Mystery couple murdered in South Carolina, 1976 - #6

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  • #981
Sorry to keep posting on this thread, but i've just seen that quebec has a completely different police force than the RCMP. So, maybe we should be looking within the Quebec police system for missing persons. I'll try to do some today.
 
  • #982
Please find something to "blame" other than Canadian law enforcement!

Here in the US, we have a mish-mash that often leads to a big mess. There can be two towns or cities that share a boundary line but don't share information. Those two towns are in a county with an elected Sheriff. The county is in a state with their own law enforcement, usually the Highway Patrol. On top of that, there is the FBI available for certain types of cases.

When a person is missing, that person may live in one of the towns -- and that police force doesn't want to take a report because the missing person was last seen in the other town. The county doesn't want to take the report because the person lived & worked within city limits -- not in the county.

The city where I live includes a university with it's own police force, adding yet another layer....

In many places, some locals will trust the Highway Patrol, but not he Sheriff or the municipal police force. Other individuals will trust the Sheriff and no one else.

Cooperation is difficult for many adults, this disjointed situation is not unique to law enforcement.
 
  • #983
Sorry I'm not trying to blame anyone. I'm just trying to state that there may be two different systems, which makes it confusing. If it came of as blaming i'm sorry.

Regardless, I checked all the missing persons in Quebec and I also didnt see anyone among them resembling these UID's.
 
  • #984
Delete... didnt mean to offend.
 
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I found about 30 people named Jacques Paquet on Facebook alone :p And I thought it was going to be such a good clue.

Wait. Would his last name even be Paquet if he was this gentleman's stepson?
 
  • #988
Wait. Would his last name even be Paquet if he was this gentleman's stepson?
I'm pretty sure now that the translation says, "besides his wife he is survived by him childen..."

Sorry it was 4am at the time I found that. My brain wasnt being very cooperative.
 
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  • #990
Wait. Would his last name even be Paquet if he was this gentleman's stepson?

I think they're all his children and the funny wording is a translation issue with French pronouns. But I could be wrong.


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  • #991
I believe I found his stepmothers fb page, and it would seem he is alive and well. :( damn!

Good he's still alive though!
 
  • #992
Sorry to keep posting on this thread, but i've just seen that quebec has a completely different police force than the RCMP. So, maybe we should be looking within the Quebec police system for missing persons. I'll try to do some today.

The more I check the internet, the more I realize that there are people missing everywhere that fall through the cracks of recordation in public database systems. Had the Anthony Child in Florida not been reported as missing by her grandmother (who actually suspected her daughter of murder), no one would have been looking for the child or questioning the mother. If the daughter had given her mother a reasonable answer for the whereabouts of the granddaughter or had completely estranged herself from the grandmother, would the crime have been discovered or even identified if the remains had been found? When you stop to think about what goes into declaring someone missing, or identifying some cases of remains found, there is a big disconnect--you have to have someone looking and someone finding in most cases to really be solved--otherwise it remains either a "missing" or "Unidentified" cold case. It is sad to think that some people can go missing, and no one cares, or laws refused to accept missing reports from people who have no "family connection" to the missing person. In cases of unidentifiable remains, someone has to be "seeking" and "missing reports have to be accepted and distributed" in order to make an identification. Think about it; In some evil cases, a knowledgeable person about a "missing" may not want the remains found or identified. The missing may go unreported; and publicity of found remains may be ignored. We still have a long way to go in meshing our Missing Persons Information/Unidentified Remains databases. And, in some cases, the "missing" are living but presumed to be dead. Sad, but real thoughts.
 
  • #993
The more I check the internet, the more I realize that there are people missing everywhere that fall through the cracks of recordation in public database systems. Had the Anthony Child in Florida not been reported as missing by her grandmother (who actually suspected her daughter of murder), no one would have been looking for the child or questioning the mother. If the daughter had given her mother a reasonable answer for the whereabouts of the granddaughter or had completely estranged herself from the grandmother, would the crime have been discovered or even identified if the remains had been found? When you stop to think about what goes into declaring someone missing, or identifying some cases of remains found, there is a big disconnect--you have to have someone looking and someone finding in most cases to really be solved--otherwise it remains either a "missing" or "Unidentified" cold case. It is sad to think that some people can go missing, and no one cares, or laws refused to accept missing reports from people who have no "family connection" to the missing person. In cases of unidentifiable remains, someone has to be "seeking" and "missing reports have to be accepted and distributed" in order to make an identification. Think about it; In some evil cases, a knowledgeable person about a "missing" may not want the remains found or identified. The missing may go unreported; and publicity of found remains may be ignored. We still have a long way to go in meshing our Missing Persons Information/Unidentified Remains databases. And, in some cases, the "missing" are living but presumed to be dead. Sad, but real thoughts.
Yes, it's so sad. I dont want to derail the thread with my ramblings though. I just get overly excited! I was trying to think about this in a different way, that maybe there was a reason why we couldnt find Jacques in the canadian database.
 
  • #994
I think they're all his children and the funny wording is a translation issue with French pronouns. But I could be wrong.


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I think the question is could Jacques be the son of the Urologist? Is there a missing report filed on this doctor's son or stepson? The next step would be to connect timing, location, physical characteristics, or any other kind of information in the two cases (assuming there are two cases to connect).
 
  • #995
I think the question is could Jacques be the son of the Urologist? Is there a missing report filed on this doctor's son or stepson? The next step would be to connect timing, location, physical characteristics, or any other kind of information in the two cases (assuming there are two cases to connect).
I am pretty sure I just found Jacques Paquet on FB and he is still alive. It doesnt seem as if a missing persons report was filed in that area.

Jean Paquet practiced medicine at a Children's Hospital in Quebec city. What i wonder is if the family possibly knew someone who disappeared. He did work with children.
 
  • #996
Yes, it's so sad. I dont want to derail the thread with my ramblings though. I just get overly excited! I was trying to think about this in a different way, that maybe there was a reason why we couldnt find Jacques in the canadian database.

The other "sad but real" part of cases, usually involving children, is that in some evil cases, the children continue to live with new identities, while the parents grieve an unexplained loss.
 
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Okay. The translation seems to say that Jacques was his wife's son. Hmm. Interesting.
 
  • #999
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/2apmee/sumter_county_does_1976/
Months after the murder, an employee of a Santee, South Carolina campground claimed that he had met the couple weeks before the two's deaths. He said that the man's name was either Jock or Jacques and that he and his companion were going to Florida. The man and the employee soon became friends, and later told him that he was the son of a doctor in Canada

Wiki page has been updated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumter_County_Does

The initials JPF were engraved inside the ring, which had a Florentine finish

Both the ring and the watch were rather expensive. This, together with the man's elaborate dental work, suggested that he had come from an affluent family

I think it's only a matter of time...

Edit:

Turns out they weren't bro & sis. I always thought they were boyfriend & girlfriend.

Could be his initials engraved inside the ring. A "J", a "P" & a "F". Either "J"ock or "J"acques. His memory not 100% sure. This was months after the murder.
 
  • #1,000
Oh, I thought the initials were JFP not JPF! I shall go through the medical journals again and look for someone with the last name F not P.

My train of thought is that if this guy was from Quebec, the best dental/medical school at the time would likely be Laval in Quebec city. I believe in the 60's Laval was the only school in Quebec offering dentistry so if Jacques had extensive dental work at a dentistry school, it would have to be there. So it's probably likely his father went to school/ practiced there. If his Dad was a somewhat well known doctor/dentist he probably has some publications.
 
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