GUILTY MT - Sherry Arnold, 43, Sidney, 7 Jan 2012 - #3

[HauntsForHope]

The bit about the post office came from a ws member...


Old 01-09-2012, 06:14 PM
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I graduated from high school with Sherry and I’d like to tell what I know. Yes, she left for her run at 6:30. She was seen by a witness at 6:40-6:45 running by the post office so she did make it out of the house in the clothes as described. Her husband and two teenage children were at home. She ran her usual route. She is very structured and followed a routine every day including days off. She is very athletic being a long time runner and swimmer and the school’s volleyball coach. The truck route is a road that is directs large trucks (semi’s etc.) so they do not congest up the main roads through town. It runs in front of house and businesses but has no stop signs or traffic signals. The speed limit on this road is 25 mph. Sherry’s shoe was found in a field next to a church. It would have been on her route, on the truck route. There would be probably no more than 100 vehicles total on any Sidney roads at this time of day. There is an irrigation ditch next to the field where the shoe was found but it contains no water and there is no snow on the ground today or the day she went missing. The population of Sidney is @ 5K but has increased a bit in the last couple years because of an oil boom in neighboring North Dakota. Sidney is 10 miles from the North Dakota border and @ 60 miles to the Canadian border. Bears and mountain lions are rarely seen here and there is no evidence of an animal attack in the area where her shoe was found. Tracking dogs were brought in but did not go beyond the shoe. Speculation is that she was taken in a vehicle because of the dog’s response. It was still dark at 6:30 am. She did not take her phone with her. Her husband first called authorities around 9am when Sherry did not return. By 11:30 they had organized the first search party. Thank you for reading this and taking an interest in Sherry. We are desperate to find her.

 

[Zuckerschnecke]

All we know officially is that an anonymous tip to LE led their arrest.

I still think it has to do with them not showing up somewhere that morning, like a job.

My other thoughts are:
Someone overheard them;
they were caught trying to clean up the truck or maybe sell it;
they have something of hers in their possession;
someone saw them on the side of the road and got a plate (maybe this is where they are getting the description of a farmstead/line of trees from.

Lord knows what else I'll come up with.

 

[NEMT]

An extradition hearing is to be held at 3:30 Central today.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Where are you getting this info about truckers and oil drillers using meth?? It seems pretty insensitive to paint everyone with that broad brush of yours. My husband, while in college, worked one week on, one week off on a drilling rig in the beautiful ocean. He's been an oil man for 30 years. Never used meth. Don't know anyone who is.

I believe, when you say he worked one week on, one week off, what that means is that he worked one week of 12 hour shifts, then had a week off during which he could leave the rig and come back to shore.

Not that he worked for 168 straight hours with no time to sleep at all! It's a heavy work schedule, for sure, but one that a person in good physical condition can do without pharmaceutical assistance.

 

[liltexans]

Waters and Spell have been approved for court appointed attorneys for their hearings this afternoon. On the applications, both men say they are unemployed. Waters wrote that he works in construction when employed, and the only asset he listed was a 1992 Ford Explorer. Spell wrote that he performs "labor" when employed, and the only asset he listed was $11 in cash.
Court documents indicate Waters and Spell are scheduled to appear in court in Sidney on the aggravated kidnapping charges on Jan. 24 before Judge Greg Mohr.


Read more: http://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...13f-11e1-a992-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1jkW0K2tA

 

[Elley Mae]

An extradition hearing is to be held at 3:30 Central today.

Thanks!

Welcome to WS:seeya:

 

[Elley Mae]

1992 Ford Explorer would be the vehicle then, I would think

 

[liltexans]

Lester Vann Waters Jr., 47, and Michael Keith Spell, 22, are scheduled to appear at extradition hearings at the Williams County Courthouse before Northwest District Judge Josh Rustad.

Read more: http://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...13f-11e1-a992-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1jkWemPuY

 

[GrainneDhu]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-mo...i-joins-search/story?id=15337011#.TxXPNIH0S9I

Thanks! So much for my memory, the post office was not mentioned at all.

 

[HauntsForHope]

Seems to me the general tone coming out of Sidney is very dark. The recent oil boom has overloaded the area and the need for increased LE was made known some time ago. Especially regarding the 45 RSO's and drug running through the area to Canada. 6:30 on a Saturday morning is just the end of a long Friday night to some guys.... when he said 'they own the night' imo it was the meth/speed/cocaine crowd he was referring to.

 

[HauntsForHope]

Thanks! So much for my memory, the post office was not mentioned at all.

It was only mentioned once, by the ws member. Since it couldn't be verified, its been considered rumor, so far.

 

[audie]

Thought I'd share this after reading Boilly Boilly's post.
When I see stories suggesting that dogs stop tracking because the victim was possibly put in a vehicle, I always remember this story. Little Alie was kidnapped from an Englewood, Colorado yard back in 1993. Yogi the bloodhound tracked her all the way to the foothills. Many miles and she was in a car. I guess Yogi wore out, so LE took over the search up that canyon, SW of Denver, and eventually found her dead down an embankment. I'm only 50/50 on scent dogs. Some are good and some are not. But Yogi is my all time favorite. Read this story.

http://www.alie.org/generic.html

 

[4UIhelp]

I would like to add to this, I wonder if she was on her jog at that end of town and could have seen a drug exchange and they saw her and took her. Also my thought is if they did hit her it was from behind,she had her earbuds in and did not see them comeing,as if they were driveing towards her she would have tried to get out of the way.....anyway I am not far from this area and am very spooked by all. I have met many people that have come with this Boom and have become more leary of some, then again I have met some that are hard workers and are just trying to make money that there home economy did not have. So too judge oil field workers , I just cant. You may have talked about this already, but it bothers me..........

