Multiple nights GA is in the Boggy Creek area.

[Coley]

I'm sorry yall. 7 is coming to soon. :bedtime: Let me sleep on things. I'll be back in the am.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

But if you have e-pass you can scoot on through? Or if you were like KC you would go through and make pops pay for it when they send it to him?

Yes, you just go through that e-pass lane. I keep an e-pass because I am there so much, but you can also bag the e-pass and pay in cash if you want. You just go through the e-pass lane and it records your pass. Each pass is registered to a particular car, but I do know people change them around even though they are not supposed to.

 

[Coley]

Yes, you just go through that e-pass lane. I keep an e-pass because I am there so much, but you can also bag the e-pass and pay in cash if you want. You just go through the e-pass lane and it records your pass. Each pass is registered to a particular car, but I do know people change them around even though they are not supposed to.

So they don't "ticket" people for changing them out?

 

[SuziQ]

From the thread Coley posted:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2599883&postcount=34

09-01-2008, 03:25 PM
Nicki077

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I heard it as "Boggy Creek" anyway no links are supposed to be posted per rules so here is the relevant info from the first one:

*Searching area by the airport - Boggy Creek area
*Where RT 417 goes across there was a cop car so they went to another area
*When they went back there were more vehicles - 2 CSI cars, 2 Sheriffs cars and an unmarked Police car
*They were removing items that they had dug up (not sure how she knows this, she didn't elaborate) placing items in bags, wearing blue rubber gloves.
*A police officer approached them and told them it was because of a stolen Jet Ski
*She said she didn't believe them because she could see the Jet Ski and there was an undisturbed huge spider web from a tree to the ski
*She saw a towel (or something that looked like a towel) that they were placing something on

There is absolutely no way we can know if this had anything to do with little Caylee or not. I did also hear in a follow up that the cadaver dogs did indicate in the area when they went back (these were not LE dogs, but personal ones). Lets say we believe this and there was in fact a dead body there. How can we know for sure it has anything to do with Caylee until we hear something official? I just thought it was worth mentioning since we are discussing all possibilities. Also we don't know how reliable this info is until we hear something officially.

I am going to try to upload an image of the area:

http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/30...600x600Q85.jpg

 

[SuziQ]

I'm bailing out too. Need to be up early to shop and clean. Night!

 

[Coley]

Night. Ok I swear, I'm going to bed. See everyone tomorrow hopefully. I'll be back to hash it out.

 

[Lisa-Rachelle]

Havent read through all the replies...

My husband's first thought was, "maybe that's just his place...somewhere to go to clear his head. With a wife like that (Cindy) I'd want to get out, too."

So, this could be completely legit. When I was married the 1st time, I used to drive up to signal mountain (secluded, no houses) and sit until 2 or 3am.

Then again, maybe the A's KNOW where Caylee's body is, but don't want to go walking around the woods and stumble on her corpse. That would be worse than an eternity in flames (at least, in my mind).

 

[DotsEyes]

Okay, I love trying to piece things together, so I have done the following with regard to Boggy Creek Road. Maybe this will help.

GA's Car= GA, CA's car=CA

July 5 -GA

5:21:46p On LV
5:32:45p M lane BC

July 18 -GA

3:19:01p On. Lee Vista
3:27:48p Off. Boogy Creek.
5:18:03p On. BC.
5:27:07p Off. LV

July 22 -CA.

11:42:37a On.LV
11:51:29a Off. BC
12:58:11p On BC
1:07:08p Off. LV

July 26 -GA

7:35:39p On. LV.
7:44:02p Off. BC

July 27-GA

12:25:14a On. BC
12:33:47a Off. LV

July 28-GA

12:51:32p On. LV
12:59:21p Off BC
8:09:38p On. BC
8:18:15p Off. LV

There is nothing for GA between 6/7 and 6/29
There is nothing for CA between 6/15 and 6/26

So what does it mean?

 

[Leila]

GLad I"m listening to the bond hearing again, I can answer this accurately!

Ok, KC got home from being with the detectives at around 7am, took a shower, made a myspace with CA then detectives picked her back up around noon. KC was arrested between 4 and 5 pm.

KC's parents learned of her arrest through the media.

So,

7am - KC home from giving detectives a tour of Orlando

10 am - making myspace with CA

12 pm - gone with detectives to Universal

4-5 pm - arrested first time

This is July 16th, the day after retrieving the car from the impound yard and Cindy tracking down Casey and bringing her home (evening of July 15th).

There's 5 hours between Casey getting home at 7:00am and leaving again with the detectives at noon. I think that sometime during that 5-hour time frame, Casey revealed more to her parents and Lee than they've told publicly.

