My theory about Rodney Alcala.

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This forum doesn't get much traffic anymore, so this will surely not be much seen if I post it in one of the threads of one of the unidentified people. So, I decided to my better judgment to make a thread.

According to LE and the media, there were 1,700 photos found in Rodney Alcala's storage unit. Of these 1,700 photos, 202 were released to the public while the others were kept away from the public's view because it was so-called "too graphic". In 2010, only a few of major media outlets reported on his photographs. In 2011, he was linked to 4 more murders, 4 of which have went nowhere and Alcala's potential link to those murders did not get updates with the exception of 2 (Cherry Greenman and I believe another woman). In 2016, there was a real link to another victim identified in his photographs, one victim that was callously skipped over because someone mistakenly called themselves to identify themselves as the person in that photograph. Over the years, there have been people who called in to say that they were the person in the photo, but the media did not bother to update this information to the public other than vague context clues. There have also been people who have been identified as missing persons by family members, but who these people were haven't been released. LE has stated that in these unreleased photographs of women/children that many of them were engaged in sexual activities with him, or appeared unconscious or dead. One of the photos released to the public, which was now revoked in a strange error that should have been seen before it was approved to be released, featured a woman who appeared to be at the least grievously injured in a contorted, unnatural-looking position. There have been little updates to Alcala's case since then.

Here is why I think this is 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬:

1) The "too graphic" excuse is nothing but an excuse. I have seen photographs of other infamous, prolific or even lesser known serial killers in which the victims were women, decapitated, or splayed out on the floor. Some were even viciously mutilated, and their bodies chopped up or mauled beyond gruesome recognition. Other serial killers who photographed women have had their photos released of these ladies looking unconscious/dead or in sexual positions; but yet I'm supposed to believe LE finds Rodney Alcala's photos "too graphic" to be released, like all of a sudden they draw the line there? Riiight.

2) I think LE dropped the ball on this one and carried a drastic miscarriage of justice, like they have before on Alcala multiple times. When they let him go for the rape of Tali Shapiro after 2 years, when they refused to charge him with the crime of murdering Jill Parenteau despite DNA evidence of his blood being on her window & his own self-admission of killing her until they found sperm inside of her, when they refused to release his photographs until 3 decades later, when they kept giving him chance after chance with appeals and retrials, when they let him off on bond for raping and beating a 15 year old, and many other countless examples of insanity you really wonder how he has so many wings to keep on going and even after all of this he is getting off scot free once again by LE's stupid and frankly suspicious behavior.

Personally, I think that they just don't wanna do anything and know he has victims in there but they don't feel like releasing it so they won't "waste" (in their eyes, maybe because the cases are so old and irrelevant to them now) resources pursuing crimes connected to Alcala. They're barely doing any work themselves, after all. Just letting the photos collect dust on some lazy cop's shelf who doesn't bother doing anything. I mean, people on websleuth have put more collective effort in their pinky finger than LE has done after releasing this case. The only thing LE did right was with Christine Ruth Thornton, and that's after her sister aggressively pushed for her killer to be found.

What makes it more sickening and disgusting is that the media and LE will play up into other known, more famous killers and go over their story over and over again for the sake of sensationalism and creating more money, instead of producing more evidence, identifying people, and making things more known because it wastes "time and resources".

I mean, none of the focus on any of the other serial killers they keep publishing the same shows about are worth a 🤬🤬🤬🤬, since all of their crimes have been connected to them and everything about them have been explored for the past century, so why has Alcala who has barely information about him or his cases, with active and ongoing cases against him, be so ignored and kept in the background? Sounds to me they're protecting him -again- in some way or he has a connection to somebody that could get implicated at the very least. 'Cuz even if you go with the theory "it's a waste of time and resources", they still do focus on 70s and 80s serial killers and the victims they "might" have, so that's not a real excuse. Sorry with the conspiracies but everything about this is fishy and odd especially with how everything panned out in 10 years.


 
LE has stated that in these unreleased photographs of women/children that many of them were engaged in sexual activities with him, or appeared unconscious or dead. One of the photos released to the public, which was now revoked in a strange error that should have been seen before it was approved to be released, featured a woman who appeared to be at the least grievously injured in a contorted, unnatural-looking position.
I feel that those photos should not be released because they depict deceased and still-living victims, which includes children. They deserve privacy and respect. It also sounds like there are photos that are CSAM, which should never be shared because it further victimizes the child. I do sympathize with your frustration that it seems they have not brought up the photos in recent years as there are still victims presumably unidentified.
 
First picture of missing girl
The girl in blue is from Alcala photos? Thoughts!!
 

