Nancy Grace -10/3/08 - Friday

[TURBOTHINK]

She borrowed the shovel because they had locked the shed (per kc to neighbor) and she didnt have a key.

Im thinking Caylee was already in the trunk, and kc was going to bury her in the backyard. She layed Caylees body somewhere in the yard (reason for cadaver dog hits) then attempted to dig a hole. She probably decided it was going to be too difficult, so she put Caylee back in the trunk and took the shovel back. The neighbor said she didnt look dirty, and the shovel wasnt very dirty when she returned it.

That is what I think too. She had no idea how hard it would be to dig a hole that size. She may have put her in the sandbox (it had a lid) or under it for a while until she could decide what to do. She likely did not think about the smell until later.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Does anyone know if they tested any of the soil in the back yard (if they are able to do this) ?

Yes, they did take soil samples for testing.

 

[Shermie]

yea the infamous squirrel pizza?

:yuck: I'm sitting in front of my monitor, and at the exact moment I began reading your post, I was putting a nice big forkful of Chinese chicken broccoli up to my lips! Oh, well, I needed to cut down on my meal size anyway.:sick:

 

[TURBOTHINK]

LOL Chicoliving and I used to laugh about what our histories on our computers would look like to LE or a forensic computer expert. They would lock us up for sure!

At least, we have proof we are here and not out doing those things tho. :waitasec:

Just hope we are never accused of a crime.........they would have us all on web searches alone. LOL

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I have bamboo in my yard.....it's actually called miniature bamboo although it is about 35 feet tall......the canes are small though. I'm an avid gardner, quite tall for a woman at 5'8" and very fit.....won't tell ya my age but........basically, I can't dig the bamboo up. Hubby has a major struggle doing it. Point is....I don't think KC was digging up bamboo.

Especially if she was intending on not moving back in with CA and GA like Nate and AL said!! Why would she?!

 

[monoxide]

I only say bumper sticker if it's on the bumper. I call anything on the window a decal.

Yeah its hard understand what the tipster would think though

 

[MD MOMMY]

Yes, LE had already searched and had the hits by the dogs. The lime came out the afternoon that Tim with TES said that morning he wanted to search their yard again and was going to talk to them to get permission.

I do not have a link, but it was on the news, and many here watched it live. I sure did the minute I saw that lime bag thinking how he was going to get sued if someone, especially a child stepped on that barefoot. Then I watched him with about 5 or 6 bags to the back yard. The news said he was doing the back yard too which is when I wondered if they never let their dogs out there and then it occurred to me they KNEW Caylee was not coming back or they would never have put that in the back. Next thought was hmmmmmmmm, cover up because TES was coming.

Of course TES never came because they would not let them and TES left right afterwards.

I remember GA furiously sprinkling it on the front lawn. I wasn't as perceptive as Turbo..I didn't read the bag. I figured it was fertlizer of some sort. I remember thinking of SP and thinking..GA has balls..oops am I aloud to say that?

 

[lawlady84]

Just hope we are never accused of a crime.........they would have us all on web searches alone. LOL

totally agree...now i watch what i read at work, between google and westlaw: "decomp" "maggots" "escort orlando florida" "depraved indifference sentencing" "taking a minor across state lines for the purpose of" "murder statute of limitations" and the kicker "if they never find the body /within3 probability" ... awkward

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I guess the dogs would have been confused since they'd already been there weeks prior to George fertilizing the lawn. Hydrated lime is rarely used on lawns because it burns existing grass. I see no signs of the Anthony's lawn being burnt.

It doesn't burn existing grass that I know of..........we use it each year. You just have to keep it watered down good for a few days. The only thing you don't do is fertilize and lime in the same year or that will burn up your grass.

Hydrated lime is cheap and in many areas of the country that is what is used on farms. If you have a cow down in the field and don't have a backhoe available for a few days you just lime him down until you do. It was also used for many years in outhouses.

We use hydrated lime to lime down potatoes for winter storage. There are a lot of uses for it, and that is why it caught my attention.

 

[Unsolved]

If anyone paid attention they could see the bags said hydrated lime which I thought was strange at the time because there is a big difference between that and garden lime.

Longtime lurker here, and just had to post about the lime. This is very interesting to me because when we lived on a farm if we had to bury an animal we always had to use hydrated lime to sanitize the remains and TO KEEP THE FLIES DOWN.

Here is some info from OSU about this:

It is legal to bury animal mortalities on your farm if certain requirements are met and specific recommendations are followed. The bottom of the hole must be dry (not in a water table). The dead animal should be covered with hydrated lime, and then covered with at least 4’ of soil mounded up to allow for settling as the carcass decomposes [ORS 601.090(7)].

