Nancy Grace 9/16/09.

[LaLaw2000]

I just had to break my resolution of not watching NG ever again. I watched the part with Ronald in it. Something is way off with him tonight, IMO. He appeared very stiff and I also saw apprehension in his eyes. I think he knows things are going to start popping just as AH says they will.

I do not know whose idea the suit was, but I was not impressed at all. That is not Ronald's persona. I have to say that attempting to clean him up image-wise now will not work. He has said what he has said, and contradicted himself way too much as it is. No, not impressed at all.

I really do not understand why NG has Ronald and his lawyer on at all. They say nothing of value and it was not to get Haleigh's face back on tv because NG was going to report on the case tonight anyway. In other words, what did he accomplish tonight except looking as if he were on his way to a funeral in that suit?

JMO, MOO

 

[Donjeta]

I didn't have him down as the suit and tie kind of person, judging by his usual style in all the photos and newsclips we've seen, and seeing how he was dressed in his own wedding and all, so the suit seems to me like he's overdoing it a bit. You know, "Yes, Miss Nancy, there's a relative in jail but we dress up in a tie and disassociate ourselves of them, we don't ask questions about him, and apparently we don't think about him at all, although he's got a hefty bond and the word on the street is he might know something about our daughter going missing..." I don't know what to think? Why does he go on television to say he's got nothing to say?

If it was my daughter, I would be all over the phone trying to talk to all Tommy's relatives and get information out of them. Misty took a RO against Tommy but there's nothing to keep Ron and Misty from talking to the other Croslins or Tommy's friends.

Ronald saying that he doesn't think it's necessary to try and have Misty hypnotized once more so she might help get to the bottom of this again doesn't really jive with the idea that he arranged it all to get information from her. She didn't go under hypnosis and he didn't get any information out of that session, so why is it not necessary to try again now?

 

[Emeralgem]

For those that watched NG tonight, I would like to know your opinion of Ron's behaviour. My feelings were that he was either

stoned
or
had been crying

What do ya'all think?

I have seen interviews when he looked like he was stoned, but I didn't think he looked stoned in that interview last night..Stonefaced maybe since I didn't detect any smirks.. But IF he had been crying, I suspect he has a good reason...Personally, I thought he looked fearful and scared.....JMO

 

[Donjeta]

JMO but I wouldn't think much of his lawyer if he agreed to appear with his client on Nancy Grace if said client was stoned. Then again his other lawyer released the weird video of him.

 

[flbeachkimmie]

:loser:

A boutonnière?

You mean the button he had on with his missing daughter's picture on it?

ETA - A picture. This screenshot was taken off the youtube video that Patty was kind enough to put up for us. (Thanks Patty)

It is clearly a button with HaLeigh's picture.

I stand corrected. I apologize. It sure looked like a big pink flower to me. I can see it now. So sorry.:loser:

 

[lil momma]

JMO but I wouldn't think much of his lawyer if he agreed to appear with his client on Nancy Grace if said client was stoned. Then again his other lawyer released the weird video of him.

bbm

Donjeta, ITA!

About the bolded, that video was a strange one for sure. IMO, in that video, yes RC was stoned, that pause, that did it for me. Totally forgot what he was saying, just blanking out.....

 

[Baznme]

Really! Did you watch Nancy Grace interview Haleigh's mother??????????????

You're right, lonetraveler. I didn't like that display either. I'm finding it hard to believe that she is buying what RC is giving her on her show. She wants answers, yet she handles him with kid gloves........seems so anyways.

 

[CeeKer]

I refuse to watch NG, but judging from the posts, only one word comes to my mind:

Entry Word: equivocate

Function: verb

Text: to avoid giving a definite answer or position
<the candidate equivocated as long as he could on controversial issues>

Synonyms: fudge, hedge, pussyfoot

Related Words: dodge, duck, evade, sidestep, skirt; bypass, circumvent; cavil, quibble

Phrases: beat around (or about) the bush, dance around, hem and haw

http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/equivocating

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Make that two words... my second one is "why"?