Two days later, on July 18th, George and Cindy had their first interview with a local news media. In that interview, there were no grieving grandparents pleading for their granddaughter's safe return from her kidnapper. Instead, George and Cindy laid the groundwork for Casey's defense, with lengthy descriptions of Casey using a shovel to clear bamboo shoots, how they kept the shed locked and pool ladder away from the pool when not in use. None of this meant anything to readers at that time, but later, when we learned Casey borrowed a shovel, and we learned about the shed break-in, and the possibility that Caylee drowned, it all came together.

Sometime between Cindy yelling, "It smells like a dead body in the @%$# car" on July 15th, and that interview on July 18th, George, Cindy, and Lee, did a major course change in direction. They went from not knowing what happened to a circle the wagons cover-up. I think they know more, and it may be a case of George knowing more than Cindy and Lee.

 

[roxyray]

I am wracking my brain for the Boggy Creek connections. TES and LE are interested. Ga swings by the area. Can't remember what day or where GA was spotted staring off into a field. But I'm pretty sure it was where TES was last going to search. Was that Boggy Creek? And I might be just really tired, but I could swear that the car switcharoo happened under the overpass at Boggy Creek. Also, Baez wanted to secret field trips with Casey. Maybe Casey has been sending "clues" out to her peeps about Boggy Creek and they want to take her there. Unfortunately, she was probably yanking their chain.

Not sure if this helps you but GA was spotted on Oct. 30 starring off into the woods. I know for sure that is the date and I think it was that area. The story came out to the public shortly before TES returned. The date stands out in my mind simply because I thought about Caylee alot on the 30th, wondering what she would have been for Halloween.

 

[Whisperer]

George stopped and was looking at the woods on Hoffner Rd. IIRC it is near Underhill.

 

[DotsEyes]

Is Boggy Creek Road a business, residential, commercial, shopping area? What is it like?

Is this where the 2 guys saw the lady with the shovel and the man pretending to fish? That area looked pretty gooey to me.

Is this the area where the woman saw what she thought was her friend's car and a young woman jogging nearby? (she descrived it as an unusual place to see someone out for a run, IIRC)

 

[debs]

I am wracking my brain for the Boggy Creek connections. TES and LE are interested. Ga swings by the area. Can't remember what day or where GA was spotted staring off into a field. But I'm pretty sure it was where TES was last going to search. Was that Boggy Creek? And I might be just really tired, but I could swear that the car switcharoo happened under the overpass at Boggy Creek. Also, Baez wanted to secret field trips with Casey. Maybe Casey has been sending "clues" out to her peeps about Boggy Creek and they want to take her there. Unfortunately, she was probably yanking their chain.

George wasn't standing off looking into nothingness until right before the last TES search. At the time, he was being told he couldn't set up his board or tents at certain local businesses because of the drama that it drew.

 

[Macushla]

I haven't finished reading this thread but thought I would toss this into the mix. I live in the Orlando area and if I am going somewhere and I want to be on time, get there quickly, etc. I take the nearest roads - and they are always toll roads. However, on the way back from where ever I was or if I am not in a hurry, I take surface roads and don't pay any tolls. If you looked at my toll record you would swear I went somewhere and was teleported back to my house because there weren't any records of my return trip You can navigate around the Orlando area without going on toll roads. People who live in the area do this all the time. So when you are looking at toll records you have to take this into account. Avoiding tolls may make the drive longer, but people do it.

 

[Whyamisointerested]

I haven't finished reading this thread but thought I would toss this into the mix. I live in the Orlando area and if I am going somewhere and I want to be on time, get there quickly, etc. I take the nearest roads - and they are always toll roads. However, on the way back from where ever I was or if I am not in a hurry, I take surface roads and don't pay any tolls. If you looked at my toll record you would swear I went somewhere and was teleported back to my house because there weren't any records of my return trip You can navigate around the Orlando area without going on toll roads. People who live in the area do this all the time. So when you are looking at toll records you have to take this into account. Avoiding tolls may make the drive longer, but people do it.

But if you have an epass why not just go the quickest way home? Especially when your daughter has just been put in jail,And your grandaughter is missing? I wouldn't think that we want to be taking the "long" way home. Do you not have an epass?

 

[SuziQ]

Not sure if this helps you but GA was spotted on Oct. 30 starring off into the woods. I know for sure that is the date and I think it was that area. The story came out to the public shortly before TES returned. The date stands out in my mind simply because I thought about Caylee alot on the 30th, wondering what she would have been for Halloween.

Thank you, that does help alot.