Do you think they brought the body back sometime after the yard was searched and reburied it? Maybe there were obvious flies settling on an area that could draw attention to a section of the backyard?

Something caused GA and CA to search the back yard. They were suspicious of the yard for a reason.

Don't forget about the "strange, suspicious depression near the swimming pool" noted by the detectives - I'm sure GA and CA were aware of that too.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I have bamboo in my yard.....it's actually called miniature bamboo although it is about 35 feet tall......the canes are small though. I'm an avid gardner, quite tall for a woman at 5'8" and very fit.....won't tell ya my age but........basically, I can't dig the bamboo up. Hubby has a major struggle doing it. Point is....I don't think KC was digging up bamboo.

It has running roots doesn't it? I can't get it to grow for diddly........

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Longtime lurker here, and just had to post about the lime. This is very interesting to me because when we lived on a farm if we had to bury an animal we always had to use hydrated lime to sanitize the remains and TO KEEP THE FLIES DOWN.

Here is some info from OSU about this:

It is legal to bury animal mortalities on your farm if certain requirements are met and specific recommendations are followed. The bottom of the hole must be dry (not in a water table). The dead animal should be covered with hydrated lime, and then covered with at least 4’ of soil mounded up to allow for settling as the carcass decomposes [ORS 601.090(7)].

Do you think they brought the body back sometime after the yard was searched and reburied it? Maybe there were obvious flies settling on an area that could draw attention to a section of the backyard?



Don't forget about the "strange, suspicious depression near the swimming pool" noted by the detectives - I'm sure GA and CA were aware of that too.

That is EXACTLY what I think !

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Longtime lurker here, and just had to post about the lime. This is very interesting to me because when we lived on a farm if we had to bury an animal we always had to use hydrated lime to sanitize the remains and TO KEEP THE FLIES DOWN.

Here is some info from OSU about this:

It is legal to bury animal mortalities on your farm if certain requirements are met and specific recommendations are followed. The bottom of the hole must be dry (not in a water table). The dead animal should be covered with hydrated lime, and then covered with at least 4’ of soil mounded up to allow for settling as the carcass decomposes [ORS 601.090(7)].

Do you think they brought the body back sometime after the yard was searched and reburied it? Maybe there were obvious flies settling on an area that could draw attention to a section of the backyard?



Don't forget about the "strange, suspicious depression near the swimming pool" noted by the detectives - I'm sure GA and CA were aware of that too.

BTW......:Welcome-12-june:

 

[shivs]

This happened where I live. I wish they would continue to search at the landfil.


http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=8097854

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35189

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Longtime lurker here, and just had to post about the lime. This is very interesting to me because when we lived on a farm if we had to bury an animal we always had to use hydrated lime to sanitize the remains and TO KEEP THE FLIES DOWN.

Here is some info from OSU about this:

It is legal to bury animal mortalities on your farm if certain requirements are met and specific recommendations are followed. The bottom of the hole must be dry (not in a water table). The dead animal should be covered with hydrated lime, and then covered with at least 4’ of soil mounded up to allow for settling as the carcass decomposes [ORS 601.090(7)].

Do you think they brought the body back sometime after the yard was searched and reburied it? Maybe there were obvious flies settling on an area that could draw attention to a section of the backyard?



Don't forget about the "strange, suspicious depression near the swimming pool" noted by the detectives - I'm sure GA and CA were aware of that too.

Welcome to WS, Unsolved! Hmmm..now that is quite interesting.

I don't think Caylee was brought back to the house tho. The A fam knows that LE is watching their every move and Casey didn't have time after she was "found out" and arrested.

 

[summermood32]

I can't believe they called the search off urggggggg! Says she is in the land field urgggggg!

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Welcome to WS, Unsolved! Hmmm..now that is quite interesting.

I don't think Caylee was brought back to the house tho. The A fam knows that LE is watching their every move and Casey didn't have time after she was "found out" and arrested.

But were they watching GA and LA? A half decomposed body could be put in plastic bags and brought back in a suitcase very easily. This is rather gross, but there really would not be much left after all the time and the heat. It kind of "melts" into liquids with heat.

They have been on a number of trips right? LA has also.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

This happened where I live. I wish they would continue to search at the landfil.


http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=8097854

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35189

Wow. What a case!

I want them to continue searching for Caylee everywhere they see fit to search including the landfills. While it is a difficult task, it isn't impossible.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

But were they watching GA and LA? A half decomposed body could be put in plastic bags and brought back in a suitcase very easily. This is rather gross, but there really would not be much left after all the time and the heat. It kind of "melts" into liquids with heat.

They have been on a number of trips right? LA has also.

Too risky. Not going to happen, imo.

 

[summermood32]

The dr. on nancy said animals would of ate her and that bones would be scattered about!