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Didn’t Brian Entin said on Monday the next 24-48 hours may be interesting? MOO bc I can’t remember where I saw that.

If so, interesting the polygraphs are happening 48 hrs ish from Mon.

MOO
 
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Brian Entin was just on NewsNation and said that they are doing the polygraphs to clear people, and have been doing them. He didn’t know exactly who or wouldn’t say.
 
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<snipped>
A Mexican security official who was not authorized to speak publicly told The New York Times that the F.B.I. had contacted authorities in the Mexican state of Sonora, which shares a border with Arizona, to investigate an alleged “purchase” related to Nancy Guthrie’s case. But that line of investigation, the official said, “has already been ruled out” by the F.B.I.
 
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I wondered about this -what kind of persons would have their DNA swabbed in the state of Arizona. (I know someone mentioned this in a previous post, but I just wanted to confirm/link.)


Arizona §13-610
(K) If a person is arrested for any offense listed in subsection O, the law enforcement agency shall secure a sufficient sample of buccal cells or other bodily substances for DNA testing and extraction for the purpose of determining identification characteristics. The arresting authority or its designee shall transmit the sample to the department of public safety.
(O) This section applies to persons who are:

  1. Convicted of any felony offense.
Here is the link:

 
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Does anyone know how low a helicopter needs to fly for a signal sniffer?
Could they use a drone?
 
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I said this a few days ago! Makes no sense to me at all. They could’ve removed the camera from inside the doorway and none of it would’ve been on camera! Whether it was one perp or five, it doesn’t make sense for them to get that close to that camera to remove it. Huge mistake IMO, unless the perp did it intentionally for a reason we don’t know…

If they disconnected / cut power to the door camera in advance then they wouldn't have any hesitation going to the front door.
I believe they didn't anticipate that door camera to be working.

Nancy was obviously taken out of the front door of her home, either alive or deceased, because of her blood trail leading away from her front door toward the front driveway area. 😢
 
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Ok that really looks like...that POI picture the forensic artist did. It could be a wild coincidence.
had the same thought, but that's all i will say for now because like you say it's not impossible that it could in fact be a coincidence.

moo
 
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Wifi names can be pretty wild so he might have used a blocker and turned off the wrong wifi ( think someone posted about a court TV episode discussing a neighbors camera being off) or fumbling to determine blue light (no wifi) and green life ( wifi on) or having trouble might be a little color blind too? 🤔

And that neighbor purportedly runs a large gem show in the area. So maybe it was right wifi wrong house?

JMO.
 
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The car LD was driving was a new purchase. When they towed it you could see there was not a normal license plate. If the car turned up evidence that might be a reason for lie detector tests.
Edit: Never mind, I found what LD stands for.
 
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And that neighbor purportedly runs a large gem show in the area. So maybe it was right wifi wrong house?

JMO.
i've seen that theory too. there is no scenario or motive in which this isn't awful, but man theres something just particularly upsetting if it was a wrong house situation... 💔

moo
 
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DNA mismatches:

Washington state woman had two children with not the same DNA as her. Court case attempting to take her children. She was pregnant with third child, and jury members watched the birth. Same results. Not her DNA. Jury actually accused her of being a surrogate. Enter DNA specialist. Woman had two DNA present in her body. She kept her children.

DNA accused man of murder, but he was 100% in prison at time of murder. He had a twin. Identical twin's DNA did not match his either. Prosecutors had no idea. Dropped charge.

Alaska man needed a bone marrow transplant, but he had atypical DNA. Match found in Germany. Surgery to his arm. Four years later the man had completely become the donor's DNA - completely.
 
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I believe we actually don't know what the guy at the front door did between 1:47 and 2:22 or even if it was the same guy inside the home. It probably took the intruder several minutes to actually find a way into the home, remove interior cameras and roam around before finding Nancy which was likely about 2:22 AM. We just don't know what happened between those two times.
Was thinking the 2:12 was the software notification that a person was spotted by a camera . Could be one of the outside cameras we saw removed but the 2:28 disconnect was when pacemaker either lost bluetooth as it updated? was it determined it notified you every minute or every few minutes.
I can leave my bluetooth area and return and my device doesn't know until my phone tries to send data every 5 minutes. This is a cgm not a pacemaker thou. Would 2:28 notification have some wiggle room as being exact time she left her bluetooth area or when her app tried to connect to receive data?
So is that 16 minutes max inside if 2:12 was still an outside camera. I would think inside cameras if she had any..didn't have notifications enabled because she walks around inside and those phone software notifications pings would drive her crazy. and also because the sheriff time line never mentioned any notifications of her walking inside other than garage opening and closing. Only giving us the 2:12 one from a camera..

I don't believe it was the doorcam because I thought sheriff described 1:47 was time the doorcam was disabled meaning destroyed or battery removed ..
But the sheriff was vague at times.
 

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