My BDI Theory! Seems pretty open/close to me

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This is my theory on what happened that night/period leading up to that night. I know we all still have so many questions, but it seems like too much makes sense. EVERYTHING BELOW IS MY THEORY BASED ON EVIDENCE I HAVE SEEN AND IS IN NO WAY AN ACCUSATION OR STATEMENT OF FACT AGAINST ANY PARTIES RELATED TO THE CASE. I AM I STATING THE BELOW AS FACT. Happy to have a friendly debate in the comments to let me know where I may be missing something.

I think what people forget to address when stating that the family couldn't have been involved in this is the evidence of SA. More than likely (according to autopsy and experts,) she was being abused before that night, and (in my opinion) would more than likely have been done by either John or by Burke. I'm a firm believer in BDI (the impact to the head at the very least) and that there was a cover up not because the initial hit was an accident, but because they knew calling the police would show that she had been being abused prior to the nights event.

This is where we all have to guess about the extent of the cover up and who committed which act. If it was John that was abusing her, he would have had motive to help stage the cover up to hide the fact that he had been doing that previously. This also can be why the family continuously denies the findings of SA, even though most experts agree that it was taking place. Patsy may not have even known, but again, this is theory and debatable.

The other option is what I believe is the most likely scenario, so stay with me. (Again, this is just my theory based on all the evidence I have seen over the years!) I theorize that Burke was a troubled child and was responsible for the previous SA's, though he may not have even known the extent of his actions or had any criminal intent behind them. He was (reportedly) known to have a temper; and (reportedly) had smeared feces on her Christmas gifts that year. I theorize that the parents knew this was taking place and were trying to get him help through ongoing psychiatric visits while keeping it quiet to avoid tarnishing their image in the community. We can all speculate on what lead to the head blow (pineapple, half unwrapped Christmas gifts in the wine cellar, etc) as well as who committed the SA that night, but I theorize that it occurred while the family was packing for MI after the party. I do not believe they went to sleep as Patsy had her hair and makeup done, as well as the same clothing from the night before. When they realized what Burke had done, you can imagine the predicament they would be placed in. If it were merely an accident, they probably would have just called 9-11. But because of the SA's, questions about its origins would undoubtably be brought up and the family would be reduced to nothing, regardless of who was responsible. If Burke was responsible for the head blow and the SA that night, what's the first thing they would do after staging the kidnapping? Thats right, call their lawyers to seal his medical and psychiatric records from ever becoming public or even seen by police during the investigation. After all, the family deserves some "island of privacy." Why? Well, his records would obviously tell the story, as well as show the parent's knowledge of what may have been going on.

Now here is where it all ties together. In 1998, a Grand Jury issued true bills to indict the Ramsey's for crimes related to the staging of the scene and putting Jonbenet in an unsafe environment resulting in death... This implies that the GJ had enough probable cause to charge the family not for the murder, but for covering up for someone and knowing that she may not have been entirely safe in the home. Could Burke's medical records have been subpoenaed and presented as evidence to the GJ, and is that the evidence that still remains sealed to the public?

Then, why would the GJ vote to indict, but the DA decide not to move forward? Well, I theorize for two reasons. The first, they may not have had enough evidence to get a conviction without unarguable proof on who committed which act that night. After all, the Ramsey's attorneys were absolute STUDS. Secondly, I theorize that the DA/BPD were aware of what likely had happened. However, given Burke's age, he could not have been criminally prosecuted. They could, however, prosecute the family for the above indictments by the GJ and in their eyes, ruin the lives of two outstanding (and rich/influential) Boulder citizens who were forced to make an impossible decision in the moment.

Again, this is all theory, but it seems to tie everything together almost too perfectly. (I even left out a lot more, but happy to have a friendly debate in the comments!)

As I have heard from many other in the past and have now begun to steal - and use as my own... "I don't believe in coincidences."
 
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Again, this is all theory, but it seems to tie everything together almost too perfectly. (I even left out a lot more, but happy to have a friendly debate in the comments!)
There's no explanation for the DNA in this theory.
 
I'm lost, BDI as an acronym is used for the Battelle Developmental Inventory early childhood evaluation test. what are you meaning by it?

The use of acronyms on this site for everything just makes me feel like I'm missing out on understanding like 90% of the comments here.
 
Ah, glad you made it FergusMcDuck!

Based on your reply, I HAVE to assume you’re new to this case

I have been studying the case for years.