Re: My BBM of the first "text" definition

Although I realize some people believe RC has something directly/indirectly to do with his daughter being missing (and the operative word is "believe" until we have "facts") ... If he truly doesn't know what happened, or what's in Misty's mind re hypnosis, or the Croslin's minds, how can he be expected to know the answers to questions he's asked when he isn't the person involved, or has no knowledge of the situation....IMO he may "avoid giving a definite answer or position" because he just plain doesn't know the definite answer... Not to mention every word he utters is put under a microscope...

He's not the Croslin's, he's not Misty, he's the father of a missing girl he loves dearly, on that he's spoken many times. IMO He comes across somewhat clueless to me because, until I have facts, I believe he is clueless.

And since I know the rebutal will be... he's in control of Misty, he should make her do more tests, etc. IMO Misty can hold her own and don't think for one minute RC controls her. I still believe Misty and RC's marriage is to keep her close or possibly to negate statutory rape charges that would have taken the focus off Haleigh, or because there is genuine affection there.

I also believe after watching NG for years that she has genuine affection for RC. True she is more careful after the Duckett case, but NG can't hide contempt even when she's being "careful". Case in point any time CS has been on her show... And I think she'd bite off her tongue before she closed an interview sending prayers specifically to a person she holds in contempt...

GRACE: Well, Ronald, as we say good night, I want you to know regardless, our thoughts and prayers are still with you and with Haleigh.


Just my opinion tho.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/16/ng.01.html

 

[Donjeta]

It is possible that he doesn't know the answers but in that case it doesn't make much sense to me that he thinks "it's not necessary" to try the hypnosis again or do whatever it takes to get Misty to yield the clues LE thinks she has got in her possession. If he didn't believe that the hypnosis would work on Misty he'd have said that he thinks it's "not useful" but "not necessary" indicates to me that he does not need the information that could be gotten out of her that way. But of course he needs it, he's still got a daughter missing! Alternatively, it might not be necessary for him because he's got some other way of knowing what the hypnosis would reveal.

 

[SondraK]

I realize I am in a minority here,BUT it makes my heart hurt to read all the negative posts criticizing what he wears, everything he says, everything he doesn't say, how he moves his eyes, etc. etc.

This man may truly be guilty, and I think it is fine to explore that. I just think all the little jabs and snarky (love that word) remarks are cruel.

I have often been accused of siding with the underdog, and that may be what I am doing. I just feel a little fairness until the facts are known would be nice. JMO

 

[Lexington]

Actually, I thought he looked like a defendant on trial.

And a very constipated defendant at that. I wonder why he allowed himself to be dressed in the monkey suit. This is not the person he is, so why is he attempting to alter his persona. He must be getting very nervous for some reason and is therefore following his attorney's advice to the letter. I wanted Miss Nancy to ask him why he doesn't take the private battery of tests that Misty agreed (or was forced) to take, as they might add clarity (or additional information) to the details surrounding Haleigh's disappearance. Miss Nancy will never ask that question and Mr. Croslin's attorney will not allow him to answer it. I guess the reason for Mr. Croslin's appearance on the Miss Nancy show tonight was to show off his new suit.

 

[lorann]

I have seen interviews when he looked like he was stoned, but I didn't think he looked stoned in that interview last night..Stonefaced maybe since I didn't detect any smirks.. But IF he had been crying, I suspect he has a good reason...Personally, I thought he looked fearful and scared.....JMO

I didn't watch NG until the rerun and I had already read what was posted on this site. We have seen many times how lawyers dress their clients up, usually for court appearances. And maybe the lawyer is allowing these interviews with nothing actually being said as practice. To manipulate a future jury pool? Stoned? I am not really that good to pick up on that due to experiences or lack of. I don't say this because I believe he is innocent of any knowledge. He is on national TV in a suit, his every move is being watched by the whole country, I think the strange mouth movements are simply being nervous.

