AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[stmichael]

So right now the DNA is being identified as an unknown male AND hasn't been run through CODIS yet?

Anyone have any decent links to this? TYIA

 

[stmichael]

No, it had his tools for the job at hand.

JMO

Yep. We call it a "kit"

duct tape, zip ties, tarp, plastic sheathing etc.

burglars also have kits but not as filled out as that 25L back pack was. Usually on their person and more compact. But expanding on that that's another odd detail, like the dude packed his cheapo backpack so full it was almost ripping at the seams (and could have ripped at the seams being a $15 WalMart pack).

 

[Cassie P]

We do know that he did enough homework and preparation to both dress the part and successfully execute the crime in which he set out to do, and that he had enough foresight and planning to evade detection and capture up to this point, but we don't know that he didn't anticipate that particular camera. More specifically, he could've anticipated it, and perhaps even knew about it and thought he had disabled it, but the fact that it was still working is what surprised him.

To me, it doesn't look like he really even cared much that it was working, because he didn't exactly flinch or freak out. He was pretty 'ho hum' in trying to ameliorate the inconvenience from what I saw.

JMO.

Yes I agree, he could have thought he disabled it. But didn't do his homework on how to exactly do that. But yes he did have the wherewithal to do all the things you list. And yes he seemed fairly nonchalant about all of it.

I just posted a comment about one stupid thing he did. Put a bite light in his mouth. With DNA rich saliva and cheek cells all over the light which he pulls out with his gloves.

But yes he did some things right, made some mistakes, and perhaps had some luck.

 

[loves2readhistory]

Was on Google news and saw WRONG info in a headline for PBS article. The headline has same wrong idea some posters on here had about the gloves found in the field and sent for DNA analysis.
The headline said the DNA matched the suspect at the front door—THAT IS WRONG INFO. The GLOVES look like the gloves the person was wearing at the front door.
The story does not make the same wrong connection.
I sent an email to PBS comments to correct==
Just validation that even reputable news media can make mistakes to get attention—whether it was deliberate (I hope not) or not—it is still wrong!

DNA from glove found near Guthrie home appears to match masked suspect

The glove, discovered in a field beside a road, was sent for DNA testing. The FBI said in a statement that it received preliminary results Saturday and was awaiting official confirmation.

www.pbs.org

 

[WizPro]

FYI: Right now. Robins R-44 Helicopter. Related??

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I do wonder whether the backpack was full because he had burgled other premises before reaching Nancys? However, imo the backpack did not seem heavy and seemed to have a bulky item in it.

He might have had a tarp in it as well as whatever he used to smash the back yard light.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Was on Google news and saw WRONG info in a headline for PBS article. The headline has same wrong idea some posters on here had about the gloves found in the field and sent for DNA analysis.
The headline said the DNA matched the suspect at the front door—THAT IS WRONG INFO. The GLOVES look like the gloves the person was wearing at the front door.
The story does not make the same wrong connection.
I sent an email to PBS comments to correct==
Just validation that even reputable news media can make mistakes to get attention—whether it was deliberate (I hope not) or not—it is still wrong!

DNA from glove found near Guthrie home appears to match masked suspect

The glove, discovered in a field beside a road, was sent for DNA testing. The FBI said in a statement that it received preliminary results Saturday and was awaiting official confirmation.

www.pbs.org

Even NYT had something wrong and I did the same thing - sent them the correction and cited LE as the source. JMO

 

[SMK777]

Was on Google news and saw WRONG info in a headline for PBS article. The headline has same wrong idea some posters on here had about the gloves found in the field and sent for DNA analysis.
The headline said the DNA matched the suspect at the front door—THAT IS WRONG INFO. The GLOVES look like the gloves the person was wearing at the front door.
The story does not make the same wrong connection.
I sent an email to PBS comments to correct==
Just validation that even reputable news media can make mistakes to get attention—whether it was deliberate (I hope not) or not—it is still wrong!

DNA from glove found near Guthrie home appears to match masked suspect

The glove, discovered in a field beside a road, was sent for DNA testing. The FBI said in a statement that it received preliminary results Saturday and was awaiting official confirmation.

www.pbs.org

Thanks for contacting them. You can't trust the news these days.

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

Even if the WiFi wasn’t working (and it obviously was since the video footage we’ve seen was uploaded to Google servers) the doorbell would still have power. In fact the Nest can locally store up to an hour of footage if it looses connection to the internet.

It does appear to have been battery operated as well BUT we know another camera apparently detected motion several minutes after the doorbell had been disconnected so it doesn’t sound like wifi or power could have been cut.

@jtfolden I wonder if it is simple as the invaders had missed the doorbell cam in their efforts to avoid or subdue the home’s security system. Perhaps the cam was older, maybe something NG used mainly to see who was at the front door. (The NYT reports NG as saying she mainly wanted it to show her wildlife passing by. On a Nextdoor post) I’ve also read many homes have patchwork systems, added to over the years and independent of each other. Perps may have thought they’d taken care of security devices and then stumbled on the door bell cam, hidden deep in the entrance alcove. A shock. Especially when they planned to exit out front door.

