Found Deceased MT - Rita Maze, 47, Wolf Creek, 6 Sept 2016 #1

[CARIIS]

Is it just me or does it look like the back window of her car was busted? Did the police do that to open the trunk or did the perp do that to get in her car?

I dont know, i dont think they would need to do that to get into a trunk? If perp did it he had to come prepared with some insturment to get in.

I locked my keys in about two years ago and ended up having to break a window and let me tell ya that was no easy thing it took some time with crow bar!!

 

[CARIIS]

What direction on this map was she traveling?

What I'm curious about is how far ahead would another place to use the restroom be? Did she know this the only option for miles and miles - or are there gas stations ahead? I'm assuming this type of rest stop did not have cameras that can be checked.

jmo

sorry if these are answered questions, did she drive thi root before??

 

[TTF14]

Just started seeing this have read 9 posts so behind may be an understatemetn.

Husband, Bob Maze, and daughter, Rochelle Maze, had police on the other line as they spoke to Maze in what would be her final hours

this struck me as weird. How would they know to have the cops on the line if they did not know anything wrong had happened yet?

I think this just means that Bob answered the phone and was talking to a frantic Rita, and Rochelle called the police from her phone as soon as she realized something was terribly wrong. That's the way I take it anyway.

 

[JanetElaine]

Just started seeing this have read 9 posts so behind may be an understatemetn.

Husband, Bob Maze, and daughter, Rochelle Maze, had police on the other line as they spoke to Maze in what would be her final hours

this struck me as weird. How would they know to have the cops on the line if they did not know anything wrong had happened yet?

But they did? Their wife/mom was on the phone with them in a panic that she was abducted.

If I was on the phone with someone who told me that, I'd be calling the cops on the other line too if I had that option.

 

[JanetElaine]

I dont know, i dont think they would need to do that to get into a trunk? If perp did it he had to come prepared with some insturment to get in.

I locked my keys in about two years ago and ended up having to break a window and let me tell ya that was no easy thing it took some time with crow bar!!

lol Yeah. Not easy (don't ask how I know ). Since the time the post you quoted was posted, it has come out that it was the police who smashed the window to get inside.

 

[Gardener1850]

Just started seeing this have read 9 posts so behind may be an understatemetn.

Husband, Bob Maze, and daughter, Rochelle Maze, had police on the other line as they spoke to Maze in what would be her final hours

this struck me as weird. How would they know to have the cops on the line if they did not know anything wrong had happened yet?

They had already contacted police to report her missing. About 2 hours after filing the missing persons report she called frantic, saying she had been abducted. They probably called the same police they had filed the report with earlier. Read the entire thread. You are in for quite a roller coaster. :rollercoaster: :hills:

 

[GigTu]

I think that we have all speculated the suicide angle is a possibility for at least a minute. However, I notice LE hasn't ruled out that she was killed by someone else either. They've had the gas station surveillance videos a long time now, and they are being very quiet about their findings. i 100% believe family will be the first to know if this is ruled a suicide. Yet, that has not been proclaimed. I think LE are onto something, and possibly someone. 1/2 me hopes that is the case because I feel just terrible that Rita's family would have to process a suicide. The other 1/2 of me is terrified to think there is a crazy person running loose out there so I don't want that to be the case. I wish we'd get some sort of verification on whether or not the public should actually be afraid. I know they said there is no threat to the public, but unless they have publicly verified Rita committed suicide I don't see how they can claim that.

 

[blue22]

I think that we have all speculated the suicide angle is a possibility for at least a minute. However, I notice LE hasn't ruled out that she was killed by someone else either. They've had the gas station surveillance videos a long time now, and they are being very quiet about their findings. i 100% believe family will be the first to know if this is ruled a suicide. Yet, that has not been proclaimed. I think LE are onto something, and possibly someone. 1/2 me hopes that is the case because I feel just terrible that Rita's family would have to process a suicide. The other 1/2 of me is terrified to think there is a crazy person running loose out there so I don't want that to be the case. I wish we'd get some sort of verification on whether or not the public should actually be afraid. I know they said there is no threat to the public, but unless they have publicly verified Rita committed suicide I don't see how they can claim that.

It's suicide or something personal. The FBI is very clear that the public is not in danger. Either they believe it's suicide, or they believe she was singularly, specifically targeted. All JMO.

 

[ninij9]

I dont know, i dont think they would need to do that to get into a trunk? If perp did it he had to come prepared with some insturment to get in.

I locked my keys in about two years ago and ended up having to break a window and let me tell ya that was no easy thing it took some time with crow bar!!

I thought I read that police said they busted window to gain access to unlock trunk.

