NANCY GRACE - Tuesday, 12/23/08

[gogrannypop]

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered, but Nancy Grace has mentioned several different times about her being a crime victim, and my husband and I have been wondering what happened to her...anyone know?? TIA

Her fiancee was murdered. first time poster.

 

[DuchessJules22]

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered, but Nancy Grace has mentioned several different times about her being a crime victim, and my husband and I have been wondering what happened to her...anyone know?? TIA

If I remember it correctly, about 20 years ago, Nancy's then finance was shot and killed during an attempted robbery. That's the reason why she switched her major in college from English to Law and the rest is history.

 

[cyberborg]

Didn't they take a whole tree from the crime scene?Was that the same tree the meter reader was talking about in august?

The tree, the whole tree and, nothing but the tree so help me......

Don't know. Probably.

 

[impatientredhead]

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered, but Nancy Grace has mentioned several different times about her being a crime victim, and my husband and I have been wondering what happened to her...anyone know?? TIA

Her fiance was murdered if I remember correctly.

 

[elfie]

That's the first I heard!

Knowing NG though, someone probably stole her parking spot :crazy:

It was a very sad case. I think her fiance was murdered.

 

[bessie]

SMoss says if you caused the funeral, you do not go!

Bravo! I knew I liked that woman.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered, but Nancy Grace has mentioned several different times about her being a crime victim, and my husband and I have been wondering what happened to her...anyone know?? TIA

The man she was engaged to was murdered.

Not her husband now

 

[Noway]

Hmmm ... just read on another thread that an expert said you would get fully skeletonized remains two weeks after death. That is hard to believe. No mention of whether being in garbage bag would delay decomp.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3094379#post3094379
Post #262, by Friday

It's only two weeks for complete skeletonization of a child's body in an Orlando summer, per CNN forensics specialist last week. Unbelievable, but that's what he said.

 

[FloridaKatz]

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered, but Nancy Grace has mentioned several different times about her being a crime victim, and my husband and I have been wondering what happened to her...anyone know?? TIA

Before NG was a lawyer, she was engaged to a guy that was murdered. One of the reasons she became a prosecutor.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Her fiancee was murdered. first time poster.

That's sad.I did not know that.

 

[impatientredhead]

Hmmm ... just read on another thread that an expert said you would get fully skeletonized remains two weeks after death. That is hard to believe. No mention of whether being in garbage bag would delay decomp.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3094379#post3094379
Post #262, by Friday

It's only two weeks for complete skeletonization of a child's body in an Orlando summer, per CNN forensics specialist last week. Unbelievable, but that's what he said.

the bag would slow it down as would the water if she was indeed under water, if she was in a shallow grave it would slow down even more

If the circumstances were right I think a 35lb could be skeletonized in 14 days. That would be 14 high heat days and the body exposed on the ground (insects do most of the work).

 

[PassTheMotrin]

I found the answer to my own question:

Forensic anthropologists are experienced osteologists. Forensic anthropologists usually hold a doctorate degree (Ph.D.); but many have a Master's degree (MA) in anthropology; and only in rare cases do some hold a Bachelor's degree (BA)--these forensic anthropologists typically have years of extensive training, nonetheless.

Forensic anthropologists with advanced (graduate) degrees usually (but not always) work in an academic setting--at a college or university. This employment setting involves teaching courses, conducting research, and providing service--such as forensic consultation services. Other employment settings for forensic anthropologists can include work in laboratories (FBI, state bureaus of investigation, or private firms), or medical examiner/coroner facilities nationwide and worldwide.

Forensic pathologists are medical doctors, physicians, with a specialization in forensic pathology. Forensic pathologists perform autopsies (examinations of people who have died) in the endeavor to establish the cause of death. Causes of death may be classified different ways such as natural, accidental, suicidal, homicidal, etc.

Whereas the forensic anthropologist's general focus in on bones, the forensic pathologist's general focus in on soft tissue (including organs and body fluid analyses). Forensic pathologists hold a doctor of medicine degree (MD), which requires a bachelor's degree with "pre-med" courses, four years of medical school, followed by a residency in pathology, then further training in forensic pathology. Not all doctors who perform autopsies are forensic pathologists; however, in complex cases, forensic pathologists are usually consulted.

http://people.uncw.edu/albertm/forensic.htm

Baez brought in Kathy Reichs, who is a forensic anthropologist, after the remains were found and determined to be skeletonized. The ME performs autopsies and also examine bones.