 

[NJ Lawyer]

This is July 16th, the day after retrieving the car from the impound yard and Cindy tracking down Casey and bringing her home (evening of July 15th).

There's 5 hours between Casey getting home at 7:00am and leaving again with the detectives at noon. I think that sometime during that 5-hour time frame, Casey revealed more to her parents and Lee than they've told publicly.

Two days later, on July 18th, George and Cindy had their first interview with a local news media. In that interview, there were no grieving grandparents pleading for their granddaughter's safe return from her kidnapper. Instead, George and Cindy laid the groundwork for Casey's defense, with lengthy descriptions of Casey using a shovel to clear bamboo shoots, how they kept the shed locked and pool ladder away from the pool when not in use. None of this meant anything to readers at that time, but later, when we learned Casey borrowed a shovel, and we learned about the shed break-in, and the possibility that Caylee drowned, it all came together.

Sometime between Cindy yelling, "It smells like a dead body in the @%$# car" on July 15th, and that interview on July 18th, George, Cindy, and Lee, did a major course change in direction. They went from not knowing what happened to a circle the wagons cover-up. I think they know more, and it may be a case of George knowing more than Cindy and Lee.

Great post. I totally agree with this. Early on, I expressed my thought that these folks got together, grieved in privacy for the Caylee they could never get back and then agreed (even without having to orally state their pact) that nothing would be gained by Casey going to jail so their later statements and actions are with one goal in mind: keep Casey out of prison for life. Does it seem odd that Cindy and even George are teary-eyed as they talk about how they think Caylee is alive? No. Their tears are for the granddaughter they know they lost and maybe even tears for having to carry on this charade in order to keep their daughter out of prison. The whole thing is making them emotional (understandably) but they are definitely carrying on with their efforts to keep Casey out of jail and I'm not surprised their efforts are draining and emotional.

 

[Anais]

Sounds like he's been doing his own "investigative" work. Once a cop, always a cop. I truly believe he wants all this to end.

IMO LE has been keeping tabs on all of the A's and surely knows about these visits as well as just about most of the A's other moves. However I agree with you that GA does want all of this to come to an end. I also think that GA knows in his heart that his little Caylee is dead. I also think that he wants very much to give her a proper & loving burial and have peace of mind and closure.

 

[Hope for the Best]

But if you have an epass why not just go the quickest way home? Especially when your daughter has just been put in jail,And your grandaughter is missing? I wouldn't think that we want to be taking the "long" way home. Do you not have an epass?

Epass doesn't make the toll roads free. You still have a bill at the end of the month. I live in Orlando, too, and where I live, there really aren't too many toll roads near me going to where I need to go, so I don't take them that often. But the other day, I took them, and my whole trip cost me $6.00 one way. Granted, I was going a bit further than Boggy Creek to Lee Vista, but still. That's alot of money! If the Anthonys were having money troubles, I could see them cutting out return trips on the expressway as a money saving venture. I don't know if that is what they were doing, but I just wanted to back up the maybe they don't take the same route home theory, because I agree.

Also, I just wanted to add that there are industrial businesses on Boggy Creek Road, closer to where the expressway is. And that is also near where you would get off to go to Sand Lake Road, which could take you to all sorts of businesses. And Lee Vista is probably where he gets off to go home. So, its hard to say what he was doing here. The Boggy Creek to Lee Vista could just be the stretch he gets on the expressway for in his journey home from work or something.

 

[Whyamisointerested]

Epass doesn't make the toll roads free. You still have a bill at the end of the month. I live in Orlando, too, and where I live, there really aren't too many toll roads near me going to where I need to go, so I don't take them that often. But the other day, I took them, and my whole trip cost me $6.00 one way. Granted, I was going a bit further than Boggy Creek to Lee Vista, but still. That's alot of money! If the Anthonys were having money troubles, I could see them cutting out return trips on the expressway as a money saving venture. I don't know if that is what they were doing, but I just wanted to back up the maybe they don't take the same route home theory, because I agree.

Also, I just wanted to add that there are industrial businesses on Boggy Creek Road, closer to where the expressway is. And that is also near where you would get off to go to Sand Lake Road, which could take you to all sorts of businesses. And Lee Vista is probably where he gets off to go home. So, its hard to say what he was doing here. The Boggy Creek to Lee Vista could just be the stretch he gets on the expressway for in his journey home from work or something.

I see.I was under the impression that you paid for the epass, ( maybe monthly) for unlimited use. So everyone gets an epass and you pay depending upon where you go?$5,here$6here etc.. Then that changes things totally and I agree then he would maybe take different routes.