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How accurate is estimated time of death for the UID cases? I found this NH victim:
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
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They found her in Marlborough NH mid-April 1974, they're estimating age 19-30. Marlborough's about an hour south from Lake Sunapee where Alcala was working at a counselor around this time. They think she was there since late 1973. Alcala would be in prison in 1973. Would it be possible the remains pre-dated the 1973 and were from sometime in or prior to August 1971? The sketches resemble this girl in an image from Alcala's collection:
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I'm checking other sources and seeing the post-mortem interval may actually be 1-2 years. This makes more sense to me because on Namus, they're saying near or complete skeletonization. I do think the girl in the Alcala image does look like her (especially the nose in profile), and the victim in Marlborough was found in a light brown coat, but it was a corduroy coat. This coat in the Alcala image doesn't look corduroy to me, but there are some corduroys that don't have pronounced ribbing.
 
Has anyone seen this Alcala photo before? I haven't seen this image in too many of the photo compilations:
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I thought at first that girl was on the ground. I now am wondering if that's actually not the patterning of a bedspread or rug rather than the ground. I think the girl in that image resembles this girl:
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Karen Baxter, 15
1975 February 22 Hotel Belmore, Room 202, 61 Lexington Avenue (& E 25th Street), New York, NY.


Street sex worker strangled with her own necklace chain. Found nude face down on bed clad in one stocking. Partly covered by bed sheet.
Hotel desk clerk checked-in for a short 4-hour rental Baxter and a dark-skinned male client at 10:00 pm. At 10:10 pm the male came down and dropped key off at desk. When Baxter failed to come down clerk checked room at 10:20 and found Baxter murdered.

Killed on same "stroll" from which Jean Clark, 27 was taken from on 1972 September 2
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May just a coincidence on the resemblance because Alcala was in prison at the time this happened. This also sounds more like Richard Cottingham in terms of the way the murderer operated. It's strange to me, though, with the resemblance because the girl in the image really does (jmo) bear a pretty strong resemblance to the victim. Cottingham was working at the same Blue Cross Blue Shield office as Alcala at one point according to multiple sources.
 
Some people think she's Andrea from The Girls in the Club thread- (One of Andy Warhall's Superstars, who commited suicide in 1972) I don't, and I also don't think (regardless what Leee Childers said, I did speak with him years ago), that that woman is Andrea at all. Andrea had a pile of hair- very very thick and a LOT of it, girl in he club has hair more like mine, thin/flyaway. There are no other pictures of this girl shown, other than this photo.
 
I have seen it before. I do think she's laying on a rug/carpet. I've got her lumped in with the girl in a yellow shirt with the young blonde haired girl, but I'm not at all certain that it's the same woman in both sets of pictures.
 
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Quite a while back, I wrote up a post on another thread where I was discussing why I think a certain 2003 NY/Midtown Jane Doe might have been an Alcala victim. I realized at the time this was incredibly unlikely, but couldn't help noticing a couple of points regardless. I figured I was going to research it just to put it to rest, like rule it out, I still cannot rule it out. I'm going to paste in the post I had on the other thread and follow it up with a couple extra notes.

I'm wondering about this girl in these Alcala photographs:
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The Killer's Photos

The bricks in the background of that image up there look like the brick background at the NYC nightclub "The Scene," which operated in NYC in the 1960s. There were apartments above the club. And there was a Jane Doe from that building where "The Scene" was located who has only recently been identified/Patricia McGlone. They're placing her date of death at 1969. She was strangled with an electrical cord and encased in concrete in the basement of301 W. 46th St/Hell's Kitchen, where the club was located. I started wondering if this Jane Doe, named Patricia McGlone, was an Alcala victim, but I figured I was probably wrong. However, I've noticed some other things since. There appear to be rings in Alcala's jewelry pouch. The picture of the pouch that I've seen is terrible, it's very difficult to make out what's in there, but I'm sure I saw rings, and I thought one of those rings might be a claddagh ring, which is something Irish-Americans would be familiar with back in the 60s. They're love/friendship rings, some people even use these rings as wedding rings. This could connect with an Irish-American victim in NYC, and the recently identified Jane Doe is Irish-American. She was also very young, which I also find alarming based on these Alcala pics. But this very young newly-identified victim would have been married, and they didn't mention a wedding ring among her remains. I also wonder if someone didn't marry her under an alias (and this has proven to be correct, her husband "Donald Grant" used an alias), she was evidently both married and murdered in 1969. Also, as I looked through other of Alcala's photos, I saw this pic:
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So I'm wondering now if this is the same girl in the other Alcala pics above, just somewhat older and she cut her hair. I can't get over how much the brick background on this pic particularly resembles the brick background from downstairs club "The Scene," and that is the building where they discovered the young female victim in 2003. I've gotten images of the outside of the building where the 2003 victim was discovered, those building images (where "Scene" was located) "could" theoretically "match up" with this Alcala photo apartment's layout. I've also to the extent possible gotten images of the neighboring buildings for the building where the victim's body was found, which hasn't been very easy to do since many have been since demolished, but from what I saw, that could all line up as well.

