AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Han]

Don’t anyone read this and think it’s true. I’m just asking because I want clarity. Am I understanding that the glove DNA was not in codis but they haven’t said the DNA from inside the house is not in codis is that correct?
Again, I don’t know that this is true just looking to understand.

The sheriff said in an interview today the DNA found in the house is not in CODIS

 

[LetsSolvIt]

IMO, it's pretty worrisome that they are looking at a next door neighbor's camera so late in the game. This makes me concerned that they have missed a lot of opportunities to collect relevant evidence.

Also, most new cameras record to the cloud and if they have local recording they have a MicroSD card. I'm sure most of NG's neighbor's would have voluntarily provided access to pertinent recordings on day one. Unfortunately, by now both cloud and locally stored video have had opportunity to be overwritten and lost. You can not recover video on a SD card that had been overwritten. Deleted, yes probably, but not files which are already overwritten.

These neighbors may have been out of the country and were only recently able to check their video. Only an idea — speculation. JMO.

 

[Rush4087]

If anyone remembers the guy interviewed at least twice, who some people in this thread found a tad suspicious, and who was calling himself a “neighbour” while trying to push the blame on TC, there appears to be someone in Tucson with the same first name as him and whose last name relates to Friday night’s SWAT events. Could be complete coincidence, of course, but if so, it’s an interesting one all the same.

JMO

I must've missed the interviews. Does anybody have a link to one or both? Tia

 

[Ghostwheel]

IMO, the backpack may have been purchased at Walmart originally, but I feel suspect would have procured it 2nd hand…garage sale, thrift shop. I also feel this suspect and any others involved had no cellphones on them that night. I’m thinking if they did this case could possibly be solved by now. Too much for thought, (double masks, double gloves, mouth light, gun full backpack and again, probably no cell phones) they’re not gonna pick apparel from their personal closet….but I hope they did!

I swear, I see a cell phone peeking out of the right pocket between .05 and .06. does anyone else see it? What else might it be?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023590291765129405

 

[stmichael]

I think it’s just a lead they have to follow up on. They get names tied to the purchases and look at their DL photos and see a resemblance to the nest perp. It’s gum shoe detective work.

Sure I understand that. Just like I understand they have to test every disposable glove they find on miles of roadside even though chances are they are not linked at all. Both are stretches. But again, what purchases are they tying? Leads? Walmart universal pistol holsters? They don't even sell those in that color and the details of that holster is different. That universal nylon holster seen in the dark IR lit Nest footage can be over of dozens of models produced by multiple companies over decades. Looked like a yard sale holster to me. So they are tracking down guestimates at best.

 

[shonyakay]

I'm not liking those spots I'm seeing on lantana man's jacket where he is standing by the walkway without his backpack on.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279

 

[britinsussex]

A significant amount of snowbirds in that area. Simply could have been in another location at the time.

Very true! My parents retired in western North Carolina. They live on a mountain with 23 other homes. Only they and 6 other couples are full-time, year-round residents! Always BIG catch-up fest when the Floridians come back!

 

[tbgo]

The sheriff said in an interview today the DNA found in the house is not in CODIS

It wasn’t put in or they didn’t find a match?

 

[apeXperience]

The gun shop owner says they looked Hispanic in 80% of the photos with unusual names.

Such set of pictures is frequently used for solicitation of positive identification from potential witnesses:

• When you want to determine which if any of two or three persons of interest visited pawnshops or gun stores recently, you create a set of 30 to 50 photos including people who were not possibly in the area, sometimes with some made up names
• This is an investigative technique to weed out false positive and fabulation
• Potential Type II error is minimized by submitting the instrument (set of pictures) to multiple witnesses at about the same time
• Perhaps, multiple teams were canvassing the Tucson area with multiple copies of the instrument that same day

 

[ArabianLover]

So “The day she was reported missing a neighbor called Adult Protective Services,” he says. “They sent an investigator to check on her.” Sounds like after, but why did the neighbor report then?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023909355750650040

Am I the only one that finds this strange? Don’t the police usually come for a welfare check? Or if someone is missing?

 

[Ghostwheel]

I'm not liking those spots I'm seeing on lantana man's jacket where he is standing by the walkway without his backpack on.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279

Is this Lantana man? Look at the shoes. The mask seems different. The pockets on the pants not quite right. Are we sure it isn't someone else with the same ish wardrobe?

 

[Napoli]

During an active missing person investigation? When they immediately called in homicide detectives? Not directing this towards you. My brain just won't make it make sense. JMO, MOO, etc.

BLOOD! that would warrant an immediate call to homicide. IMO

 

[SRWCF]

Is this Lantana man? Look at the shoes. The mask seems different. The pockets on the pants not quite right. Are we sure it isn't someone else with the same ish wardrobe?

I think it's two different individuals. The guy without the backpack, his jacket looks like it has a design on it. Camouflage, maybe? The guy with the backpack, his jacket was different. No design. MOO.

 

[K.jill]

I'm not liking those spots I'm seeing on lantana man's jacket where he is standing by the walkway without his backpack on.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279

I am so curious about this pic. Did Le remove the gun and backpack so viewers can get a sense of his body type? Does he approach without the backpack at some point? Is the gun under his jacket? It does look like something rectangular is in his right pocket.
And no holes in the ski mask????

 

[jtfolden]

He didn't take the camera. I think he was startled to see the camera light go on as he approached and just wanted to disconnect it. I'm beginning to think they were at the wrong house.

What source do you have claiming the cameras wasn’t taken?

 

[shonyakay]

Is this Lantana man? Look at the shoes. The mask seems different. The pockets on the pants not quite right. Are we sure it isn't someone else with the same ish wardrobe?

Good point. That is the same jacket. The pants are the same color too.

 

[nycpizzaparty]

BLOOD! that would warrant an immediate call to homicide. IMO

Sad thought. I assumed the blood was coming directly from NG as it's her blood. But it's possible it was dripping from an attacker. It could have been brutal in the house

 

[SUNchips]

Is this Lantana man? Look at the shoes. The mask seems different. The pockets on the pants not quite right. Are we sure it isn't someone else with the same ish wardrobe?

I think this is the man who went inside while lantana man was watching the outside possibly. Which makes the possible spots on his jacket all the more concerning.

On the topic of potentially two perps at the house, does anyone think that the gloves could be from man #1 (let’s call him lantana man) and the unknown DNA could be from man #2 (inside man)? And that’s why the DNA wouldn’t match between the two? MOO

 

[britinsussex]

Am I the only one that finds this strange? Don’t the police usually come for a welfare check? Or if someone is missing?

I'm a hospice volunteer. Two years ago, I had a patient who chose to go into the hospital for hydration (there are different levels of Hospice care!) A neighbour called LE and APS to report that her friend had "disappeared". It became quite the event for my patient, who got a good laugh out of it!

 

[RayVon]

Is this Lantana man? Look at the shoes. The mask seems different. The pockets on the pants not quite right. Are we sure it isn't someone else with the same ish wardrobe?

I thought they looked like two different people in matching disguises. It would make sense to dress alike.

The porch guy looked stockier to me.