AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[tomatotraveler]

Until the sheriff got the dna results back Imo he wasn't sure about clearing the family.

Which is totally fair.

I’m not a huge fan of him being pearl-clutchy that people may have still been speculating about this before then, though.
A HUGE percentage of murders, kidnappings, assaults are done by someone known to the victim. That’s not a dig on the Guthries; that’s just statistics. Unless and until he SAID they had cleared them, I’m not sure what he expected. Of COURSE when something like this happens people will look at the family.

 

[Ghostwheel]

How'd they get to 40 people? My best guess is it's from the one known piece of identifiable evidence - perhaps there were 40 backpacks sold to men at Walmarts in the region within the last x months. IMO.

My guess would be the craptastic holster. No one who appreciates a gun would own one of those, IMHO.

 

[MagicalMysteryTour]

I was trying to figure out how to describe his manner on the footage-best I can do is “laid back”. Not what I would expect to see, but that might just be my own stereotypical thought process. I expect someone that looks more sure of themselves, determined, a little quicker with their steps and process. The lantana is a head scratcher.

Lantana has stems which are square shaped in cross section so it could be that the Perp used it to poke behind the nest camera and release it from the bracket. The battery powered nest cam has the release button located behind the device on the upper section.

Lantana also has hairy leaves and stems, so it could also be that he used these parts of the plants to aid with grip.

This doesn't mean he knew about these qualities of the plant though as it looks like he grabbed the first thing he came across rather than trawling through the garden carefully selecting a plant for its properties.

 

[fridaybaker]

I don’t really take anything this sheriff says at face value, who knows what he meant.

Yes! I think there are likely many phrases used that can be used interchangeably, but also, in a more formal situation, be distinct.

From what I’ve seen, for a person/persons to be officially declared “cleared”, it would mean that the crime has actually been solved. However, there is also “everyday” type of talk, which is what I perceive this sheriff is doing at this stage. Meaning that they are no longer looking right now at the family, who were a huge part of the initial focus, as people close to the victim always are. They’ve done their initial drill-down on those closest to the victim (family) and so far haven’t found anything. Hence, they are “cleared”.

 

[Arkay]

First thing I thought was that it’s a lie like everything else this person has written in an attempt to misdirect, obfuscate, and confuse.

Of course, no evidence pointing either way yet!

On the second or third letter they issued a threat (speculating toward Nancy) of what they would do if they didn't get their money. They shifted from observer of kidnappers to kidnapper. Total bs

Same.

It all sounds phony to me.

“Gee, I know about Nancy, down here south of the border, and I saw a guy, and I knew that was Nancy with him, and I want the reward for informing on him, but I can’t do it myself because I’ve been in trouble with the law so I don’t think they’ll give me the reward, but I really know who it is, just give me the money first though.”


I wish it were true somehow that somebody out there has seen Nancy alive and has genuine info, and contacts the FBI.

But this whole spectacle and writing to TMZ rather than contacting LE strikes me as 100% B.S.


Just my opinion.

 

[clearskies1]

The amount of LE hours going into this is incredible. Not complaining. JMO.

 

[birdbox]

Thanks for posting. This is interesting and what we all are saying. The Lantana guy is an amateur. And LE and FBI are hoping he's panicking. MO

Yep.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I know that. I am in NG’s neighborhood but we ALL say we live in Tucson, regardless of LE jurisdiction.

Exactly. Because basically you do live in Tucson, just over the city limits. But, good clarification as to why the Pima Co Sheriff is in charge.

 

[LRinCA]

The discussion about movie quotes has brought this to mind: the 2002 Beltway Sniper situation.

The person in charge of the investigation would say "caught like a duck in a noose" on camera.

At the time, my husband and I thought it was the strangest thing. Like code.

I just looked it up to try to remember more about it:


CBS News:

What does the phrase "caught like a duck in a noose" mean to the sniper?

Authorities are not revealing the context in which the sniper - if he is indeed the author of notes left for police - asked them to publicly say: "We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose."

Police Chief Charles Moose read that sentence aloud late Wednesday night, as part of his latest message to the sniper, adding: "We understand that hearing us say this is important to you."

Link:

'Like A Duck In A Noose'

What's The Significance Of Cryptic Message?

www.cbsnews.com

 

[HoveringWombats]

Until the sheriff got the dna results back Imo he wasn't sure about clearing the family.

