Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #20

[raisincharlie]

IIRC they got a blood sample from BC. If this is correct and they did get a sample of blood, is this normal or a step beyond what is normally done?

The press reported it as either blood or saliva - no confirmation of which it was really.

 

[Star12]

LE did take a DNA sample from Brad at 3am on the 16th. The easiest sample to collect is saliva. Usually need someone with medical training to take blood and a clean environment. Saliva is easy - closed tube - stick a swab in his mouth and wipe around on the inside of the cheek and re-insert into sealed tube. Just thinking...

Think they might also have pulled some blood for typing?

 

[raisincharlie]

Think they might also have pulled some blood for typing?

Can do typing on the spot. Possible they took both but without the darned warrants we won't know for quite some time. They would not need saliva to make an adequate comparison to any on a cell phone for instance.

Lets hope they also looked under his sleeves - perhaps a blood draw would give them this opportunity.

 

[momto3kids]

The press reported it as either blood or saliva - no confirmation of which it was really.

nline: I'm looking...I could have sworn I saw it just recently where it stated blood was taken. When I saw this I thought it was a step beyond the norm..IDK

 

[jilly]

I think Brad would have used his car for his errands and then gone looking with the kids in Nancy's vehicle which I'm sure would have been equipped with the kid's car seats.

 

[Anderson]

Is it at all possible that someone that NC knew, trusted and had run with before came over to go jogging with her? Is it possible that this other person is responsible? Nancy and SH had trained together before. Perhaps her purse and cell were in the car in anticipation of going to run. She usually did take her car.

This wouldn't rule out the murder taking place at the house. Rather than taking her car, they put her body into another car. That way BC stays somewhat clean.

This may be a far out scenario, but I thought I would throw it out there.

 

[DogWood]

nline: I'm looking...I could have sworn I saw it just recently where it stated blood was taken. When I saw this I thought it was a step beyond the norm..IDK

Here's one reference:

...and a judge ordered Brad Cooper to submit blood and saliva samples for DNA testing.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,384622,00.html

Good morning!

 

[raisincharlie]

Here's one reference:

...and a judge ordered Brad Cooper to submit blood and saliva samples for DNA testing.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,384622,00.html

Good morning!

Thanks DogWood - but I do wonder how they, Fox, knew - sealed warrant.

 

[DogWood]

Thanks DogWood - but I do wonder how they, Fox, knew - sealed warrant.

Oh so true!

 

[raisincharlie]

Is it at all possible that someone that NC knew, trusted and had run with before came over to go jogging with her? Is it possible that this other person is responsible? Nancy and SH had trained together before. Perhaps her purse and cell were in the car in anticipation of going to run. She usually did take her car.

This wouldn't rule out the murder taking place at the house. Rather than taking her car, they put her body into another car. That way BC stays somewhat clean.

This may be a far out scenario, but I thought I would throw it out there.

Anderson - the very concept of murder is IMO far out. At this point and with what little is known, this theory has as much validity as any other posted. Worth speculating on, not impossible at all.

 

[raisincharlie]

Oh so true!

It is not beyond possibility that a local reporter knows just through their contacts at LE - it is possible both were collected. Seems a bit redundant to me but who knows. Studying on it - blood seems more likely - gotta roll up a sleeve to do that.

 

[momto3kids]

Here's one reference:

...and a judge ordered Brad Cooper to submit blood and saliva samples for DNA testing.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,384622,00.html

Good morning!

Thanks Dogwood...I owe you one:highfive:

 

[Anderson]

Anderson - the very concept of murder is IMO far out. At this point and with what little is known, this theory has as much validity as any other posted. Worth speculating on, not impossible at all.

Yes, I wish there was more information. At least LE knows much more than we do and is hopefully on to something by now.

I am very new at this obviously. I wonder if websleuths helps at all with the investigation. When I look at the time, effort and experience that many of you bring to this discussion, it seems that websleuths may contribute to the investigation as a sort of brain storming factory. Have you ever received any recognition for past cases?

 

[momto3kids]

It is not beyond possibility that a local reporter knows just through their contacts at LE - it is possible both were collected. Seems a bit redundant to me but who knows. Studying on it - blood seems more likely - gotta roll up a sleeve to do that.

If NC was found with blood under her nails, it could be they got a sample from BC to see if there was a match. I don't know the length of time to do a blood match with dry blood. But I do know within an hour (actually less)they will have his blood type back to crossmatch.

 

[Anderson]

If NC was found with blood under her nails, it could be they got a sample from BC to see if there was a match. I don't know the length of time to do a blood match with dry blood. But I do know within an hour (actually less)they will have his blood type back to crossmatch.

Remember that BC and his lawyers asked for this information to be released. They were sure that it would clear him. That is one reason why I think that it may be a more complicated scenario.

 

[DogWood]

It is not beyond possibility that a local reporter knows just through their contacts at LE - it is possible both were collected. Seems a bit redundant to me but who knows. Studying on it - blood seems more likely - gotta roll up a sleeve to do that.

And it could just be 'and' was used instead of 'or'.

 

[Anderson]

And it could just be 'and' was used instead of 'or'.

Yes, the media makes a lot of mistakes.

 

[raisincharlie]

Yes, I wish there was more information. At least LE knows much more than we do and is hopefully on to something by now.

I am very new at this obviously. I wonder if websleuths helps at all with the investigation. When I look at the time, effort and experience that many of you bring to this discussion, it seems that websleuths may contribute to the investigation as a sort of brain storming factory. Have you ever received any recognition for past cases?

WS has received some accolades for involvement in cases and lots of work has been done on missing persons cases in particular. Occasionally you will note a sticky that details a wish by , for example, Dateline, wanting details, information and so on about cold cases, and other things. It is also known that various LE have in the past monitored the forums across the web.

It is a good brainstorming exercise, and to give credit - often local people in an area where a crime has occurred can and often do provide information, perhaps they think it unimportant , but it does end up helping LE.

 

[Anderson]

WS has received some accolades for involvement in cases and lots of work has been done on missing persons cases in particular. Occasionally you will note a sticky that details a wish by , for example, Dateline, wanting details, information and so on about cold cases, and other things. It is also known that various LE have in the past monitored the forums across the web.

It is a good brainstorming exercise, and to give credit - often local people in an area where a crime has occurred can and often do provide information, perhaps they think it unimportant , but it does end up helping LE.

Thanks! Very interesting. Although they may not be able to use the information that BC's former girlfriend from Canada has provided here, I would think that they would find it interesting. They would not have had this sort of personal insight without websleuths.

 

[raisincharlie]

Remember that BC and his lawyers asked for this information to be released. They were sure that it would clear him. That is one reason why I think that it may be a more complicated scenario.

Maybe that is exactly what the defense lawyer wanted you to believe.

This attempt to obtain an uncompleted autopsy and the notes was a calculated gamble - nothing more. The defense lawyer knew it would be snowing in hades before a judge would agree to force the ME to hand this over with an ongoing investigation taking place. Neither the ME, LE/DA, are obligated to give Mr. Cooper anything related to this investigation, not even for a civil matter. 100 % Bluster

Except a copy of the search warrant for the home and cars and collection of his DNA - I should add.