- likely from the recent Netflix documentary

Haven't seen it yet.

and therefore haven’t done your own research into the DNA.

I've read all the documents from the Bode labs, including test results and email conversations, and various expert opinions.

Below is a great Reddit thread written by an expert with everything cited.

Already read it, long ago.

It also includes tons of amazing articles related to the DNA and how it’s evolved into the biased and misrepresented “evidence” that it is today. Let me know your thoughts!

Sure. The article is an exercise in verbosity about irrelevant things while quickly glossing over and not disagreeing with the main thrust of the DNA argument - that UM1, a profile unrelated to any Ramsey was found mixed with JonBenet's blood in her underwear. The DNA came from a bodily fluid (yes, amylase exists in other fluids than saliva, but saliva is where it has the highest concentration) and (as the article admits) didn't exist in the areas surrounding the blood stain. As the article also admits, the idea of a factory worker depositing the DNA is unlikely. This profile was entered into CODIS in 2003.

More importantly, the new testing of touch DNA found a profile matching UM1 on the waistband of JonBenet's longjohns, a different garment that had never been worn together with the (brand new) underwear before that night - which takes the factory worker theory from unlikely to impossible.

Some points are well made - yes, genetic genaology is not something that can just be done with what they have, but John Ramsey has asked for additional testing of additional objects. Me, I'd go for the cigarette butts, where if DNA is found it would not be a mix with JonBenet.

What the article doesn't do is explain the DNA. The same profile present on two separate garments of different ages and origin, never before combined, from separate sources, in places consistent with SA (which we know occurred that night), not matched to anyone in the family or their friends - I don't see how any theory can be comprehensive without explaining this.
 
I have been studying the case for years.



Haven't seen it yet.



I've read all the documents from the Bode labs, including test results and email conversations, and various expert opinions.



Already read it, long ago.



Sure. The article is an exercise in verbosity about irrelevant things while quickly glossing over and not disagreeing with the main thrust of the DNA argument - that UM1, a profile unrelated to any Ramsey was found mixed with JonBenet's blood in her underwear. The DNA came from a bodily fluid (yes, amylase exists in other fluids than saliva, but saliva is where it has the highest concentration) and (as the article admits) didn't exist in the areas surrounding the blood stain. As the article also admits, the idea of a factory worker depositing the DNA is unlikely. This profile was entered into CODIS in 2003.

More importantly, the new testing of touch DNA found a profile matching UM1 on the waistband of JonBenet's longjohns, a different garment that had never been worn together with the (brand new) underwear before that night - which takes the factory worker theory from unlikely to impossible.

Some points are well made - yes, genetic genaology is not something that can just be done with what they have, but John Ramsey has asked for additional testing of additional objects. Me, I'd go for the cigarette butts, where if DNA is found it would not be a mix with JonBenet.

What the article doesn't do is explain the DNA. The same profile present on two separate garments of different ages and origin, never before combined, from separate sources, in places consistent with SA (which we know occurred that night), not matched to anyone in the family or their friends - I don't see how any theory can be comprehensive without explaining this.
I agree with most of your points, and I understand your reasoning.

However, it's not true that the differing DNA samples on JB was concluded to be from the same subject. They cannot EXCLUDE the same person, but they are all such small samples that you can't even get close to making that conclusion. According to James Kolar who was previously the lead investigator on the case, they found DNA from six (6) unknown subjects (5 men, 1 woman.) Were all six unknown subjects involved in the crime? Just a few of them? Just one? Which one? If it was only one of them, how did five other subjects get their trace DNA on her?

Look up the case of Lukis Anderson. He was charged for murder due to trace DNA being found UNDERNEATH the victims fingernails. It was later found that he was unconscious in the hospital at the time of the crime.

The DNA is a rabbit hole for IDI theorists that can and (I don't believe) will be explained. You mentioned the brand new bloomies she was wearing. Why did the intruder re-dress her? Are we to disregard the fibers matching what John was wearing that night that were also inside her underwear, as well as underneath the tape? What if John staged parts of the scene and wore gloves to avoid fingerprints... is there any chance any "unknown male subjects" had used or touched those same gloves in their entire history? Should we disregard Patsy's jacket fibers from that night found underneath the tape and on the garrote? Why did they refuse to give their clothing to law enforcement for months following? JB was wearing the same shirt she had worn to the party that night, is there any chance she had been in contact with someone during those hours of playing with others?