 

[Cassie P]

Yep. We call it a "kit"

duct tape, zip ties, tarp, plastic sheathing etc.

burglars also have kits but not as filled out as that 25L back pack was. Usually on their person and more compact. But expanding on that that's another odd detail, like the dude packed his cheapo backpack so full it was almost ripping at the seams (and could have ripped at the seams being a $15 WalMart pack).

So in your opinion was this guy kitted out more for a kidnapping or robbery given how much stuff he had in the back back?

 

[cady]

Was on Google news and saw WRONG info in a headline for PBS article. The headline has same wrong idea some posters on here had about the gloves found in the field and sent for DNA analysis.
The headline said the DNA matched the suspect at the front door—THAT IS WRONG INFO. The GLOVES look like the gloves the person was wearing at the front door.
The story does not make the same wrong connection.
I sent an email to PBS comments to correct==
Just validation that even reputable news media can make mistakes to get attention—whether it was deliberate (I hope not) or not—it is still wrong!

DNA from glove found near Guthrie home appears to match masked suspect

The glove, discovered in a field beside a road, was sent for DNA testing. The FBI said in a statement that it received preliminary results Saturday and was awaiting official confirmation.

www.pbs.org

it was one glove found

 

[Stunned]

I'm having a real uncomfortable feeling about searchers just throwing their gloves away. WTH. Were these searchers LE?

I hope they weren't just letting anybody search!

 

[Bluewing3102]

FYI: Right now. Robins R-44 Helicopter. Related??
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It's linked to a private owner and is currently flying at 6,000 ft. I don't think it's related. JMO

 

[jtfolden]

I’m

i think more likely he was surprised that the camera was showing signs it was still working because he thought it had been disabled earlier. JMHO

…but there’s zero evidence he did anything prior to disable it. It appears to be battery operated and worked over WiFi.

If he had the forethought to disable it he had to do they run on battery as well. And even if the WiFi wasn’t working, that would t cause the doorbell to power down. In fact the Nest records up to an hour of video locally.

 

[Cassie P]

I do wonder whether the backpack was full because he had burgled other premises before reaching Nancys? However, imo the backpack did not seem heavy and seemed to have a bulky item in it.

So your theory is that this guy was hitting more than one house that night and carrying his loot with him from house to house? So he was on foot?

 

[Diddian]

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Yep. We call it a "kit"

duct tape, zip ties, tarp, plastic sheathing etc.

burglars also have kits but not as filled out as that 25L back pack was. Usually on their person and more compact. But expanding on that that's another odd detail, like the dude packed his cheapo backpack so full it was almost ripping at the seams (and could have ripped at the seams being a $15 WalMart pack).

I agree that burglars and other criminals who invade homes often carry a kit; however, IMO in this case, the backpack looks evenly stuffed. With duct tape, zip ties, tarp or plastic sheathing, and presumably some tools (sledgehammer to hit floodlights, crowbar, maybe a screwdriver or two, a flashlight, and some small picks for getting through locks), I’d expect the outside of the backpack would look irregular from the shape of those various things stuffed inside. But it doesn’t.

 

[birdbox]

We do know that he did enough homework and preparation to both dress the part and successfully execute the crime in which he set out to do, and that he had enough foresight and planning to evade detection and capture up to this point, but we don't know that he didn't anticipate that particular camera. More specifically, he could've anticipated it, and perhaps even knew about it and thought he had disabled it, but the fact that it was still working is what surprised him.

To me, it doesn't look like he really even cared much that it was working, because he didn't exactly flinch or freak out. He was pretty 'ho hum' in trying to ameliorate the inconvenience from what I saw.

JMO.

To be fair a good number of murders, kidnappers evade detection as details of case a pieced together. Brian Laundry, Scott Peterson, Casey Anthony, etc. I dont think any of them were criminal masterminds, but it just goes to show us it takes time and there is a process.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Yep. We call it a "kit"

duct tape, zip ties, tarp, plastic sheathing etc.

burglars also have kits but not as filled out as that 25L back pack was. Usually on their person and more compact. But expanding on that that's another odd detail, like the dude packed his cheapo backpack so full it was almost ripping at the seams (and could have ripped at the seams being a $15 WalMart pack).

Thank you. Makes total sense for his "kit" to include duct tape, zip ties, plastic sheathing, tarp etc. That would certainly fill that 25 L backpack.

It is puzzling that he seemed to have over-stuffed this very cheap backpack and took the chance of it ripping from being so over-filled.

But, he was wearing that crazy cheap holster, too, which also puzzled me.

JMO

 

[WizPro]

It's linked to a private owner and is currently flying at 6,000 ft. I don't think it's related. JMO

Private owner is: SOLEIL HELICOPTERS LLC according to flightaware.com. N283TY. Possibly training flight and not related.

 

[Eli9]

Yep. We call it a "kit"

duct tape, zip ties, tarp, plastic sheathing

etc.

burglars also have kits but not as filled out as that 25L back pack was. Usually on their person and more compact. But expanding on that that's another odd detail, like the dude packed his cheapo backpack so full it was almost ripping at the seams (and could have ripped at the seams being a $15 WalMart pack).

BBM


We don't seem to belong to the same clubs but I'm here to learn and take notes so carry on!