Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #26

[SleuthyGal]

The SW was executed on 9/24

Hiller signed his affidavit on 9/29 and then it was filed in the court system.

 

[jumpstreet]

The SW was executed on 9/24

Hiller signed his affidavit on 9/29 and then it was filed in the court system.

Is it possible MH shared this story with LE during his interrogation though (before filing the affidavit), and that prompted the SW's?

Just seems a little interesting that MH was talking about JA's (hysterical?) reaction to a certain text message she received... and now LE is interesting in searching internal history/logs/entries on NC's phone. Maybe there's no relation at all... but... otoh...

 

[reddress58]

Yeah, that part (of the article) is strange. (the part about LE supposedly telling or implying to Hiller that someone saw him using NC's phone).

The part of the article that says he was calling NC's phone presumably meant calling from NC's phone [ otherwise, as posted, it wouldn't make any sense ]

All that still doesn't explain what LE might be (now) interested in finding on the phone itself (past text messages to/from BC perhaps?) Wonder what other BC-related stuff they might hope to find on her mobile phone, and in her private non-phone address books? [ Did they have to go back to the house last week to obtain these? ]

I'm not sure when Hiller's affidavit would have been made known to LE, but can't help but wonder if there is a tie between his custody affidavit (where he shared the reaction of NC to the text from a mystery person named Brett)... and the recent SW (to access privately stored information on NC's phone). What do y'all think - complete coincidence???

Or maybe!!...LE is looking for information about someone OTHER than BC! (note: I am being open minded )

 

[reddress58]

I have a good sense of humor, Jumpstreet. Don't worry, you're not going to offend me. We can tease each other and still have different opinions. It actually lightens an otherwise grim subject somewhat. So 'shocked' you can be.

Seriously, Garner's post regarding the locked cell phone did give me pause. Of course, SG offers another explaination of someone other than NC setting a password after using it. Either way, it has raised my curiosity.

 

[jumpstreet]

I have a good sense of humor, Jumpstreet. Don't worry, you're not going to offend me. We can tease each other and still have different opinions. It actually lightens an otherwise grim subject somewhat. So 'shocked' you can be.

Seriously, Garner's post regarding the locked cell phone did give me pause. Of course, SG offers another explaination of someone other than NC setting a password after using it. Either way, it has raised my curiosity.

Thanks reddress - wasn't meaning "shocked" in shocked that you're open-minded. Shocked - more like "wow - could LE actually be looking at others besides BC". I edited my post b/c I didn't want it to be mis-interpreted. Sounds like you were cool either way.

Fact is, we don't know exactly what LE was after in searching her phone (and other private address books), so it's impossible to read too much into it [ and even when the warrant is posted, we'll still not know ]

We do know that something (or someone) has led them down this path [and off hand, to me, I'm having a hard time coming up with a theory as to how the address-book and phone information would have a hard-tie to BC... but who knows ]

 

[momto3kids]

I just asked my husband who has a Blackberry...he hates it, too complicated for a simple person he said. He told me it has all kind of lock features. He said it is possible to lock certain areas (he thinks) such as the address/phone book part, email portion, etc. He said it could be this occured. He has no idea if thisis the case since he hates the phone. His book is at the office he thinks and of course is not willing to go to RTP to get it.

Could it be she had only a portion locked which identified who's who?

 

[jmflu]

Locked means you had to enter a password to access the phones functionality.

Here is a question..If her phone was locked, how did he use it to make a call?

He is probably the one who locked it!

 

[reddress58]

Thanks reddress - wasn't meaning "shocked" in shocked that you're open-minded. Shocked - more like "wow - could LE actually be looking at others besides BC". I edited my post b/c I didn't want it to be mis-interpreted. Sounds like you were cool either way.

Fact is, we don't know exactly what LE was after in searching her phone (and other private address books), so it's impossible to read too much into it [ and even when the warrant is posted, we'll still not know ]

We do know that something (or someone) has led them down this path [and off hand, to me, I'm having a hard time coming up with a theory as to how the address-book and phone information would have a hard-tie to BC... but who knows ]

I got it. Yes, I'm cool.

