not sure, but incidents like this should be prevented from happening in the first place.

Honestly, in Montana, it is really a family issue. They need to step up, and do an intervention on getting guns out of hands of people with mental health issues. They can contact police for assistance, on how to do a non-conftontational intervention.

But with "gun show" loophole, he could have just bought more guns anyway.
 

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