Again, it seems to me that the trace DNA is the Ramsey's only "reasonable doubt" in this case and will be the reason Jonbenet's murder is never "officially solved," and why I theorize that John continues to push it so hard. It's my opinion that he didn't want to help the investigation at all in the months following the crime, but now he's pushing more DNA testing 30 years later.

Again, I understand your thinking. This case is a mystery to us all and why we are here to discuss! However, I do believe it entirely unfair to ignore all other evidence and by claiming that the DNA points heavily to an intruder in the home is disingenuous.
 
I have been studying the case for years.



Haven't seen it yet.



I've read all the documents from the Bode labs, including test results and email conversations, and various expert opinions.



Already read it, long ago.



Sure. The article is an exercise in verbosity about irrelevant things while quickly glossing over and not disagreeing with the main thrust of the DNA argument - that UM1, a profile unrelated to any Ramsey was found mixed with JonBenet's blood in her underwear. The DNA came from a bodily fluid (yes, amylase exists in other fluids than saliva, but saliva is where it has the highest concentration) and (as the article admits) didn't exist in the areas surrounding the blood stain. As the article also admits, the idea of a factory worker depositing the DNA is unlikely. This profile was entered into CODIS in 2003.

More importantly, the new testing of touch DNA found a profile matching UM1 on the waistband of JonBenet's longjohns, a different garment that had never been worn together with the (brand new) underwear before that night - which takes the factory worker theory from unlikely to impossible.

Some points are well made - yes, genetic genaology is not something that can just be done with what they have, but John Ramsey has asked for additional testing of additional objects. Me, I'd go for the cigarette butts, where if DNA is found it would not be a mix with JonBenet.

What the article doesn't do is explain the DNA. The same profile present on two separate garments of different ages and origin, never before combined, from separate sources, in places consistent with SA (which we know occurred that night), not matched to anyone in the family or their friends - I don't see how any theory can be comprehensive without explaining this.
The cigarette butts were not found on the Ramsey's property at all....they were found in the back ally and police have no idea how long they had been there.

Seems to me that an intruder who was smart and stealth enough , taking care that he entered and left the residence leaving no discernible DNA or finger prints would then be dumb enough to leave a small pile of cigarette butts in the ally with his DNA all over them.
 
I agree with most of your points, and I understand your reasoning.

However, it's not true that the differing DNA samples on JB was concluded to be from the same subject. They cannot EXCLUDE the same person, but they are all such small samples that you can't even get close to making that conclusion.

Unless you have the whole genome tested, there is never a 100% match. But alleles corresponding over every single tested locus, and excepting two faint alleles, no deviation whatsoever? That is a match.

A redditor named JennC1544 put together this excellent chatt based on the data (1,2) in the Bode report:

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Even the left side DNA, while not complete enough to make a clear match, fully corresponds with UM1.

According to James Kolar who was previously the lead investigator on the case, they found DNA from six (6) unknown subjects (5 men, 1 woman.) Were all six unknown subjects involved in the crime? Just a few of them? Just one? Which one? If it was only one of them, how did five other subjects get their trace DNA on her?

Kolar gets to this number by counting all the fingernail samples as separate - since there were too few loci tested to make a.concöosive match. He doesn't say if what was found excludes UM1 (it doesn't) or if they weren't consistent with eachother (they were). He does admit that the female profile doesn't exclude JonBenet.

Which leaves us again with two profiles, JonBenet and UM1.

There was indeed another profile found on the ligature. Obviously this should also be subject to further testing against suspects, though the connection to the crime isn't as obvious as UM1 - still, it could lead to the killer.

Look up the case of Lukis Anderson. He was charged for murder due to trace DNA being found UNDERNEATH the victims fingernails. It was later found that he was unconscious in the hospital at the time of the crime.

Which is why the strength of UM1 is that it was found in multiple places from multiple sources.

The DNA is a rabbit hole for IDI theorists that can and (I don't believe) will be explained. You mentioned the brand new bloomies she was wearing. Why did the intruder re-dress her?

There's no evidence he did. Since urine stains show us she died wearing those underwear, she most likely put them on herself, since she picked her whole ensemble that day and she wore that same ensemble to bed (with trousers exchanged for longjohns) AND that is what she was found dead in.
Are we to disregard the fibers matching what John was wearing that night that were also inside her underwear, as well as underneath the tape?