 

[Elley Mae]

Thought I'd share this after reading Boilly Boilly's post.
When I see stories suggesting that dogs stop tracking because the victim was possibly put in a vehicle, I always remember this story. Little Alie was kidnapped from an Englewood, Colorado yard back in 1993. Yogi the bloodhound tracked her all the way to the foothills. Many miles and she was in a car. I guess Yogi wore out, so LE took over the search up that canyon, SW of Denver, and eventually found her dead down an embankment. I'm only 50/50 on scent dogs. Some are good and some are not. But Yogi is my all time favorite. Read this story.

http://www.alie.org/generic.html

All of those wrinkles and folds of skin on the bloodhounds face are like sponges, iirc and they lock on to a scent and won't stop.

if it's the story I heard and the same bloodhound the handler stopped the dog for fear of hydration and the child was found the next day not far like you said. Amazing animals!

 

[Elley Mae]

I would like to add to this, I wonder if she was on her jog at that end of town and could have seen a drug exchange and they saw her and took her. Also my thought is if they did hit her it was from behind,she had her earbuds in and did not see them comeing,as if they were driveing towards her she would have tried to get out of the way.....anyway I am not far from this area and am very spooked by all. I have met many people that have come with this Boom and have become more leary of some, then again I have met some that are hard workers and are just trying to make money that there home economy did not have. So too judge oil field workers , I just cant. You may have talked about this already, but it bothers me..........

Welcome! It is great to have someone local here.

:seeya:

 

[Noway]

The bit about the post office came from a ws member...


Old 01-09-2012, 06:14 PM
Boilly Boilly is offline
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I graduated from high school with Sherry and I’d like to tell what I know. Yes, she left for her run at 6:30. She was seen by a witness at 6:40-6:45 running by the post office so she did make it out of the house in the clothes as described. Her husband and two teenage children were at home. She ran her usual route. She is very structured and followed a routine every day including days off. She is very athletic being a long time runner and swimmer and the school’s volleyball coach. The truck route is a road that is directs large trucks (semi’s etc.) so they do not congest up the main roads through town. It runs in front of house and businesses but has no stop signs or traffic signals. The speed limit on this road is 25 mph. Sherry’s shoe was found in a field next to a church. It would have been on her route, on the truck route. There would be probably no more than 100 vehicles total on any Sidney roads at this time of day. There is an irrigation ditch next to the field where the shoe was found but it contains no water and there is no snow on the ground today or the day she went missing. The population of Sidney is @ 5K but has increased a bit in the last couple years because of an oil boom in neighboring North Dakota. Sidney is 10 miles from the North Dakota border and @ 60 miles to the Canadian border. Bears and mountain lions are rarely seen here and there is no evidence of an animal attack in the area where her shoe was found. Tracking dogs were brought in but did not go beyond the shoe. Speculation is that she was taken in a vehicle because of the dog’s response. It was still dark at 6:30 am. She did not take her phone with her. Her husband first called authorities around 9am when Sherry did not return. By 11:30 they had organized the first search party. Thank you for reading this and taking an interest in Sherry. We are desperate to find her.

The post office is not far from where her shoe was found (and is between her house and the place the shoe was found), so it is possible that Boilly was accurate in saying the witness saw her by the post office.

 

[liltexans]

I would like to add to this, I wonder if she was on her jog at that end of town and could have seen a drug exchange and they saw her and took her. Also my thought is if they did hit her it was from behind,she had her earbuds in and did not see them comeing,as if they were driveing towards her she would have tried to get out of the way.....anyway I am not far from this area and am very spooked by all. I have met many people that have come with this Boom and have become more leary of some, then again I have met some that are hard workers and are just trying to make money that there home economy did not have. So too judge oil field workers , I just cant. You may have talked about this already, but it bothers me..........

:wagon:


Thanks for joining us here and for your local insight! Those are good ideas.

 

[Kelly Faraday]

Thought I'd share this after reading Boilly Boilly's post.
When I see stories suggesting that dogs stop tracking because the victim was possibly put in a vehicle, I always remember this story. Little Alie was kidnapped from an Englewood, Colorado yard back in 1993. Yogi the bloodhound tracked her all the way to the foothills. Many miles and she was in a car. I guess Yogi wore out, so LE took over the search up that canyon, SW of Denver, and eventually found her dead down an embankment. I'm only 50/50 on scent dogs. Some are good and some are not. But Yogi is my all time favorite. Read this story.

http://www.alie.org/generic.html

I saw that and have never for gotten Yogi. If I recall correctly, he was just a very short distance from the little girl's body when they had to stop him for the day. The narrator (it may have been on Unsolved Mysteries) explained that once a good tracking dog is on the scent he/she will *literally* work the scent until they drop. Again, it's been a while ago, but I think Yogi had also tracked the scent to a neighbor's apartment. Thanks for remembering him. These precious animals are nothing short of Angels on this earth and deserve our gratitude and respect for the ways they help mankind.

K.

 

[Amster]

Waters and Spell have been approved for court appointed attorneys for their hearings this afternoon. On the applications, both men say they are unemployed. Waters wrote that he works in construction when employed, and the only asset he listed was a 1992 Ford Explorer. Spell wrote that he performs "labor" when employed, and the only asset he listed was $11 in cash.
Court documents indicate Waters and Spell are scheduled to appear in court in Sidney on the aggravated kidnapping charges on Jan. 24 before Judge Greg Mohr.


Read more: http://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...13f-11e1-a992-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1jkW0K2tA

Thank you....hopefully, the bashing of oil workers can be put to rest, now. The mayor should apologize.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-mo...iminal-records/story?id=15377707#.TxXr3oH0S9I

Records also show that Waters has used about a dozen aliases and has been charged with giving police a false name when arrested.

I wonder what name he gave them when arrested.