 

[CeeKer]

It is possible that he doesn't know the answers but in that case it doesn't make much sense to me that he thinks "it's not necessary" to try the hypnosis again or do whatever it takes to get Misty to yield the clues LE thinks she has got in her possession. If he didn't believe that the hypnosis would work on Misty he'd have said that he thinks it's "not useful" but "not necessary" indicates to me that he does not need the information that could be gotten out of her that way. But of course he needs it, he's still got a daughter missing! Alternatively, it might not be necessary for him because he's got some other way of knowing what the hypnosis would reveal.

I hear what you're saying... "not necessary" was an odd choice of words. Maybe, just throwing things out I think might be possible, "not necessary" is because whatever Misty was holding back has now come out with the arrest of her brother or involved her family. Or Misty has said "you make me do that and I swear I'll run...". Or maybe he truly believes Misty, right or wrong, and feels that it's no use to run these non-perfect tests on a person with her messed up way of thinking (for lack of better words).

Personally, there are times I want to stomp Misty to the ground to get answers, but she's a tough girl IMO. She's used to being stomped on and my opinion is that would just make her run or dig her heels in more... Maybe Ron is just handling Misty in a way he thinks might get her to trust him and get the truth out. I don't know...

 

[Emeralgem]

Re: My BBM of the first "text" definition

Although I realize some people believe RC has something directly/indirectly to do with his daughter being missing (and the operative word is "believe" until we have "facts") ... If he truly doesn't know what happened, or what's in Misty's mind re hypnosis, or the Croslin's minds, how can he be expected to know the answers to questions he's asked when he isn't the person involved, or has no knowledge of the situation....IMO he may "avoid giving a definite answer or position" because he just plain doesn't know the definite answer... Not to mention every word he utters is put under a microscope...

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Strange he doesn't avoid giving definite answers or positions on certain subjects even though he claims he was at work and not at the MH the night Haleigh disappeared...
Two specific incidents that come to mind are...where the beds were located and positioned that night and who was and who wasn't at the mobile home that night..
Wonder WHY he didn't avoid giving information in reference to those questions... If he really was at work, he wouldn't have any absolute knowledge of those things...JMO...

 

[SoSueMe]

September 16, 2009
Nancy Grace

YouTube - Nancy 9/16/09 Haleigh Part 1


YouTube - Nancy 9/16/09 Haleigh Part 2

Wow. Not one plea for HaLeigh from Ronald. Not even a "If you're out there baby..." Interesting. Why did he even go on NG?

 

[CeeKer]

And a very constipated defendant at that. I wonder why he allowed himself to be dressed in the monkey suit. This is not the person he is, so why is he attempting to alter his persona. He must be getting very nervous for some reason and is therefore following his attorney's advice to the letter. I wanted Miss Nancy to ask him why he doesn't take the private battery of tests that Misty agreed (or was forced) to take, as they might add clarity (or additional information) to the details surrounding Haleigh's disappearance. Miss Nancy will never ask that question and Mr. Croslin's attorney will not allow him to answer it. I guess the reason for Mr. Croslin's appearance on the Miss Nancy show tonight was to show off his new suit.

In my opinion that's an unfair assessment. When the other parent was dressed and "made up" for national TV I don't think it would have been fair to criticize her for "attempting to alter her persona" either or posting the makeover pics on her myspace. Both parents were probably advised by their lawyers and why have a lawyer if you choose not to listen to their advice. Picking on one parent for something both have done often leads to unnecessary contention IMO.

Also, when RC was on TV in a wrinkled shirt, the comments on the net were also as critical and mean so I guess he just can't please everyone, so why not his attorney?

 

[Malesherbes]

Actually, I thought he looked like a defendant on trial.

