• #32,721
Any lab that does top level testing has a QA program where test parameters, equipment calubration, sample inputs, and results are peer reviewed by another knowledgeable individual. And the turnaround time for this lab in Florida is honestly very very fast. Everyone here wants the Guthrie family to have closure and justice. But these protocols exist for a reason.
 
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i agree. Not complaining at all I want to see this solved. But I do wonder if it's because of how heinous this was. Clearly a planned abduction. I know the guy they got on video seemed amateur, but I do wonder if he had one job which was to look for a camera and remove it. And clearly they're not amateurs because a million fbi agents are investigating and have not been successful yet.

Savannah looked rough yesterday. This whole thing is so damn sad I cannot even fathom if this was my mother. I think I'd be catatonic. I truly think that is also why so much is going into this and the whole world is caring about it. Not out of morbid curiosity but because we truly want justice and answers for the poor family😔. I cannot imagine if it goes unsolved… how does the family survive? I know even if it does get solved it is still horrible but having no closure would be truly unimaginable.
Agree. I don't think as many LE resources would have gone into this without the SG connection, but I also think the crime would not have been committed in the first place without the SG connection. I just think some things came together -- SG is a well known, well paid "local hero" of sorts and her mother lives alone in a basically unprotected house. So for a Tucson area person who is down on his luck, this would be a target. JMO.
 
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Does he not trust the FBI? Not necessarily the boots on the ground guys, but the higher ups? Don’t want to start political drama - don’t want to argue whether he should or shouldn’t - but it definitely could be a WHY he chose an independent lab in Florida. There’s been a lot of alleged scandal involving the FBI lately. Some say conspiracy. Some believe. Maybe he’s in the believe camp?

Again no politics please. Just tossing around possible explanations for the decision he made.
Good points. It would benefit the FBI to have good partnership with local LE to preclude wild accusations when this is resolved.
 
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dbm repeated
 
  • #32,726
Yes, and it wouldn't be the first time they've done that ?

Was also considering an employee or a friend of one.
Still think it might have been someone Nancy knew by sight at least and they knew she saw them (botched robbery, maybe, but am still leaning towards planned abduction); so they took her !
A crime with a personal element.
How sickening -- and frightening for her ! :mad:

There are some crimes that deserve the harshest penalties possible, and imo, kidnapping ranks right along with outright murder.

A survivor of an abduction might never be the same and at Nancy's age could cause her health to severely decline, even if released.
Still hoping she's alive !
Omo.
I still go back to that report discussed earlier in thread that an anonymous LE inside the investigation said the indoor cameras set up and pointing solely for safety/fall purposes were smashed before any of them could detect motio and stream. If it’s true it would have to be someone or associated with someone who had access throughout inside of NGs home. House cleaner, physical or occupational therapist etc. or distant family member. IMO

Nancy Guthrie Abduction Points to 'Inside Job': Chilling New Theory Emerges Surrounding Masked Man Behind Disappearance of 'Today' Host Savannah's Mom
 
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I'm not sure if there's been any discussion of the suspect's shoes. I went through the footage and grabbed a few screenshots. A couple of things stood out to me:

1. No visible laces
2. Flat heel/ molded platform sole
3. Traditional-style moc toe construction
4. Contrasting outsole, likely rubber
5. Toe spring (or bumper)
6. Non-leather material. Probably canvas or mesh.

I don't know how helpful it is, but the closest match I could find was the Carhartt Men's Haslett Moc Toe Boot in black canvas..

(FWIW, I used to sell shoes)
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Great attention to detail. I’m interested in the 3rd picture. I can’t make it out but It looks like a possible emblem/makers mark to me or is it possibly a scuff.
 

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  • #32,729
Yes, either mom/son or male female. There is family association in each raid
And both neighborhoods of the SWAT raids looked very nice.
MOO
 
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Correction: the live with Tricia is at 9:30cst
 
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Maybe all of these updates about the DNA results are intended to scare the perpetrator(s). Knowing that the FBI and LE will soon have their DNA--and continually hearing about it--will likely create enormous fear with the perps and they may make desperate phone calls or rush somewhere that would then give FBI and LE more information to use to get a conviction. MOO
I keep asking myself how I would feel if a video of my gloved hand was on national TV 24/7....but maybe the person who did this thinks that is cool or just does not care
 
  • #32,733
His priorities, off duty, could have been trying to breathe after his brother’s very recent death.