There are extremely creepy things about this final image entered here just by itself. If you look between the two windows, there is a horrifying image, either being reflected or somehow placed there (you may be able to see it on certain copies of this image blown up), and I won't get into what it is, but it's terrifying. And this photo's cropped, but I've seen a larger version, and that thing dangling from above, you see it beneath the girl, it's pink, that is a swing. (???) At first I thought it was a drop-down table or something, but no, it's a swing. This girl is getting something to eat, so I wondered if she wasn't staying or living there (which she would have been if married to an SK using an alias). I wonder if she saw the horrifying image in the background and it wasn't a message to her. She looks terrified. The girl in the prior two first photos looks upset, but this third image, she looks uncomfortable, perhaps petrified and/or in shock, and the image is slightly blurred. No eye contact. And also, the girl in the third image may have a large ring on what would be her right ring finger, but it's very blurry, I can't tell for certain. It seemed to when I blew up the image. They identified the Manhattan Jane Doe 2003 with a large gold ring with her initials found with her remains. Additional notes: In this third image, the girl appears to be standing on a very large and dark colored rug, maybe chocolate colored, not sure if there's any red tint; the Jane Doe was found wrapped in a very large rust-colored rug. The Jane Doe was found hogtied with electrical cord, that must have been a long cord. In the image, there's a vacuum cleaner (they have very long cords) in the background. I looked up McGlones in the region at random, they generally have darker skin and very dark hair. (Certain counties in Ireland can lend themselves to much fairer v darker skin tone and coloring generally.) I also tracked what I could find for the victim's family members and found a source noting one of her relatives (I believe it was an uncle) had a dark, ruddy complexion. Also, Patricia McGlone's "Donald Grant" husband who used the alias-- he is listed at this time in a phone directory at having lived at 301 W. 46th St., so he lived in the same building as the club. There were apartments upstairs. Again, this could sync with the Alcala images. "Donald Grant" listed his profession as "musician." Alcala's mother was evidently a gifted musician, I've seen different things on sources, saw proficient pianist and/or harpist, and he supposedly also loved the piano. I've wondered if this isn't how he struck up an association with victim Ellen Hover. And also, in one document I saw, it notes he mentions some certain song when trying to defend himself on his charges, a song by folk musician Arlo Guthrie, who played many, many small venues right around this time in Greenwich Village. "The Scene" had strong ties especially in its later years to the area's folk musicians, and people in the folk scene did play there.

This post is pure speculation. I cannot help but wonder about this. Alcala was in NYC in 1969 according to some sources, and former site of "Scene" nightclub is where they found this victim I had mentioned that's recently been identified. There were experimental type films shot there, very "artsy" crowd at Scene nightclub, that's Alcala all day long, NYU film student, "Dating Game." I just can't help but wonder. I also saw that on his "resume" he evidently worked security, although I don't know where. I wonder if he may have had some security gig with "Scene" nightclub. And also, I know when the club opened, they used a house pianist. Jumping back to the first Alcala image of the girl, her necklaces in the first image. She has love beads on, either that or Mardi Gras beads. I tend towards love beads, and they don't really go with her outfit. Alcala wore such beads. Perhaps (just in theory) he gave her the beads. Also, she has a very distinctive necklace on that I'm sure is her own. This necklace:
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I figured at first it was just a random design, but then I noticed the top portion looks a little like a shamrock and the middle looks like a cross. It's cut off a bit on here at the bottom, but I also think the part dangling at the very bottom may be another cross. I think this may be along the lines of what they call an "infinity necklace," either silver or pewter. Whatever the case, the necklace has a bit of a Celtic feel to me.

Another note: she is beneath a Le Point Cardinal poster in that image, I guess these posters are associated with art at a French gallery. Images of "Scene" would also sync with this informal display of very artistic/"artsy" types of images, there are "Scene" pics where such images are displayed in exactly the same way, no frame, just fixed randomly to walls.

This is the newest rendering I've seen for Patricia McGlone online. To my knowledge, there is no actual photo of her, at least not yet:
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I believe that Alcala is known to have used not just the John Berger alias, but also (If I'm not mistaken), "John Ronald." And I think this rendering above looks like the girl in the Alcala images. Long post, thanks for your patience, all MOO & pure speculation. Probably not, but I find it just very curious.
 
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