Considering the only place that was mentioned was the 2000 interviews (unlike Patsy's jacket) and that it is contradicted by other sources?

The police reported that they had been unable to find a match for the fibers discovered on JonBenét’s labia and on her inner thighs. The fibers did not match any clothes belonging to John or Patsy. The police were stumped. - Schiller, "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town"

I'd say it was to get a rise out of John -which worked - and cause him to slip up - which didn't.

And in the interview nothing is said about the shirt fibers matching what was under the tape. Schiller also specifies that the tape fibers were different from the fibers in her genitalia.

What if John staged parts of the scene and wore gloves to avoid fingerprints... is there any chance any "unknown male subjects" had used or touched those same gloves in their entire history?

So he drooled on the gloves as well, and that drool ended up in a blood drop in JonBenet's underwear? Secondary transfer is one thing, but UM1 isn't touch DNA.

There were brown cotton fibers found that were never sourced. Smit speculated (and based on questions asked of the Ramseys, so did other police) that they were from work gloves. But the fibers weren't found with the DNA, and the DNA wjas (so far) only been found in areas consistent with SA.

Should we disregard Patsy's jacket fibers from that night found underneath the tape and on the garrote?

It's fibers from the same type of material, not necessarily her jacket. Red acrylic fibers. I have my own theory about their origin, but the question is, why did Patsy put on her jacket when staging the crime?

Why did they refuse to give their clothing to law enforcement for months following?

When were they asked? They sent clothes when asked in December 1997. Were they asked before that?

JB was wearing the same shirt she had worn to the party that night, is there any chance she had been in contact with someone during those hours of playing with others?

Someone who spat in the inside of her underwear?

Again, it seems to me that the trace DNA is the Ramsey's only "reasonable doubt" in this case and will be the reason Jonbenet's murder is never "officially solved," and why I theorize that John continues to push it so hard. It's my opinion that he didn't want to help the investigation at all in the months following the crime, but now he's pushing more DNA testing 30 years later.

It seems to me that while the rest of the evidence is based on either science that's subjective at best (fibers, handwriting) or dodgy at worst (behaviour analysis, 911 call analysis, EVP), or reliant on memories of officers known to be less than competent (French, Arndt), or just plain gossip, the DNA is the only solid piece of evidence in this case.

Again, I understand your thinking. This case is a mystery to us all and why we are here to discuss! However, I do believe it entirely unfair to ignore all other evidence and by claiming that the DNA points heavily to an intruder in the home is disingenuous.

There's also the unsourced tape, the unsourced cord, the rope of unknown origin in the room next to JonBenet's, the marks that experts thought to be from a stun gun (unsourced).

The case against the Ramseys is full of holes of various sizes, the DNA being the largest. They preached to a Grand Jury for 18 months, and still only got a couple of weak indictments that the DA knew he could never prevail with in court.
 
The cigarette butts were not found on the Ramsey's property at all....they were found in the back ally and police have no idea how long they had been there.

Seems to me that an intruder who was smart and stealth enough , taking care that he entered and left the residence leaving no discernible DNA or finger prints would then be dumb enough to leave a small pile of cigarette butts in the ally with his DNA all over them.
It was 1996, DNA was in its infancy as an investigative tool. It's quite possible he never realized saliva could nail him. But he likely wore gloves - brown cotton fibers that at least one investigator thought were from work gloves were found - to avoid fingerprints.
 
I theorize that Burke was a troubled child
Then why has he been described as well behaved and normal by people who knew him?

He was (reportedly) known to have a temper;
A single former friend claimed this in a 2016 television interview. No one else has described this.

had smeared feces on her Christmas gifts that year.
Fecal material was found on a candy box. The box wasn't collected which means it couldn't have been tested. The box was found located in JBR's bedroom and since JBR had a history of leaving poop places it wasn't supposed to be, it's probably a safe bet it was JBR who got bodily waste on the box.
 
This is my theory on what happened that night/period leading up to that night. I know we all still have so many questions, but it seems like too much makes sense. EVERYTHING BELOW IS MY THEORY BASED ON EVIDENCE I HAVE SEEN AND IS IN NO WAY AN ACCUSATION OR STATEMENT OF FACT AGAINST ANY PARTIES RELATED TO THE CASE. I AM I STATING THE BELOW AS FACT. Happy to have a friendly debate in the comments to let me know where I may be missing something.