They can dress him up like little lord fauntleroy for all I care, but it speaks volumes for me that Misty wont take anymore tests because HE does not think its necessary-

GRACE: Do you believe that she will try again to undergo hypnosis in order to clear her mind regarding that evening?

CUMMINGS: I`m not sure. I don`t think so.

GRACE: Why?

CUMMINGS: Because I don`t believe that it`s necessary.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/16/ng.01.html

 

[Dee10]

Re: My BBM of the first "text" definition

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And since I know the rebutal will be... he's in control of Misty, he should make her do more tests, etc. IMO Misty can hold her own and don't think for one minute RC controls her.

Thank you for your post, however I have to disagree. The Greta interview was the main interview that clearly showed Ron was in control of Misty to me. Even the interview last night showed Ron was in control IMO with the answers that are bolded.

GRACE: Now, let me ask you. Back to you, Ronald Cummings. You say that no more communications with Misty Croslin`s family. What is Misty Croslin telling you? Is there any possibility that she left the home that evening and hasn`t told you?

CUMMINGS: If there is a possibility of it, I don`t know anything about it.

GRACE: Do you believe that she will try again to undergo hypnosis in order to clear her mind regarding that evening?

CUMMINGS: I`m not sure. I don`t think so.

GRACE: Why?

CUMMINGS: Because I don`t believe that it`s necessary.

GRACE: Back out to Ronald Cummings. Ronald, you said that -- you just told us that her going under hypnosis is not necessary. Since she has flunked polygraphs don`t you want to get to the bottom of what happened.

CUMMINGS: Of course I want to get to the bottom of what happened, Miss Nancy. But I don`t know if hypnosis is going to do it. They`ve already tried to hypnotize.

GRACE: Are you of the mind that you should try anything?

CUMMINGS: Absolutely. If that`s what we need to do, then that`s what we can do.

If Ron would answer NG with something like "I or we talk with Misty all the time going over the timeline and trying to trigger her memory, we talk/have talked for hours about this", would be better than "I don't know, I was at work", "I don't know I wasn't there". If he was trying to help, he would be taking to LE every chance he got and we know from LE statements they had wanted to talk with him and weren't successful until just recently. It can't be a time factor as he is not working or searching, so why was he stalling LE? Does it prove guilt "no", but I am at a loss; how anyone could not at least consider this suspicious? Take a poly Ron (you pick the person)raying:, I would love to see anyone who needs to be cleared - CLEARED.

 

[CeeKer]

Wow. Not one plea for HaLeigh from Ronald. Not even a "If you're out there baby..." Interesting. Why did he even go on NG?

Because if he didn't "show his face" some would be saying he's hiding something possibly? When he wasn't appearing on TV during the abuse allegations some on the net were insinuating he had something to hide. Again no matter what he does, it doesn't satisfy everyone.*

Regarding "Not one plea for HaLeigh from Ronald". I think this is an unfair statement as both parents have gone on TV at one time or another and failed to mention HaLeigh. IRRC Ron's pleas outnumber CS's by far. But again I really don't think it's fair to criticize or compare the parents in this way, it only causes tit for tat.

*Also IIRC when he wasn't on TV some thought he should have his face on TV even if he had nothing new to say just for the national exposure

 

[Emeralgem]

Because if he didn't "show his face" some would be saying he's hiding something possibly? When he wasn't appearing on TV during the abuse allegations some on the net were insinuating he had something to hide. Again no matter what he does, it doesn't satisfy everyone.

Regarding "Not one plea for HaLeigh from Ronald". I think this is an unfair statement as both parents have gone on TV at one time or another and failed to mention HaLeigh. IRRC Ron's pleas outnumber CS's by far. But again I really don't think it's fair to criticize or compare the parents in this way, it only causes tit for tat.

No tit for tat here...Personally, I prefer he not plea to some imaginary person for Haleigh's return when he knows full well that he is the one responsible for whatever it is that happened to Haleigh...JMO..