He’s not a savvy public speaker and I can understand some public frustration with him. I don’t however understand the sentiment that it should be open season on him. I don’t believe he deserves that. IMO
Thank you for this post. There have been many posts criticizing Sheriff Nanos and the FBI and I've resisted the urge to post this for quite some time.

According the the rules, Websleuths is "primarily pro-law enforcement." Here's the exact text.
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Members of Law Enforcement regularly read at WS. Generally they contact WS Admins when they register, but there is no requirement that they do so. Unless they ask us to, we do not publicly identify them, but all posters should be aware that public comments about illegal activity could bring them attention they may not want. WS receives subpoenas on a regular basis from various agencies. WS will comply with all valid subpoenas received."

Can we give it a rest? Please?
 
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So the sheriff was working on the Nancy Guthrie/Savannah Guthrie case… arguably the biggest case of his career! Then his own brother dies, then he went to a division 1 basketball game sitting in the front row all within days of each other? Hmm , I’m wondering where his priorities lie ? I’m asking for a friend
I really hope no one ever judges you as harshly if you went through the exact same scenario. I think we all owe him a little bit of grace.
 
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I really hope no one ever judges you as harshly if you went through the exact same scenario. I think we all owe him a little bit of grace.
Agreed… I’m tired of all the bashing of the sheriff.
 
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Updated
February 16, 2026, 9:54 PM EST

''What we know:​

  • FAMILY CLEARED AS SUSPECTS: All members of the Guthrie family have been cleared as possible suspects in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the Pima County sheriff said: "To suggest otherwise is not only wrong, it is cruel. The Guthrie family are victims plain and simple."
  • NEW FAMILY VIDEO: In a video on social media last night, "TODAY" co-anchor Savannah Guthrie addressed the person who took her mother, or who may know where she is, saying, "it is never too late to do the right thing."
  • NEW EVIDENCE: A glove containing DNA evidence that was recovered roughly 2 miles from Guthrie’s home appears consistent with a glove worn by a person seen in a doorbell camera video from the morning she disappeared, according to a source familiar with the investigation.
  • SUSPECT DETAILS: The FBI analyzed videos taken from Guthrie’s Tucson, Arizona, home that show a man who is 5’9” to 5’10” tall and wearing a black, 25-liter Ozark Trail Hiker Pack backpack tampering with her doorbell camera the morning she disappeared.
  • REWARD DOUBLED: The FBI has doubled the reward for information leading to an arrest or conviction to $100,000. Authorities have said they are combing through thousands of tips they have received from the public.''
 
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The “impeccable” LE source, whom AB had known for a decade, is the oddity here. If you supply details of a live, high-profile case to AB, you know exactly what’s going to happen.
True. AB appeared on Megyn Kelly's podcast and the two were talking about this matter. AB said something interesting - that the journalistic standard used to be 3 sources. But over time, the standard has changed based on the "value" of the source - that is, some sources within some contexts are much more reliable than others, Megyn gave as an example the director of the FBI as a high value source - and oftentimes now only ONE is considered adequate when using a "high value" source (not just for AB on her podcast, but for MSM as well).

It's too bad because even high value sources make mistakes (or are themselves reliant on sources that these journalists might consider "lesser value").

ETA: I cannot remember if "value" or "high value" were the precise words used, so consider that my paraphrasing since the general point still is made.
 
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Feb 16, 2026
With the search for Nancy Guthrie now in its third week, the Guthrie family – including all siblings and spouses – has been "cleared" as suspects in her disappearance, the Pima County sheriff said.
 
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I wonder if Nancy’s wallet was found in the house with all her credit and debit cards accounted for.
 
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I'm not sure if there's been any discussion of the suspect's shoes. I went through the footage and grabbed a few screenshots. A couple of things stood out to me:

1. No visible laces
2. Flat heel/ molded platform sole
3. Traditional-style moc toe construction
4. Contrasting outsole, likely rubber
5. Toe spring (or bumper)
6. Non-leather material. Probably canvas or mesh.

I don't know how helpful it is, but the closest match I could find was the Carhartt Men's Haslett Moc Toe Boot in black canvas..
Can you determine if these shoes look older and worn previously? Or new looking?
Are these shoes worn more for sports, leisure, work, outdoors, etc?
 
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