I think what people forget to address when stating that the family couldn't have been involved in this is the evidence of SA. More than likely (according to autopsy and experts,) she was being abused before that night, and (in my opinion) would more than likely have been done by either John or by Burke. I'm a firm believer in BDI (the impact to the head at the very least) and that there was a cover up not because the initial hit was an accident, but because they knew calling the police would show that she had been being abused prior to the nights event.

This is where we all have to guess about the extent of the cover up and who committed which act. If it was John that was abusing her, he would have had motive to help stage the cover up to hide the fact that he had been doing that previously. This also can be why the family continuously denies the findings of SA, even though most experts agree that it was taking place. Patsy may not have even known, but again, this is theory and debatable.

The other option is what I believe is the most likely scenario, so stay with me. (Again, this is just my theory based on all the evidence I have seen over the years!) I theorize that Burke was a troubled child and was responsible for the previous SA's, though he may not have even known the extent of his actions or had any criminal intent behind them. He was (reportedly) known to have a temper; and (reportedly) had smeared feces on her Christmas gifts that year. I theorize that the parents knew this was taking place and were trying to get him help through ongoing psychiatric visits while keeping it quiet to avoid tarnishing their image in the community. We can all speculate on what lead to the head blow (pineapple, half unwrapped Christmas gifts in the wine cellar, etc) as well as who committed the SA that night, but I theorize that it occurred while the family was packing for MI after the party. I do not believe they went to sleep as Patsy had her hair and makeup done, as well as the same clothing from the night before. When they realized what Burke had done, you can imagine the predicament they would be placed in. If it were merely an accident, they probably would have just called 9-11. But because of the SA's, questions about its origins would undoubtably be brought up and the family would be reduced to nothing, regardless of who was responsible. If Burke was responsible for the head blow and the SA that night, what's the first thing they would do after staging the kidnapping? Thats right, call their lawyers to seal his medical and psychiatric records from ever becoming public or even seen by police during the investigation. After all, the family deserves some "island of privacy." Why? Well, his records would obviously tell the story, as well as show the parent's knowledge of what may have been going on.

Now here is where it all ties together. In 1998, a Grand Jury issued true bills to indict the Ramsey's for crimes related to the staging of the scene and putting Jonbenet in an unsafe environment resulting in death... This implies that the GJ had enough probable cause to charge the family not for the murder, but for covering up for someone and knowing that she may not have been entirely safe in the home. Could Burke's medical records have been subpoenaed and presented as evidence to the GJ, and is that the evidence that still remains sealed to the public?

Then, why would the GJ vote to indict, but the DA decide not to move forward? Well, I theorize for two reasons. The first, they may not have had enough evidence to get a conviction without unarguable proof on who committed which act that night. After all, the Ramsey's attorneys were absolute STUDS. Secondly, I theorize that the DA/BPD were aware of what likely had happened. However, given Burke's age, he could not have been criminally prosecuted. They could, however, prosecute the family for the above indictments by the GJ and in their eyes, ruin the lives of two outstanding (and rich/influential) Boulder citizens who were forced to make an impossible decision in the moment.

Again, this is all theory, but it seems to tie everything together almost too perfectly. (I even left out a lot more, but happy to have a friendly debate in the comments!)

As I have heard from many other in the past and have now begun to steal - and use as my own... "I don't believe in coincidences."
I would love to hear more! Our theories seem to align. Im curious if you are familiar with children with behavior problems?
 
I really like your theory as it resonates a lot with my own ideas of what might have happened. I posted mine here on a separate topic as well. :) Thank you for sharing!

Only reason for parents to cover up is to protect. And the only person they had left to protect was Burke.
 
People lie for, protect, defend and remain loyal to adult abusers all the time. That is how abuse is allowed to continue. If no one ever rallied around an abuser, no cases of abuse spiraling out of control and turning fatal would exist. In an abusive home situation, people are already covering for each other. The gaslighting and emotional manipulations have already started.

Read up on the Madeline Soto case or Menendez or watch Leaving Neverland.
 
People lie for, protect, defend and remain loyal to adult abusers all the time. That is how abuse is allowed to continue. If no one ever rallied around an abuser, no cases of abuse spiraling out of control and turning fatal would exist. In an abusive home situation, people are already covering for each other. The gaslighting and emotional manipulations have already started.

Read up on the Madeline Soto case or Menendez or watch Leaving Neverland.
And they would lie, protect, defend, remain loyal to their child as well.
 

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