JMO -

I'm trying to think of a scenario where DNA results clear (rather than implicate) someone. I feel like for it to be DNA that cleared them, they'd need to be quite confident that the DNA sample(s) they tested were from the actual guilty party, that they had DNA samples from all guilty parties, and none of those samples matched the person who they cleared, right? It's hard to prove a negative... IMO it was not DNA (or at least not solely DNA). But if it it was, it implies that they are quite far along in identifying the true guilty person(s).

 

[thefragile7393]

So the sheriff was working on the Nancy Guthrie/Savannah Guthrie case… arguably the biggest case of his career! Then his own brother dies, then he went to a division 1 basketball game sitting in the front row all within days of each other? Hmm , I’m wondering where his priorities lie ? I’m asking for a friend

he has people working on the care. He does not need to be present breathing down their necks. He can go to a game or out to eat or whatever. If something comes up it will be reported to him IMO. I’m not the biggest fan but the part about being sheriff means you don’t have to do all the work on a case yourself IMO

 

[birdbox]

The amount of LE hours going into this is incredible. Not complaining. JMO.

I think it's a powerful message that if anyone messes around with our innocent 84 year old, sweet, living alone, health riddled grandma's, the dogs will be unleashed on your @ss!. Not a bad message. I'd like to hope and think even without SG influence this horrible crime would have still garnered a huge response from the world to help bring her home.

 

[birdbox]

The discussion about movie quotes has brought this to mind: the 2002 Beltway Sniper situation.

The person in charge of the investigation would say "caught like a duck in a noose" on camera.

At the time, my husband and I thought it was the strangest thing. Like code.

I just looked it up to try to remember more about it:


CBS News:

What does the phrase "caught like a duck in a noose" mean to the sniper?

Authorities are not revealing the context in which the sniper - if he is indeed the author of notes left for police - asked them to publicly say: "We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose."

Police Chief Charles Moose read that sentence aloud late Wednesday night, as part of his latest message to the sniper, adding: "We understand that hearing us say this is important to you."

Link:

'Like A Duck In A Noose'

What's The Significance Of Cryptic Message?

www.cbsnews.com

I'll never comprehend the "taunting LE" thing with some criminals. Like let me get away with a crime, but send them weirdo letters until they figure out its me.

 

[submarine7]

The amount of LE hours going into this is incredible. Not complaining. JMO.

The pacemaker sniffer is so advanced that I've seen several experts not know what it is.

 

[clearskies1]

I think it's a powerful message that if anyone messes around with our innocent 84 year old, sweet, living alone, health riddled grandma's, the dogs will be unleashed on your @ss!. Not a bad message. I'd like to hope and think even without SG influence this horrible crime would have still garnered a huge response from the world to help bring her home.

I do not think as many resources would have been thrown at it but for the SG connection. But as I said, I'm not complaining.

 

[birdbox]

The pacemaker sniffer is so advanced that I've seen several experts not know what it is.

Yeah. Its not widely know. I only studied it because im in a PhD program for cybersecurity.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

I agree but Friday's events seemed too grand for absolutely nothing.

I agree. Federal warrants are not like your average warrant. You need specific and compelling reasons -- backed by the evidence you have at the time -- to search a property. With what is required in a federal warrant, we know that Friday's SWAT team and the extensive property search was not a mistake and the reasons they searched that property surely are still applicable.

Now, though, LE and FBI have additional DNA evidence from NG's property and from the gloves and likely Land Rover evidence -- and possibly matches at a gun store with the gun and the perp as well as possibly having an ID from their Walmart backpack search.

Well-said. Friday's events were too grand for absolutely nothing!

JMO

 

[Vaderman]

Every day there’s a new “suspect” on social media in this case. First it was TC, then some bandmate, then some electrician, then a couple of randos, and now it’s the Range Rover driver. Tomorrow it’ll be someone else. None of this is coming from law enforcement.

My favorite part is when these influencers confidently accuse a specific person, rack up views, and then quietly delete the post the second it doesn’t pan out, as if the damage they caused just disappears.

I’ve followed too many of these cases to count, and it almost always ends up being someone we’ve never heard of before.

Just be careful with this stuff.

I prefer the ones who quietly delete as opposed to the ones who dig their heels in and continue to insist upon their pet theories, facts be damned.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Yeah. Its not widely know. I only studied it because im in a PhD program for cybersecurity.

Oh, interesting, that's how you have such incredible expertise with cybersecurity. Thanks for educating all of us!

 

[BellaToothless]

On the second or third letter they issued a threat (speculating toward Nancy) of what they would do if they didn't get their money. They shifted from observer of kidnappers to kidnapper. Total bs

Do you have a source for this pls?