 

[panthera]

I thought examining bones fell under forensic anthropology, as opposed to performing an autopsy.

Thanks for posting the answer to your own question! It's much clearer now.

 

[PassTheMotrin]

Thanks for posting the answer to your own question! It's much clearer now.

I couldn't help myself, LOL. I do research for a living. I had to satisfy my own curiosity.

 

[lookieloo]

About them taking lots of things out of Caylee's room: didn't CA in the interview in her home last summer say she still washed Caylee's sheets every week? I never understood that as I thought most people did not want to wash things like that to keep the smell of the person on things. But if she washed the sheets, (and KC's pants), I wonder what else she cleaned and washed in all these months and that makes me wonder all the more that she knew and was trying to cover up evidence.

 

[Shar824]

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered, but Nancy Grace has mentioned several different times about her being a crime victim, and my husband and I have been wondering what happened to her...anyone know?? TIA

Grace has been a self-styled victims' advocate for 25 years, ever since her fiancé was killed during a robbery. His death prompted Grace to become a prosecutor in Georgia, which led to hosting Court TV's Closing Arguments.


http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/mediamix/2006-02-19-media-mix_x.htm

 

[elementary]

About them taking lots of things out of Caylee's room: didn't CA in the interview in her home last summer say she still washed Caylee's sheets every week? I never understood that as I thought most people did not want to wash things like that to keep the smell of the person on things. But if she washed the sheets, (and KC's pants), I wonder what else she cleaned and washed in all these months and that makes me wonder all the more that she knew and was trying to cover up evidence.

I wondered about that as well! First awful thought that came to mind was that Caylee was murdered on her bed.

 

[elfie]

I couldn't help myself, LOL. I do research for a living. I had to satisfy my own curiosity.

Thanks too. I didn't know the difference either.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered, but Nancy Grace has mentioned several different times about her being a crime victim, and my husband and I have been wondering what happened to her...anyone know?? TIA

Per Wikipedia:

"Allegations regarding fiancé's murder:
In March 2006 an article in the New York Observer suggested that in her book Objection!, Grace had embellished the story of her college fiancé's 1979 murder and the ensuing trial to make it better support her image. Grace has described the tragedy as the impetus for her career as a prosecutor and victims' rights advocate, and has often publicly referred to the incident. [24] The Observer researched the murder and found several apparent contradictions between the events and Grace's subsequent statements, including the following:

Her fiancé, Keith Griffin, was shot not at random by a stranger, but by a former coworker, Tommy McCoy.
McCoy did not have a prior criminal record and, rather than denying the crime, McCoy confessed the night of the murder.
The jury deliberated for a few hours, not days.
There was no ongoing string of appeals (McCoy's family did not want any). McCoy has only once filed a habeas petition, which was rejected.
Grace told the Observer she had not looked into the case in many years and "(tried) not to think about it". She said she made her previous statements about the case "with the knowledge I had."

 

[TakeNote]

Tonight on NG ...when I heard the meter reader say there was some kind of board over the log or next to the log or tree.....he said it just didnt look right.....what if KC did do a college? with pics of caylee and.......pics of stuff she found on the internet AFTER she said that Nanny took Caylee.....I keep thinking of the collage of photos with the Tiger, American Flag, The bridge, the Flower.....what if that was found at the crime scene??

and they also said that two pair of sun glasses were taken from the house.....maybe they fount a receit or some kind of tage or sticker....that she may have just thrown in with the bag when she cleaned out the car and trunk with poor little Caylee....

and they said that some toys were taken from the house.....per haps...they found a peice of a toy that they could connect to another toy at the house.....the dress for mama doll.....a puzzle....one of those pens that you use for those talking kid books....a wheel off of a car....stuff like that.....

Caylee also had a coloring book on the same day with papa and the yellow book....perhaps they found that or pages from that....crayons....

Perhaps toys from happy meals and the bag and receit were in the garbage bag in the trunk......