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[GigTu]

It's suicide or something personal. The FBI is very clear that the public is not in danger. Either they believe it's suicide, or they believe she was singularly, specifically targeted. All JMO.

Does the FBI typically get involved in a suicide case?

 

[Gardener1850]

Does the FBI typically get involved in a suicide case?

The FBI got involved because she crossed state lines (MT, ID and WA all involved). I don't know if they would REMAIN involved if it turned out to be a suicide though. Good question.

 

[Kpossible]

I agree. The "no danger to the public" line is usually cop PC for a suicide or personal matter. I think it's mostly the family keeping the criminal investigation angle going.

If I had a guess, I'd say this sweet woman went through a lot of trouble to make her suicide look like a homocide. To spare her family the pain of it or to make sure that they recieved any life insurance pay out. A lot of them don't cover suicide.

Again this is all just my opinion. She may not have even had life insurance, who knows. My heart goes out to them though.

 

[eucalyptuz]

Does the FBI typically get involved in a suicide case?

I think someone mentioned on here or perhaps a similar thread that the FBI can come in to play when a crime crosses state lines...to me that makes sense if somehow they have to issue state-specific warrants and help with LE liaison across different jurisdictions...

 

[TTF14]

I think that we have all speculated the suicide angle is a possibility for at least a minute. However, I notice LE hasn't ruled out that she was killed by someone else either. They've had the gas station surveillance videos a long time now, and they are being very quiet about their findings. i 100% believe family will be the first to know if this is ruled a suicide. Yet, that has not been proclaimed. I think LE are onto something, and possibly someone. 1/2 me hopes that is the case because I feel just terrible that Rita's family would have to process a suicide. The other 1/2 of me is terrified to think there is a crazy person running loose out there so I don't want that to be the case. I wish we'd get some sort of verification on whether or not the public should actually be afraid. I know they said there is no threat to the public, but unless they have publicly verified Rita committed suicide I don't see how they can claim that.

I agree with you in sortof hoping this turns out to be a murder because I can't imagine how much the grief would be compounded if it turns out to be a suicide .

 

[eucalyptuz]

I agree with you in sortof hoping this turns out to be a murder because I can't imagine how much the grief would be compounded if it turns out to be a suicide .

Yes, it's a very conflicting set of feelings when weighing up the scenarios here. On one hand, if it is suicide, we can all be somewhat comforted by the confirmation that there is not a random psychopath kidnapping and killing folks at rest stops. On the other hand the family have to come to terms with a loved one's desperation and choices.

 

[blue22]

Does the FBI typically get involved in a suicide case?

The FBI took lead in the very beginning, because state lines were crossed. At that time, it was presumed to be abduction and homicide. I could be wrong, but I believe the FBI stays on the case until it's resolved. (Or they are no longer needed.) No official manner of death has been released. I think if the manner is ruled suicide, they will step away...unless perhaps there is a fraud situation involving suicide. (Which I personally don't think there will be.)

 

[Inthedetails]

I agree. The "no danger to the public" line is usually cop PC for a suicide or personal matter. I think it's mostly the family keeping the criminal investigation angle going.

If I had a guess, I'd say this sweet woman went through a lot of trouble to make her suicide look like a homocide. To spare her family the pain of it or to make sure that they recieved any life insurance pay out. A lot of them don't cover suicide.

Again this is all just my opinion. She may not have even had life insurance, who knows. My heart goes out to them though.

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[MelmothTheLost]

The FBI got involved because she crossed state lines (MT, ID and WA all involved).

And because it was, at least at first, treated as a kidnapping. Don't the FBI get involved in all kidnappings as a result of the Lindberg case?

 

[GigTu]

I agree. The "no danger to the public" line is usually cop PC for a suicide or personal matter. I think it's mostly the family keeping the criminal investigation angle going.

If I had a guess, I'd say this sweet woman went through a lot of trouble to make her suicide look like a homocide. To spare her family the pain of it or to make sure that they recieved any life insurance pay out. A lot of them don't cover suicide.

Again this is all just my opinion. She may not have even had life insurance, who knows. My heart goes out to them though.

I just find it hard to believe the FBI would keep a suicide case open so the family won't feel bad or so they can collect insurance money.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I just find it hard to believe the FBI would keep a suicide case open so the family won't feel bad or so they can collect insurance money.

This could be challenging because Rita herself is tall and it seems like tallness runs in the family. LE may not be sure whether Rita herself wore the hoodie or if a family member could have done it. Even with CCTV low-quality footage it may be difficult to tell whether it's a kidnapper or Rita herself if there's intentional obscuring of what the person looks like and others in the family could also fit the height and weight of whoever was shown on video. Taking it at face value that she was kidnapped, her saying 6' 5" would just be an approximation and it could just be someone around 6'.