I don't understand why LE would wait this late into the investigation to get a SW for her phone information. I would think that would be one of the FIRST items they would disect.

ETA: After all, this board has been refering to her phone as evidence since day one! And we're not LE.

 

[jumpstreet]

He is probably the one who locked it!

Yeah - BC probably used it (or somehow got someone else to use it) to call his mobile number sometime on the 12th... and then put a lock code on it... to make sure no one (especially not LE) could ever use the phone to see who had called who, etc.

 

[reddress58]

He is probably the one who locked it!

And if so, he could have also erased lots of pertinent information. :-(

 

[Anderson]

He is probably the one who locked it!

Yes, I think that you are on the right track JMFLU. :clap: Hard to believe that this is just being investigated now! I would think that BC is very good at covering his tracks regarding the technical stuff. Hope that they able to figure out if, when and where calls were made from that phone.

 

[jmflu]

I'm guessing that the SW is for the information on her phone rather than the phone itself, kinda like seizing a computer but needing a separate SW for the info on it. I'm not sure about the "locked" part, but I took it to mean password protected. Mine is more primitive too , but I've seen people on Craigslist advertising unlocked cell phones.

Isn't it odd that they are JUST NOW getting a SW for the phone??

Here we assumed they had access to it and knew what was on it all along...

 

[reddress58]

Isn't it odd that they are JUST NOW getting a SW for the phone??

Here we assumed they had access to it and knew what was on it all along...

It really creeps me out to think we (on the board) may be thinking farther ahead of LE! Please don't let it be so!

 

[reddress58]

Hey Sluethy! I think it's time you ask your honey J. Young out for that beer. We need to know the dish on this cell phone inquiry! Ha! Ha!

 

[jumpstreet]

Isn't it odd that they are JUST NOW getting a SW for the phone??

Here we assumed they had access to it and knew what was on it all along...

To me, it makes more sense that some recent discovery or thread-of-investigation has led them to want to learn more about NC's interactions with other individuals. The newspaper article says that the SW is for access to the internals of her mobile phone (which would be contacts, text-messages, etc)... and... other (presumably non-phone) address books.

It doesn't make sense (to me) that this would be a 'general info sweep' that LE is undertaking. FWIW, it also doesn't make sense to me that BC would have used the phone for alibi purposes, then put a lock code on it. Makes much more sense that (as the newspaper article implies), NC herself previously kept a lock code on it, due to pending divorce proceedings, and/or some other desire to keep things private.

 

[jmflu]

I'm thinking something more along the lines of him knowing the password but letting her think he doesn't -- so he can keep tabs on her. Just speculation, but people do it with computers all the time.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

 

[jumpstreet]

Hey Sluethy! I think it's time you ask your honey J. Young out for that beer. We need to know the dish on this cell phone inquiry! Ha! Ha!

Yes - do that Sleuthy... since I went down to the ME's office in CH a couple weeks ago (per your encouragement) to nudge things along... the least you can do is set up an appointment with Det Young.

 

[mahmoo]

Isn't it odd that they are JUST NOW getting a SW for the phone??

Here we assumed they had access to it and knew what was on it all along...

Hi jmflu :seeya:

The article says Police investigating the disappearance and death of Nancy Cooper recently re-examined a cell phone and two address books belonging to the Cary mother, according to a new search warrant returned in the case.

Of course......I don't know what they hoped to find that they may have missed the first time

 

[RaleighNC]

I also do think it's possible that she was going to leave the next morning - permanently.

It may also be possible that she had been connecting with someone and that relationship was helping her "get herself back" and stand up to Brad.

It could have really pissed Brad off if he found out and if she was getting "stronger" and not being controlled by him. I suspect that he would have preferred that she move back to Canada - and not be there as a constant reminder of the "failure", and have to see her live her life while he would have to pay child support and perhaps alimony. He'd certainly not want to see her with someone else where she may have had the potential to live a 'better' or wealthier life....

Perhaps she found someone that was starting to make her happy?

 

[jumpstreet]

Perhaps she found someone that was starting to make her happy?

You're thinking there may be someone (whose address or contact information is in her phone) who is innocent, but, so far, hasn't come forward and identified themselves voluntarily to LE?